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51. Was Devin Kelley pulled over for drunk driving and now the FBI wants to access his phone?

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 04:17 PM

Nov 2017

The drunk driver analogy doesn't even come close to what Kelley did.

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Top DOJ official warns about Texas shooter's encrypted phone [View all] Judi Lynn Nov 2017 OP

What was that about swapping Plucketeer Nov 2017 #1

And this take from across the pond. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #2

All about the framing. Excellent contrast, thanks for posting. harun Nov 2017 #19

Messaging. Its not just what youre selling. Its HOW youre selling it. calimary Nov 2017 #29

odd that they fight to keep gun access for anyone as a constitutional right rurallib Nov 2017 #3

Maybe a seance would help. Nt BootinUp Nov 2017 #4

I'm fine with this. The owner of the phone is dead. Kaleva Nov 2017 #5

Yeah, doesn't really bother me either in this case. Not sure they'll find anything, though. Hoyt Nov 2017 #6

Yeah, it's just for this one time, right? Demit Nov 2017 #14

As long as they get a warrant in future, I'm fine with it. There are lots of white wing armed racist Hoyt Nov 2017 #15

So they don't even have any Probable Cause. Demit Nov 2017 #16

+1 harun Nov 2017 #20

A massacre is probable cause, don't you think? Hoyt Nov 2017 #22

Probable cause of what? Demit Nov 2017 #24

If killing a bunch of people sarisataka Nov 2017 #28

You tell me. Demit Nov 2017 #33

I don't know what sarisataka Nov 2017 #35

We agree on this one. :) Hoyt Nov 2017 #50

Killing 26 people isn't probable cause??? titaniumsalute Nov 2017 #23

Probable cause of what? Demit Nov 2017 #25

Probable cause for legally being able to search the persons belongings titaniumsalute Nov 2017 #31

What do they expect to find on the phone? Demit Nov 2017 #32

Based on your argument then titaniumsalute Nov 2017 #34

You're avoiding my question. What are they looking for that they couldn't find in his other effects? Demit Nov 2017 #37

I agree we are done here. You avoid my questions as well. Bye bye titaniumsalute Nov 2017 #38

Me too WhoWoodaKnew Nov 2017 #11

You're kidding right? You're really okay with the government getting a backdoor to your phone? FailureToCommunicate Nov 2017 #12

Better stock up on guns before the men in black wisk you away to the FEMA camps Kaleva Nov 2017 #40

So let me see if I understand you.... jberryhill Nov 2017 #27

Like the Trump campaign comms picked up on surveillance of a foreign agent Kaleva Nov 2017 #39

This doesn't have anything to do with surveillance of foreign communications jberryhill Nov 2017 #41

Doesn't even have to be dead Kaleva Nov 2017 #42

I gather you no longer wish to discuss the topic at hand jberryhill Nov 2017 #43

Any person under criminal investigation, dead or alive, Kaleva Nov 2017 #45

That's not how it works jberryhill Nov 2017 #46

You are really twisting yourself into a pretzel over this. Kaleva Nov 2017 #47

Not at all jberryhill Nov 2017 #48

Was Devin Kelley pulled over for drunk driving and now the FBI wants to access his phone? Kaleva Nov 2017 #51

Perhaps we could direct our thoughts and prayers at the phone yourmovemonkey Nov 2017 #7

What exactly are they trying to find out? durablend Nov 2017 #18

Did they try a fingerprint unlock? I mean, they've got the body. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2017 #8

Touch ID requires a living finger to supply the print. LudwigPastorius Nov 2017 #9

They only have 48 hours. Flaleftist Nov 2017 #17

They likely already got in the phone but are using this pretext to get their precious back door. PSPS Nov 2017 #10

Exactly. Owl Nov 2017 #13

Bingo harun Nov 2017 #21

It might be acceptable for the manufacturer to get the phone and extract the data for them. brewens Nov 2017 #26

Nope. That's still a slippery-slope. DetlefK Nov 2017 #30

Never a good idea. Strong encryption should be just that. No back doors. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #36

And what if the manufacturer does not want to do that? jberryhill Nov 2017 #49

This is a tough one and I don't know what I think yet... xor Nov 2017 #44