Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Latest Breaking News
In reply to the discussion: Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And Theres Nothing Funny About It [View all]Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)83. that was a reaction to your post.
When you say 'speak for yourself'.. You are denying the collective responsibility we have as men.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
188 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And Theres Nothing Funny About It [View all]
oberliner
Nov 2017
OP
If we believe the women who have accused Trump and Moore we also have to believe this woman.
nycbos
Nov 2017
#3
I would be looking at Creative Response Concepts ... think Swift Boats for Truth .... right now
Botany
Nov 2017
#41
I was hoping Franken would run for President. I am not going to hope anymore.
Le Gaucher
Nov 2017
#62
Not good, but it should not be used to rationalize Roy Moore's assault of women, including grabbing
Hoyt
Nov 2017
#14
The question is -- what is appropriate behavior. I don't think joking about molesting women sends
Hoyt
Nov 2017
#43
There's a WITNESS -- the photographer. We need that person to tell us what happened.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#36
So he said it was part of a skit. And the shadows makes it appear he wasn't really touching her.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#96
He said he didn't remember. And it's unclear from the photo whether he was touching her or hovering
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#140
I'm not making excuses. As I noted, the idea of groping a woman isn't a laughing matter,
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#164
"As to the photo, it was clearly intended to be funny but wasnt. I shouldnt have done it.
lunamagica
Nov 2017
#165
Franken's response does not indicate she is lying. Franken's actions are not like Moore's or Trump's
Hoyt
Nov 2017
#136
What most here are not understanding is the story she is telling about him forcing himself on her
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2017
#137
Agreed. And calling this "groping" tells me this woman is full of shit.
Hassin Bin Sober
Nov 2017
#93
I, on the other hand, doubt anything said by anyone who ever was on Faux. n/t
rzemanfl
Nov 2017
#118
But that doesn't mean it wasn't posed. Even if posed, it was intended to be funny, but it wasn't
lunamagica
Nov 2017
#166
Franken apologizes after groping allegation: 'It was clearly intended to be funny but wasnt'
oberliner
Nov 2017
#106
The picture doesn't appear to show contact. There are shadow marks visible under his hands,
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#45
In the context of a USO tour, it would be impossible to prove Al's intent beyond reasonable doubt,
ancianita
Nov 2017
#90
Franken needs to explain exactly what do shadows have to do with comedy!
populistdriven
Nov 2017
#97
The photo should be apologized for, whether or not he actually touched her. But that isn't clear.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#117
I read it and it's a good statement. But it doesn't say he remembers exactly what transpired.
pnwmom
Nov 2017
#144
If it is in a script and both professional actors are aware of the script, that sounds like consent.
Gore1FL
Nov 2017
#50
I'm sure Fox is going to turn this into an instant crisis to deflect from their Roy Moore problem.
jalan48
Nov 2017
#61
And on and on, interspersed with videos of Bill Clinton hugging Monica Lewinsky.
jalan48
Nov 2017
#82
I was hoping Franken would run for President. I am not going to hope anymore.
Le Gaucher
Nov 2017
#63
People who are claiming the photo was fake or staged will hopefully read that statement
oberliner
Nov 2017
#111
I reckon we'd all do well to trust Franken and let him handle this in his own way.
Denzil_DC
Nov 2017
#159
She is a trump supporting liar, photos and those who were there prove that already.
Eliot Rosewater
Nov 2017
#109
Clearly it was sexual harrassment, and that is no joke. It wasn't/isn't funny.
GatoGordo
Nov 2017
#177