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Jerry Sandusky and major Penn State donor 'abused two boys aboard a private plane', claims new witnz [View all] KurtNYC Aug 2012 OP

...... Justice wanted Aug 2012 #1

The witness is just as guilty for ejbr Aug 2012 #2

maybe there are dead witnesses (intimidation) KurtNYC Aug 2012 #6

for the same reason women often hesitate to report rape. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2012 #10

Thank you for speaking the truth... CoffeeCat Aug 2012 #128

it needed to be said BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2012 #143

No, the perpetrator is MeetJohnDoe Aug 2012 #21

Then why does a witness need to tell anyone anything? n/t ejbr Aug 2012 #30

No legal duty to report exboyfil Aug 2012 #34

Because they'd like to put a stop to it Hydra Aug 2012 #35

I'm still thinking this may tie into D A Ray Gricar's DavidL Aug 2012 #166

So far we don't know if he/she ever said anything before. lunatica Aug 2012 #33

Yeah, this is definitely a concern as well. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #48

Perhaps, but perhaps not if the the guy was really powerful. Kablooie Aug 2012 #161

MOnths ago Joe Madden said that there was a donor pedo ring AngryAmish Aug 2012 #3

Some say that organized MeetJohnDoe Aug 2012 #24

At least in the same category Hydra Aug 2012 #37

Money buys the 1% anything they want....even a nation. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #29

I'm starting to believe the Pedo Ring might really exist.. MicaelS Aug 2012 #38

I think that was Mark Madden. drm604 Aug 2012 #39

You are right, I am wrong. AngryAmish Aug 2012 #41

Madden said after Ted Kennedy dies, Doctor_J Aug 2012 #122

I don't know anything about him. drm604 Aug 2012 #125

Can we get a list of donors over the years? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #151

And, so you think the Mobsters and Vegas oddsmakers didn't know this was going on? leveymg Aug 2012 #4

legit sports book just takes a percentage of the pool KurtNYC Aug 2012 #7

How about fixing a game via blackmail? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #22

This bubbling is slowly turning into a full boil. bigworld Aug 2012 #5

They might fine some "upstanding" politicians, eh? riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #15

I believe the claim was that he was a Second Mile donor. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #99

Oodles of money will buy you a lot... KansDem Aug 2012 #8

+1 freshwest Aug 2012 #129

this will kill Penn State football.... Evasporque Aug 2012 #9

The penalties in place are enough punishement from the NCAA and cstanleytech Aug 2012 #18

if the football program benefited directly from Sandusky's boy diddling/rape Evasporque Aug 2012 #45

That's the question now. How deep are the boosters involved in this? AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #51

Its pretty much toast already and they havent even started on the civil lawsuits so any benefit that cstanleytech Aug 2012 #116

The problem isn't with football, MeetJohnDoe Aug 2012 #124

Salem Witch Trials Redux CANDO Aug 2012 #131

News flash! This is about justice for the victims and isn't about you or I really. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #132

Are you serious? CANDO Aug 2012 #150

Totally serious. Just like the Vatican and the pedo priests. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #153

So you want the RCC shut down also? CANDO Aug 2012 #158

Oh, I'd LOVE to see the Roman Catholic church shuttered riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #160

The difference CANDO Aug 2012 #164

Several thousands of rioting fans at the firing of Joe Paterno tells me something a bit different nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #165

i have to say barbtries Aug 2012 #11

The reporter that broke the story last year was on XM Sirius... modestybl Aug 2012 #12

Likely all linked to the Nebraska-Boys Town pedophile ring that had Berlum Aug 2012 #83

Indeed. Larry King, GHW Bush and the Bohemian Grove. BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #118

All the members of this ring should be put against a wall and shot! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #13

correct me if I'm wrong madokie Aug 2012 #31

There is a neurosurgical procedure cosmicone Aug 2012 #69

A bullet to the temple is faster and as effective. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #78

and more honest. hedgehog Aug 2012 #81

Learn something new every day madokie Aug 2012 #88

Sorry, but you are wrong. bitchkitty Aug 2012 #106

I don't believe a word of it madokie Aug 2012 #113

Buy or Don't Buy RobinA Aug 2012 #134

More than half of pedophiles re-offend within a year. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #136

That link doesn't support your statement. bitchkitty Aug 2012 #137

I took the quote directly from the link. And if Sandusky doesn't fit the profile of a re-offender riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #138

Also from that link: bitchkitty Aug 2012 #141

Those stats don't usually include the pedophiles and stranger rapists,their recidivism rates are 52% riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #142

One person saying they have all the facts when I've read so many times for so long madokie Aug 2012 #146

That doesn't mean much, a homeless guy caught urinating is a "sex offender"... Odin2005 Aug 2012 #123

How Dare You RobinA Aug 2012 #133

I felt sick when I read this. AngryOldDem Aug 2012 #14

And yet, up to just a couple weeks ago... SoapBox Aug 2012 #16

I Will Continue RobinA Aug 2012 #135

feel free to continue to defend an institution that covered up these actions.. frylock Aug 2012 #155

Some people dsteve01 Aug 2012 #17

*shrug* I have never seen the appeal in football, baseball, soccer, hockey, golf, tennis or any cstanleytech Aug 2012 #19

Penn State should never play football again Botany Aug 2012 #20

Follow it to DC, maybe Rome unc70 Aug 2012 #36

Sandusky charity successor Arrow has possible link to Bush family LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #93

I have the book written by Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp ... stunning in its information cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #144

Louis Freeh, Bush crime family friend, appointed to "investigate", declines to follow the pedo ring riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #145

i've read it as well.. frylock Aug 2012 #156

Sandusky had his own "charity" for at risk boys and it was funded by Bank of America, KurtNYC Aug 2012 #55

Obviously we need to shut down private planes. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #23

Or at least learn not to conflate LanternWaste Aug 2012 #40

I Think That RobinA Aug 2012 #43

Did you honestly just try to bring the gun control debate into this conversation?! Nostradammit Aug 2012 #42

No, I'm lampooning the stupid kneejerk demands that Penn State never play football again Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #47

Your minimization of the situation is alarming Nostradammit Aug 2012 #49

bullshit Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #50

No, it's not that simple. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #56

I think those responsible should be dealt with Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #59

If the gangrene in your leg is in danger of killing you, guess what? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #61

False metaphor Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #66

Are you just not getting that this goes beyond the football program? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #72

If the name of Penn State will always be connected with child rape Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #74

Frankly, I have never found a good reason why an academic institution tblue37 Aug 2012 #100

The problem is that all too often, it is the managerial structure hedgehog Aug 2012 #85

The "program" let Sandusky use their showers for rapes KurtNYC Aug 2012 #62

So remove the management of the program Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #64

Where would you like to move on to? public Aug 2012 #105

this poster is just an asshole by nature.. frylock Aug 2012 #157

You want to read something amusing? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #159

that thread was fresh in my mind when i replied to you.. frylock Aug 2012 #162

Public humiliation of the truly deserving is a wonder to behold. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #163

How many people have to be exposed as culpable, riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #52

sorry to burst your bubble Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #53

How do you know the cancers have been removed? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #58

so there are more child molesters in the football program? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #60

Did you read the OP? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #63

Severe penalties have already been meted. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #65

Which penalties are you referring to? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #68

I'm pretty cool, but I can't watch the news or read papers for you. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #71

And all those who knew about it and allowed it to continue Nostradammit Aug 2012 #73

According to you, they should be drawn, quartered, and deep fried. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #75

Are you for or against the death penalty? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #76

The answer to that is irrelevant to this discussion. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #77

Is PSU their only possible choice? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #79

No. It should be among their choices, however. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #80

"Horrible and unforgivable" Nostradammit Aug 2012 #82

I see your side. Just disagree. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #84

Peace. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #86

that is what the current FBI investigation is looking into KurtNYC Aug 2012 #67

No, you're just stupidly equating my position with a lack of outrage Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #70

Freeh is a Bush family coverup expert. Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #109

Its clearly beyond the football program and now into the administrative office riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #89

Stow your sanctimony Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #90

Struck a nerve. Good. About time somebody did. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #94

You're anthropomorphizing the football program Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #96

My husband's a pro athlete. I live in this bubble and understand it very, very well. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #97

I have a red pony. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #98

I have one red pony, one paint pony and 5 competition horses of my own. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #101

You added a nonsequitur - I followed suit. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #107

I was responding to your final sentence riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #108

the football program was an enabling mechanism for the abuse to continue. LanternWaste Aug 2012 #130

Because the whole school knew.... public Aug 2012 #110

You'll need to cite proof that "everyone knew." Dreamer Tatum Aug 2012 #112

Disgusting and despicable. Something's terribly systemically wrong at Penn State riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #25

Are You Under RobinA Aug 2012 #44

Oh, I agree 100% In fact, I said the very thing on another thread about this a couple hours ago riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #46

Special place in Hell for 2, please. zzaapp Aug 2012 #26

Good grief. Why not just name that school "Repentance University" and get it over with? MADem Aug 2012 #27

It's not the football--it's the moral/legal/organizational breakdown. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2012 #28

a 'very rich, very powerful man connected with the university.' KamaAina Aug 2012 #32

About damn time. don't forget to investigate that now closed down charity he had notadmblnd Aug 2012 #54

That is already confirmed -- Sandusky used the charity to find all of his known victims. KurtNYC Aug 2012 #91

And the donors were the customers notadmblnd Aug 2012 #95

Waterboard Sandusky Ezlivin Aug 2012 #57

Wonder if the investigation will circle back to the disappearance of Ray Gricar appleannie1 Aug 2012 #87

$1,000,000 question. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #92

I wonder if Corbett will be implicated. drm604 Aug 2012 #102

Very fair question. More than a few DUers have made the connection to Corbett riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #104

Why do you think Corbett slowed the investigation? Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #117

Agreed. He facilitated the perpetuation of the crimes. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #120

"...there is a larger link with the HW Bush pedo ring" KansDem Aug 2012 #139

Yup. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #140

That's what I was referring to in my post #93 above LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #149

Thanks for the info! KansDem Aug 2012 #154

I hope this huge ring of elite sickos get busted proud patriot Aug 2012 #103

It's a lot bigger than just Penn State unc70 Aug 2012 #111

Holy. Shit. MadrasT Aug 2012 #114

ohmygod. nc4bo Aug 2012 #115

No words can accurately express the deep feelings of rage nc4bo Aug 2012 #119

Someone postulated that Second Mile was a pederast ring Doctor_J Aug 2012 #121

I suspected that from Day One Frank Cannon Aug 2012 #147

Well, Except RobinA Aug 2012 #148

My guess is the NCAA got wind of this story Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #126

I'm going to be ill now, nt BootinUp Aug 2012 #127

Who hasn't been waiting for this shoe to drop? aquart Aug 2012 #152

This is dark as can be. The Penn State brand is just destroyed. Period. zonkers Aug 2012 #167

sadly pedophiles attempt or plan to abuse every child in their 'abuse range' that crosses their path Sunlei Aug 2012 #168