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In reply to the discussion: Paul Ryan Defends His Call For Prayers After Texas Mass Shooting: Prayer Works [View all]Grammy23
(6,124 posts)73. So which is it?
God has a plan already worked out so therefore he INTENDED for those innocents to be murdered where they sat, in church, worshipping their diety, who at that very moment was planning and allowing for their murderer to shoot them dead.
Or
Pray with all of your might to keep us safe from harm and pestilence and get murdered in the pew anyway.
No matter which you choose to believe, it still amounts to worshipping a diety who allows for a monstrous crime to take your life, even as you are actively worshipping said diety. Oh, yea. 🎼 🎵 Give me some of that Old time religion. 🎶 Its good enough for me. 🎶
And before I get snarky remarks about my cynicism, just spare me. I spent the first 20 years of my life being steeped in the old time religion. Then spent a while being somewhat neutral about it. Then spent 20 more actively questioning it and trying to sort it all out. I came up with NOTHING To convince me that what I was taught was anything more than mans attempt to explain the unexplainable and give some kind of explanation for life's BIG QUESTIONS. No logic to any of it. So while I appreciate the good religion does for some people, it boggles my mind how much of it just generates more questions in my mind. And confuses me more than it makes things clearer.
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Paul Ryan Defends His Call For Prayers After Texas Mass Shooting: Prayer Works [View all]
packman
Nov 2017
OP
Well, his prayers for destroying the "New Deal" and the "Great Society" are coming true.
AJT
Nov 2017
#8
Those prayers are coming true in the sense that "God helps those who help themselves"
FiveGoodMen
Nov 2017
#48
So is this why he and his fellow Congress people could not create a health care system
logosoco
Nov 2017
#9
No one prayed for them NOT to be shot ahead of time so God thought it would be OK.
Kablooie
Nov 2017
#15
This word 'faith,' the way it is so often used, gives me the creepie creeps....
pangaia
Nov 2017
#29
I'm not a religious person, but I do recall the phrase,"God helps those who help themselves".
Laurian
Nov 2017
#30
As if the left and right divide so neatly on secular vs religiosity. Does he include muslims in the
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2017
#31
PRAY Americas #1 in world suicide rate drops? because some mass murder before they suicide.
Sunlei
Nov 2017
#36
If "prayer works" then why didn't Gawd protect his true believers in that Texas church.
Nitram
Nov 2017
#41
We all know what Paul Ryan prays for he told us he's been doing it since college
blueinredohio
Nov 2017
#42
Hey Paul! How about etching the Lord's Prayer on the barrel of every gun produced?
Eyeball_Kid
Nov 2017
#52