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18. The penalties in place are enough punishement from the NCAA and

Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:54 AM

Aug 2012

the university will be lucky if they can recover from that within the next 10 to 20 years and thats not counting the charges from law enforcement for those involved in it nor the potential civil lawsuits against the university and those who were running the university when it occurred.

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Jerry Sandusky and major Penn State donor 'abused two boys aboard a private plane', claims new witnz [View all] KurtNYC Aug 2012 OP

...... Justice wanted Aug 2012 #1

The witness is just as guilty for ejbr Aug 2012 #2

maybe there are dead witnesses (intimidation) KurtNYC Aug 2012 #6

for the same reason women often hesitate to report rape. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2012 #10

Thank you for speaking the truth... CoffeeCat Aug 2012 #128

it needed to be said BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2012 #143

No, the perpetrator is MeetJohnDoe Aug 2012 #21

Then why does a witness need to tell anyone anything? n/t ejbr Aug 2012 #30

No legal duty to report exboyfil Aug 2012 #34

Because they'd like to put a stop to it Hydra Aug 2012 #35

I'm still thinking this may tie into D A Ray Gricar's DavidL Aug 2012 #166

So far we don't know if he/she ever said anything before. lunatica Aug 2012 #33

Yeah, this is definitely a concern as well. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #48

Perhaps, but perhaps not if the the guy was really powerful. Kablooie Aug 2012 #161

MOnths ago Joe Madden said that there was a donor pedo ring AngryAmish Aug 2012 #3

Some say that organized MeetJohnDoe Aug 2012 #24

At least in the same category Hydra Aug 2012 #37

Money buys the 1% anything they want....even a nation. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #29

I'm starting to believe the Pedo Ring might really exist.. MicaelS Aug 2012 #38

I think that was Mark Madden. drm604 Aug 2012 #39

You are right, I am wrong. AngryAmish Aug 2012 #41

Madden said after Ted Kennedy dies, Doctor_J Aug 2012 #122

I don't know anything about him. drm604 Aug 2012 #125

Can we get a list of donors over the years? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #151

And, so you think the Mobsters and Vegas oddsmakers didn't know this was going on? leveymg Aug 2012 #4

legit sports book just takes a percentage of the pool KurtNYC Aug 2012 #7

How about fixing a game via blackmail? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #22

This bubbling is slowly turning into a full boil. bigworld Aug 2012 #5

They might fine some "upstanding" politicians, eh? riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #15

I believe the claim was that he was a Second Mile donor. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #99

Oodles of money will buy you a lot... KansDem Aug 2012 #8

+1 freshwest Aug 2012 #129

this will kill Penn State football.... Evasporque Aug 2012 #9

The penalties in place are enough punishement from the NCAA and cstanleytech Aug 2012 #18

if the football program benefited directly from Sandusky's boy diddling/rape Evasporque Aug 2012 #45

That's the question now. How deep are the boosters involved in this? AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #51

Its pretty much toast already and they havent even started on the civil lawsuits so any benefit that cstanleytech Aug 2012 #116

The problem isn't with football, MeetJohnDoe Aug 2012 #124

Salem Witch Trials Redux CANDO Aug 2012 #131

News flash! This is about justice for the victims and isn't about you or I really. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #132

Are you serious? CANDO Aug 2012 #150

Totally serious. Just like the Vatican and the pedo priests. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #153

So you want the RCC shut down also? CANDO Aug 2012 #158

Oh, I'd LOVE to see the Roman Catholic church shuttered riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #160

The difference CANDO Aug 2012 #164

Several thousands of rioting fans at the firing of Joe Paterno tells me something a bit different nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #165

i have to say barbtries Aug 2012 #11

The reporter that broke the story last year was on XM Sirius... modestybl Aug 2012 #12

Likely all linked to the Nebraska-Boys Town pedophile ring that had Berlum Aug 2012 #83

Indeed. Larry King, GHW Bush and the Bohemian Grove. BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #118

All the members of this ring should be put against a wall and shot! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #13

correct me if I'm wrong madokie Aug 2012 #31

There is a neurosurgical procedure cosmicone Aug 2012 #69

A bullet to the temple is faster and as effective. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #78

and more honest. hedgehog Aug 2012 #81

Learn something new every day madokie Aug 2012 #88

Sorry, but you are wrong. bitchkitty Aug 2012 #106

I don't believe a word of it madokie Aug 2012 #113

Buy or Don't Buy RobinA Aug 2012 #134

More than half of pedophiles re-offend within a year. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #136

That link doesn't support your statement. bitchkitty Aug 2012 #137

I took the quote directly from the link. And if Sandusky doesn't fit the profile of a re-offender riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #138

Also from that link: bitchkitty Aug 2012 #141

Those stats don't usually include the pedophiles and stranger rapists,their recidivism rates are 52% riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #142

One person saying they have all the facts when I've read so many times for so long madokie Aug 2012 #146

That doesn't mean much, a homeless guy caught urinating is a "sex offender"... Odin2005 Aug 2012 #123

How Dare You RobinA Aug 2012 #133

I felt sick when I read this. AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #14

And yet, up to just a couple weeks ago... SoapBox Aug 2012 #16

I Will Continue RobinA Aug 2012 #135

feel free to continue to defend an institution that covered up these actions.. frylock Aug 2012 #155

Some people dsteve01 Aug 2012 #17

*shrug* I have never seen the appeal in football, baseball, soccer, hockey, golf, tennis or any cstanleytech Aug 2012 #19

Penn State should never play football again Botany Aug 2012 #20

Follow it to DC, maybe Rome unc70 Aug 2012 #36

Sandusky charity successor Arrow has possible link to Bush family LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #93

I have the book written by Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp ... stunning in its information cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #144

Louis Freeh, Bush crime family friend, appointed to "investigate", declines to follow the pedo ring riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #145

i've read it as well.. frylock Aug 2012 #156

Sandusky had his own "charity" for at risk boys and it was funded by Bank of America, KurtNYC Aug 2012 #55

Obviously we need to shut down private planes. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #23

Or at least learn not to conflate LanternWaste Aug 2012 #40

I Think That RobinA Aug 2012 #43

Did you honestly just try to bring the gun control debate into this conversation?! Nostradammit Aug 2012 #42

No, I'm lampooning the stupid kneejerk demands that Penn State never play football again Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #47

Your minimization of the situation is alarming Nostradammit Aug 2012 #49

bullshit Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #50

No, it's not that simple. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #56

I think those responsible should be dealt with Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #59

If the gangrene in your leg is in danger of killing you, guess what? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #61

False metaphor Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #66

Are you just not getting that this goes beyond the football program? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #72

If the name of Penn State will always be connected with child rape Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #74

Frankly, I have never found a good reason why an academic institution tblue37 Aug 2012 #100

The problem is that all too often, it is the managerial structure hedgehog Aug 2012 #85

The "program" let Sandusky use their showers for rapes KurtNYC Aug 2012 #62

So remove the management of the program Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #64

Where would you like to move on to? public Aug 2012 #105

this poster is just an asshole by nature.. frylock Aug 2012 #157

You want to read something amusing? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #159

that thread was fresh in my mind when i replied to you.. frylock Aug 2012 #162

Public humiliation of the truly deserving is a wonder to behold. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #163

How many people have to be exposed as culpable, riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #52

sorry to burst your bubble Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #53

How do you know the cancers have been removed? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #58

so there are more child molesters in the football program? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #60

Did you read the OP? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #63

Severe penalties have already been meted. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #65

Which penalties are you referring to? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #68

I'm pretty cool, but I can't watch the news or read papers for you. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #71

And all those who knew about it and allowed it to continue Nostradammit Aug 2012 #73

According to you, they should be drawn, quartered, and deep fried. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #75

Are you for or against the death penalty? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #76

The answer to that is irrelevant to this discussion. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #77

Is PSU their only possible choice? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #79

No. It should be among their choices, however. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #80

"Horrible and unforgivable" Nostradammit Aug 2012 #82

I see your side. Just disagree. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #84

Peace. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #86

that is what the current FBI investigation is looking into KurtNYC Aug 2012 #67

No, you're just stupidly equating my position with a lack of outrage Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #70

Freeh is a Bush family coverup expert. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #109

Its clearly beyond the football program and now into the administrative office riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #89

Stow your sanctimony Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #90

Struck a nerve. Good. About time somebody did. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #94

You're anthropomorphizing the football program Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #96

My husband's a pro athlete. I live in this bubble and understand it very, very well. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #97

I have a red pony. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #98

I have one red pony, one paint pony and 5 competition horses of my own. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #101

You added a nonsequitur - I followed suit. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #107

I was responding to your final sentence riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #108

the football program was an enabling mechanism for the abuse to continue. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #130

Because the whole school knew.... public Aug 2012 #110

You'll need to cite proof that "everyone knew." Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #112

Disgusting and despicable. Something's terribly systemically wrong at Penn State riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #25

Are You Under RobinA Aug 2012 #44

Oh, I agree 100% In fact, I said the very thing on another thread about this a couple hours ago riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #46

Special place in Hell for 2, please. zzaapp Aug 2012 #26

Good grief. Why not just name that school "Repentance University" and get it over with? MADem Aug 2012 #27

It's not the football--it's the moral/legal/organizational breakdown. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2012 #28

a 'very rich, very powerful man connected with the university.' KamaAina Aug 2012 #32

About damn time. don't forget to investigate that now closed down charity he had notadmblnd Aug 2012 #54

That is already confirmed -- Sandusky used the charity to find all of his known victims. KurtNYC Aug 2012 #91

And the donors were the customers notadmblnd Aug 2012 #95

Waterboard Sandusky Ezlivin Aug 2012 #57

Wonder if the investigation will circle back to the disappearance of Ray Gricar appleannie1 Aug 2012 #87

$1,000,000 question. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #92

I wonder if Corbett will be implicated. drm604 Aug 2012 #102

Very fair question. More than a few DUers have made the connection to Corbett riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #104

Why do you think Corbett slowed the investigation? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #117

Agreed. He facilitated the perpetuation of the crimes. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #120

"...there is a larger link with the HW Bush pedo ring" KansDem Aug 2012 #139

Yup. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #140

That's what I was referring to in my post #93 above LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #149

Thanks for the info! KansDem Aug 2012 #154

I hope this huge ring of elite sickos get busted proud patriot Aug 2012 #103

It's a lot bigger than just Penn State unc70 Aug 2012 #111

Holy. Shit. MadrasT Aug 2012 #114

ohmygod. nc4bo Aug 2012 #115

No words can accurately express the deep feelings of rage nc4bo Aug 2012 #119

Someone postulated that Second Mile was a pederast ring Doctor_J Aug 2012 #121

I suspected that from Day One Frank Cannon Aug 2012 #147

Well, Except RobinA Aug 2012 #148

My guess is the NCAA got wind of this story Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #126

I'm going to be ill now, nt BootinUp Aug 2012 #127

Who hasn't been waiting for this shoe to drop? aquart Aug 2012 #152

This is dark as can be. The Penn State brand is just destroyed. Period. zonkers Aug 2012 #167

sadly pedophiles attempt or plan to abuse every child in their 'abuse range' that crosses their path Sunlei Aug 2012 #168