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37. And therein lies the

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 2, 2017, 06:32 PM

Nov 2017

fallacy of this entire throw-Hillary-under-the-bus fiasco. A Democrat won the Democratic Party primary -- end of story.

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Warren agrees that 2016 Democratic primary was rigged for Clinton [View all] Pugster Nov 2017 OP

Bus is very heavy Not Ruth Nov 2017 #1

I Watched the interview.. busterbrown Nov 2017 #45

I agree, but Im not hopeful. nt joet67 Nov 2017 #94

Guess Elizabeth is not planning to run DURHAM D Nov 2017 #2

Or maybe she is... Elizabeth is still a loyal Democrat in good standing. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #5

Exactly ananda Nov 2017 #17

Clinton fundraised for Democrats. Sanders didn't. Not hard to explain dbackjon Nov 2017 #24

Donna Brazile didn't see it that way. dogman Nov 2017 #53

And we should take her word/opinion? dbackjon Nov 2017 #59

She was head of the DNC. dogman Nov 2017 #62

Again, she is trying to sell books dbackjon Nov 2017 #64

They all are. dogman Nov 2017 #69

Bernie and DNC had similar agreement, which Brazile did not report in her book excerpt emulatorloo Nov 2017 #77

So Bernie didn't scam the system? dogman Nov 2017 #85

How do you even come up with a crazy statement like that? emulatorloo Nov 2017 #87

Did you read Donna's article? dogman Nov 2017 #89

Yes I read the article. DWS was sidelined because of her spindrift ways, and the DNC got saved emulatorloo Nov 2017 #92

I agree with much of what you wrote. dogman Nov 2017 #137

Apparently there were two agreements one in 2015, and one in 2016 after she won nom emulatorloo Nov 2017 #140

Yes, Bernie signed an agreement Rincewind Nov 2017 #124

I don't blame him he did very well on his own w fundraising emulatorloo Nov 2017 #127

I don't care what Donna has to say... agingdem Nov 2017 #60

yup dbackjon Nov 2017 #65

Trump was a democrat too. dogman Nov 2017 #72

Bullshit. Hillary was a Republican when she was a teenager. she's been a Democract .... LuvLoogie Nov 2017 #104

And I was a Democrat when she was a Republican. dogman Nov 2017 #136

Trump is a con-man pandr32 Nov 2017 #128

Check your facts on that. Google is your friend. Zen Democrat Nov 2017 #81

Yes, but I agree with many here, we need to mend fences, & pronto, in advance of the 2018 mid-terms. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #44

Soccer Parents Blackjackdavey Nov 2017 #138

WAYYY too much!! (So sorry to hear about your family tragedy.) InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #139

I was no diehard, kind of preferred Bernie, but as an independent Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #120

unless bernie's actively bitching bdtrppr6 Nov 2017 #130

Bernie is not. The article said he was rather stoic about it. Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #131

That is still open for debate, TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #32

Fair comment, but I don't think Warren's past should be held against her. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #46

Why not? I recall that numerous Democrats tried to make an issue of Hillary being a Goldwater girl TexasTowelie Nov 2017 #80

I am disappointed that Warren would offer validation to this absurd narrative. (eom) StevieM Nov 2017 #98

Like HRC's was - who was a college student when she became a Democrat. ehrnst Nov 2017 #86

I think she is likely to run. Bernie too. I am so disappointed that she would offer validation StevieM Nov 2017 #99

why? DonCoquixote Nov 2017 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #133

Just WOW!!! Et tu Elizabeth?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #3

I think she said it because it's true. mpcamb Nov 2017 #112

I agree... was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #125

I just love the so called progressives comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #4

This is ridiculous. LisaM Nov 2017 #6

I'm glad my Senator answered the question as she saw fit. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #10

I like Elizabeth Warren, but I cannot understand how she can think the primary was rigged. LisaM Nov 2017 #16

I'm sure it won't the last time she's asked. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #20

Whether you agree or disagree with Elizabeth, you have to admire her honesty... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #54

yeah I really hope we can avoid a focus group tested candidate. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #76

You can blaze your own trail to a dead end or quicksand, as well. I don't think she is as LuvLoogie Nov 2017 #110

Brazille, Warren, others are trying to keep Hillary from running again. n/m RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #21

Hasnt Hillary already stated that shes not running again? truthisfreedom Nov 2017 #39

I think she's stated that before this past election as well RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #43

Maybe, but i take Hillary at her word on this. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #61

Yes, and we should respect Hillary's decision to yield the political stage to others. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #57

Yes, Hillary clearly said she will not run again. riversedge Nov 2017 #74

Elizabeth Warren has a long way to go, and she is not going to get there by alienating LuvLoogie Nov 2017 #109

Not the first time she has stepped in it--so to speak pandr32 Nov 2017 #129

Franken....... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #132

At this point maybe Hillary needs to take one for the team Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #7

The Clinton name certainly draws much attention groundloop Nov 2017 #29

Elizabeth has a LOT of credibility with me!! When she speaks, people DO tend to listen. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #66

Donna is the one who's contract was terminated with CNN for giving HRC the questions underthematrix Nov 2017 #8

No, they said that Donna Brazile leaked one question to the campaign LisaM Nov 2017 #18

In the article I read, Donna BRazile did this three times and lied about it over and over again on underthematrix Nov 2017 #22

I think you nailed it. LisaM Nov 2017 #33

She has admitted doing this. CentralMass Nov 2017 #106

This isn't helpful, even if true. It doesn't matter what Warren thinks about that. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #9

If we don't beat Trump in 2020... Pugster Nov 2017 #11

Trump won't make it until 2020. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #23

Republicans won't impeach him Pugster Nov 2017 #27

I think they will. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #40

I don't believe they will The Genealogist Nov 2017 #115

Oh they will Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #122

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #12

Cow? Really? frazzled Nov 2017 #15

In what specific ways were the primaries rigged? frazzled Nov 2017 #13

That is one of my issues dbackjon Nov 2017 #25

Rigging doesn't have to be criminal. thesquanderer Nov 2017 #75

So you are saying Hillary cheated? sheshe2 Nov 2017 #90

Donna Brazile's point is that it was not an even playing field. thesquanderer Nov 2017 #105

Yet if you put your thumb on the scale to change the weight and balance... sheshe2 Nov 2017 #108

Do you like uneven playing field better? thesquanderer Nov 2017 #113

Mikulski Commission and the Fairness Commission joshcryer Nov 2017 #30

This sounds like.. LeonardShelby Nov 2017 #41

The rigging in question was discussed here... thesquanderer Nov 2017 #79

I doubt they were any more rigged than the general election. David__77 Nov 2017 #100

She didn't sugar coat it. She didn't run it by a focus group. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #14

We need Democrats implying false criminality on other Democrats? dbackjon Nov 2017 #26

nobody said anything about criminality. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #47

Rigging means Fraud. Implies Criminality. dbackjon Nov 2017 #48

Or it can mean unethical but not criminal like the book says. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #51

No dbackjon Nov 2017 #58

Even DB, to her credit, admitted there was no criminality involved. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #70

Elizabeth says that the party should support all Democrats. Bernie isn't a Democrat anymore pnwmom Nov 2017 #19

I'm reminded of this quote from a recent Daily Beast post NurseJackie Nov 2017 #28

"He's loyal to a set of ideas" humbled_opinion Nov 2017 #38

Winning elections and defeating Republicans is more important than vanity-votes and lost causes. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #49

I strongly disagree. pnwmom Nov 2017 #52

K & R! n/t billh58 Nov 2017 #42

And therein lies the billh58 Nov 2017 #37

Actually it wasn't the "end of story" AncientGeezer Nov 2017 #56

It was the end billh58 Nov 2017 #73

Hard not to admit the humbled_opinion Nov 2017 #31

What are you talking about? Donna Brazile debunked the false "rigged" and "biased DNC" narrative emulatorloo Nov 2017 #82

Sometimes the truth hurts left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #34

yes. better now than Nov 2 2018 or 2020. Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #50

But that's simply not what Warren said. In fact, in that entire 1:25 video, she never even said... George II Nov 2017 #35

Thank you George. The Hill notoriously likes to stir the pot. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #84

What? melman Nov 2017 #96

That's not the question that the Hill article said Jake Tapper asked her. George II Nov 2017 #111

Yes melman Nov 2017 #119

Couldnt she have just said that it was time to move forward dhol82 Nov 2017 #36

Whatever, if Warren runs, I'm voting for her. HopeAgain Nov 2017 #55

I'm with YOU, though, obviously, it also depends on who else is running. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #63

"Elizabeth would clean the Orange Nazi's clock!! LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #116

I agree we need to combat voter suppression BIGLY, as that squatter in the White House would say... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #123

To bad, it did not work. She lost. bigly BrainMann1 Nov 2017 #67

Haven't we known this??? ileus Nov 2017 #68

Who gives a Fuck?? maxrandb Nov 2017 #71

Good one. mpcamb Nov 2017 #102

Good to know. I disagree with Warren. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #78

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Trojan horse? melman Nov 2017 #88

She was the only Democrat, so it's a moot point. She would easily win against anyone else running. Lil Missy Nov 2017 #91

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Warren is just pissed she didn't run in 2016 when it was her best shot BluegrassDem Nov 2017 #93

I agree with her, essentially. David__77 Nov 2017 #97

I expect Elizabeth will be "clarifying" this shortly. nt SunSeeker Nov 2017 #101

Why can't we get past all this bullshit NoMoreRepugs Nov 2017 #103

It was rigged by the 20th Amendment and the Voting Rights Act BainsBane Nov 2017 #107

Let's Just Argue RobinA Nov 2017 #114

We knew about this at the time. Old news. Get over it. Kablooie Nov 2017 #117

NOT helpful...except for Trump and the GOP, even the alt-right. highplainsdem Nov 2017 #121

Well this is one of those things where we take sides and will never agree yet we may get some of wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #126

Et tu, Senator Warren? Paladin Nov 2017 #134

It's not "throw Hillary under the bus day," it's "let's get our priorities straight day" yurbud Nov 2017 #135

Interesting thread ripcord Nov 2017 #141

I'll just leave this here: Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #142