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SpankMe

(3,652 posts)
61. Not gonna happen
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

There are just not enough Democratic voters in that state to tip the scale - even with high turnout. And, Republicans will support Moore no matter what.

I've seen a number of ads and watched three Doug Jones speeches from beginning to end, and Jones is such a charming and decent fellow that I can't imagine anyone voting Moore over jones.

Every one of Moore's speeches are rambling, incoherent strings of bigotry, stupidity and liberal-bashing with no evidence of critical thinking or vision. Yet, this motherfucker will win.

America is toast. What we need to think about is not saving and fixing all of America, but prepping for a new type of post-Trump America where we create enclaves of goodness and abandon those areas controlled by conservatives. What is inevitable is a condition of hyper-states rights where states - or whole regions of America - will become semi-autonomous, self-governing districts much like Scotland and Northern Ireland are. The idea of "United" states is gone. Forever. We should get used to that new reality and start the new trajectory right now.

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I'm keeping my expectations in check fountainofyouth Dec 2017 #1
I dont trust any poll MontanaMama Dec 2017 #2
Ditto this JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #6
I don't trust any "fox" poll.... getagrip_already Dec 2017 #25
If Fox was rigging the poll, they would still have Moore ahead by a tiny margin ollie10 Dec 2017 #34
On the contrary, MGKrebs Dec 2017 #43
Fox polls used to be trashed because they were pro-Republican. former9thward Dec 2017 #86
Fox News polls are actually very good DrToast Dec 2017 #63
Scientifically most accurate and reliable poll so far. And the latest: Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #73
These comments suggest that this pollster has a likely voter model that is assuming that karynnj Dec 2017 #82
There is this this about Emerson and Morning Consults unusual methodology: Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #83
Good to know nt karynnj Dec 2017 #85
I agree. djg21 Dec 2017 #71
Exactly! Oneironaut Dec 2017 #62
This is a way to get the base out to vote MiniMe Dec 2017 #3
My thoughts exactly. Owl Dec 2017 #9
Plus motivate repubs who may be sitting it out. Merlot Dec 2017 #20
And Bingo! ToxMarz Dec 2017 #45
Bingo! ToxMarz Dec 2017 #44
Nailed it. JHB Dec 2017 #54
It is NOT the only poll! And it is the latest poll from a right leaning outfit. Why so glum?? Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #57
Yep. This is a motivator to get the base out JDC Dec 2017 #80
Great news, if accurate. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #4
And if the GOPee doesn't steal it. sandensea Dec 2017 #53
The Franken Effect? 10 points is way outside the margin of error. How is Faux handling this? Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #58
Unfortunately, this is highly suspect. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #64
Fox News trying to do two things HopeAgain Dec 2017 #5
Plus 1000000 JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #7
Also... Dopers_Greed Dec 2017 #12
Yep...that poll is BS or FOX would never report it as such............ Bengus81 Dec 2017 #18
It's damned sad that a "NEWS" organization participates in political propaganda groundloop Dec 2017 #36
The poll is scientific. Legit by any standard of scientific polling. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #69
Really? Better get those rigged up voting machines installed toot sweet.... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author enough Dec 2017 #11
Paper ballots. Strange number of naysayers here! Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #72
Not really. MGKrebs Dec 2017 #88
Richard Shelby's coming out against Moore might be enough to get Jones elected. Botany Dec 2017 #10
Moore advocates the return of SLAVERY. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #17
You have generations of institutional and social pressure keeping the A.A. vote down and or .... Botany Dec 2017 #22
He probably dreams of 14-year-old slaves to serve his every need. Doodley Dec 2017 #24
NBC's Today Show ... left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #13
Yes. Assume nothing. Fox News is propaganda, pure and simple. They will always lie. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #15
or to suppress Jones votes, by staying home and being complacent about an easy win. I don't see an secondwind Dec 2017 #23
That is what I fear. riversedge Dec 2017 #35
Link? Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #74
Ask and you shall receive left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #75
Massive vote fraud will be in play. GOPers know how to pull this one off. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #14
Like Ive said over and over, We are talking about ALABAMA................ Old Vet Dec 2017 #16
According to the 538 guys . . . MrModerate Dec 2017 #19
Maybe Moore's right, this has some aspect of a referendum on Trump in Trump territory. Go Jones! marble falls Dec 2017 #21
Fox wants energized anti-Moore voters to think they can stay home tomorrow. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #26
+1000 Pachamama Dec 2017 #37
And scare the pedophile-philes into showing up. Dave Starsky Dec 2017 #90
Say what? EricMaundry Dec 2017 #27
I am very skeptical of the polls because I think it is a much more fluid situation, however, if still_one Dec 2017 #28
The only poll that counts is the vote tally. old guy Dec 2017 #29
I have to ask again... Saviolo Dec 2017 #30
Plus not fooled Dec 2017 #33
For one thing, we know he's a buddy of Jeff Sessions FakeNoose Dec 2017 #47
Harry Enten (538) report two more polls due out today. brooklynite Dec 2017 #31
Fake news. Everyone know Moore is leading by a gazillion. louis-t Dec 2017 #32
Considering the source of the poll...yeah, right. C Moon Dec 2017 #38
Lying propaganda by the right wing to try to get Dem voters to stay home tomorrow. nt iluvtennis Dec 2017 #39
Independents+ 29 Jones and 'more moral" Jones +30. Comments are hilarious: Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #67
This is Virginia type numbers... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #40
The Virginia vote happened on paper ballots FakeNoose Dec 2017 #49
Alabama does paper ballots. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #50
Awesome FakeNoose Dec 2017 #52
Every county by Alabama State Code! yallerdawg Dec 2017 #60
I really hope we do the same thing in PA for next year FakeNoose Dec 2017 #84
It's FOX news guys awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #41
Did they use the Sir Humphrey Appleby method? nycbos Dec 2017 #42
Not all publicity is good publicity jamzrockz Dec 2017 #46
Took me weeks to get over the confidence I had in polls packman Dec 2017 #48
These type of stories are meant to make people think they don't need to vote kimbutgar Dec 2017 #51
I certainly hope so. David__77 Dec 2017 #55
Trying to scare Moore voters out to the polls tomorrow I'll bet. Kablooie Dec 2017 #56
Hope it works out like that, but these polls have a lot of seemingly conflicting data. Hoyt Dec 2017 #59
Not gonna happen SpankMe Dec 2017 #61
my money say's bluestarone Dec 2017 #65
Fox news suppressing the dem vote workinclasszero Dec 2017 #66
Bingo dalton99a Dec 2017 #89
It is better for us if they think Moore is going to win karynnj Dec 2017 #68
Democrats attacking scientific polls even if in OUR favor is not scientific. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #70
Remember all the polls that said Hillary had it in the bag? workinclasszero Dec 2017 #76
Remember the final polls just before the election that said the opposite? Some do! Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #77
Why 2016 election polls missed their mark workinclasszero Dec 2017 #79
I was not attacking scientific polls -- I am not sure which ones you even think I question! karynnj Dec 2017 #78
Thanks. Just making the point the Fox poll is more scientific than say landline Emerson College if Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #81
LOVE this kitty!!!! SO expressive! Doitnow Dec 2017 #91
Trying to make Trump look heroic? onenote Dec 2017 #87
FiveThirtyEight's explanation is pretty good Julian Englis Dec 2017 #92
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