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45. Then you should know an investigation going for over a year and a half will use a grand jury from ti

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And since you are a lawyer, is it illegal to tell a bank that you have millions of dollars in donations and promises of donations when you only have between 6-7 hundred thousand?

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Grand jury empaneled in Burlington College case [View all] George II Jan 2018 OP

Interesting. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #1

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #2

Local journalism at its best! mcar Jan 2018 #3

Damn! Not a good development at all. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #4

Yep. There is little tolerance for "flaws" in candidates now. ehrnst Jan 2018 #13

Well in the future if a candidate is going to run basically being squeaky clean, than they PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #15

I understand she told him she didn't want him to run for POTUS ehrnst Jan 2018 #18

Yes, you're right. That certainly makes sense now that I think about it... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #19

... ehrnst Jan 2018 #20

I didn't know that. But this brings up an old lesson that she should PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #21

"I made it clear I didn't want him to run," ehrnst Jan 2018 #22

Welcome Back to DU! nt RandiFan1290 Jan 2018 #82

Respectfully disagree, Pragmatic. Jane probably did understand Hortensis Jan 2018 #84

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #109

Thank you. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #177

Excellent reply! Truthful. Accurate. Clearly stated! NurseJackie Jan 2018 #188

So she's guilty then eh? KPN Jan 2018 #72

Who said that? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #86

Really? KPN Jan 2018 #110

Yes, really. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #111

You seem to have missed this post ehrnst Jan 2018 #117

No, I saw that yesterday. What's your point? KPN Jan 2018 #123

In the end the real question is whether her actions were legal or not. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #134

Did that GOP attorney "orchestrate" a federal judge to impanel a grand jury? ehrnst Jan 2018 #136

Yes. I've already addressed this in another post here. No lawsuit involved. KPN Jan 2018 #149

Again with the name calling. ehrnst Jan 2018 #156

My Oh MY Me. Jan 2018 #5

It is not a very complicated case so if they are reporting on it now then we should know soon what PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #6

Thanks Me. Jan 2018 #7

I think Grand Juries only meet once a week, and with the holidays it probably can take time. George II Jan 2018 #10

every dem who could be a frontrunner..... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #8

Who says this is a hit squad? murielm99 Jan 2018 #11

there is something there to be sure... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #24

Nonsense -- that's the same kind of "Hillary is guilty on Benghazi" whathehell Jan 2018 #29

He's not the subject of the Grand Jury George II Jan 2018 #33

But being a liberal/progressive, if his wife is guilty of anything he will be also by association groundloop Jan 2018 #63

It's his wife..Similar "gotcha" for the Bernie haters. n/t whathehell Jan 2018 #91

Not seeing how a grand jury is a "gotcha" ehrnst Jan 2018 #107

You win the internet for today. There will not be a response however. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #178

It's the law shenmue Jan 2018 #148

It's the Sanders.. whathehell Jan 2018 #152

And "the emails!" that gripped the left. ehrnst Jan 2018 #87

This November. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #89

That's as sensible as saying the Benghazi Investigations whathehell Jan 2018 #26

Was there a grand jury convened for Benghazi? ehrnst Jan 2018 #90

Congressional Investigations... whathehell Jan 2018 #99

Evading the question. Must have hit a nerve. ehrnst Jan 2018 #108

Nice try, dear, but since prosecutorial "agendas" aren't unknown either, whathehell Jan 2018 #124

I see you have a lot of evidence to back up your claim. ehrnst Jan 2018 #161

LOL..You don't get it, do you? whathehell Jan 2018 #173

EXACTLY what the right is saying about Russia. Only us liberals care. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #179

WhatTheHell, YOOOGE difference between congressional Hortensis Jan 2018 #116

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #121

Um, yeah, I know there's a difference, but guess what? whathehell Jan 2018 #131

True. All efforts of man fail of perfection because Hortensis Jan 2018 #143

Yes whathehell Jan 2018 #151

I wanted Warren, and then Sanders to be good choices. Hortensis Jan 2018 #158

For a great many of us, Sanders was a great candidate, but if you whathehell Jan 2018 #166

Another "I know you are but what am I?" evasion of an ehrnst Jan 2018 #162

Lol. I stepped aside. Hortensis Jan 2018 #169

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #172

Red herring GaryCnf Jan 2018 #32

Not really, they could have handed down sealed indictments like Mueller's GJ did with Manafort.... George II Jan 2018 #35

Do you have even the foggiest idea GaryCnf Jan 2018 #38

Oh, like Benghazi? KPN Jan 2018 #73

There was a grand Jury convened for the Benghazi charges? ehrnst Jan 2018 #92

Oh come on. This is based in the same old KPN Jan 2018 #112

You seem to want to avoid talking about the difference between a grand jury and ehrnst Jan 2018 #115

Why would I be worried about that? It's irrelevant to my point. KPN Jan 2018 #118

Because you keep desperately trying to avoid/change the point when asked.... ehrnst Jan 2018 #119

Thanks for the psychology lesson. KPN Jan 2018 #125

You're welcome ehrnst Jan 2018 #130

Oh my! KPN Jan 2018 #132

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #139

Funny. KPN Jan 2018 #150

You're welcome. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #155

No, I think what's going on, is that we're not all salivating at the idea whathehell Jan 2018 #138

I think perhaps you are projecting ehrnst Jan 2018 #140

I think, perhaps, you are.. whathehell Jan 2018 #157

"I know you are but what am I?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #159

It's more like grand hypocrisy being exposed. nt R B Garr Jan 2018 #213

Exactly...I'll never understand the hatred of Bernie whathehell Jan 2018 #135

By the federal judge that empaneled the grand jury? ehrnst Jan 2018 #141

Who said anything about a federal judge hating Bernie? KPN Jan 2018 #146

Only the judge didn't "empanel" a Grand Jury. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #183

That's what the witness being questioned said, though. Jeff Weaver interjected R B Garr Jan 2018 #211

If nothing else, it's subjective. KPN Jan 2018 #144

..and it''s not the sentiment of the majority, imo whathehell Jan 2018 #147

The existence of a grand jury is not subjective. ehrnst Jan 2018 #160

No, neither is the existence of the earth. KPN Jan 2018 #185

If you think long time liberals, democratic party supporters who have spent blood, sweat, tears Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #180

Ummm ... since you chimed in, allow me. KPN Jan 2018 #224

Few ... really? KPN Jan 2018 #225

Not Exactly Me. Jan 2018 #12

Sanders hasn't been subject to the same negative treatment as Democratic frontrunners ehrnst Jan 2018 #16

that was because... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #23

correct Skittles Jan 2018 #25

Plain as the nose on one's face BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #194

Excellent point, ehrnst. Cha Jan 2018 #67

No it's not melman Jan 2018 #68

I second that. KPN Jan 2018 #75

Yes it is ehrnst Jan 2018 #85

Is. betsuni Jan 2018 #94

Yes it is ! stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #228

agreed....good point BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #195

.. Cha Jan 2018 #198

+1000 stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #227

.. Cha Jan 2018 #236

I'm going to reiterate my Cha Jan 2018 #69

And I'm going to reiterate melman's KPN Jan 2018 #76

Yes it is (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #88

you seem very desperate . stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #229

Why do you say that? KPN Jan 2018 #230

And I triple thumbs it up Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #181

.. Cha Jan 2018 #196

That sounds reasonable to me. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #70

Very reasonable.. Reality.. Cha Jan 2018 #77

Do you have any idea what you are talking about.? KPN Jan 2018 #74

Yes, I do have an idea of what I am talking about - as a Democratic Presidential Candidate ehrnst Jan 2018 #93

I've always known this to be true. You've been very clear... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #95

I see more anxiety than contempt in those posts. ehrnst Jan 2018 #98

Now that you mention it... YES!! :-D Like a long-tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #103

LOL!!! (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #104

Hah! NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #187

Your sight isn't very good then. Has nothing to do with anxiety. KPN Jan 2018 #113

Facts are facts, and no one is above the law. ehrnst Jan 2018 #120

Yes, facts are facts. KPN Jan 2018 #126

Well perhaps you have learned something about the justice system ehrnst Jan 2018 #127

Don't be silly. KPN Jan 2018 #129

True ehrnst Jan 2018 #133

OK. I'll address your point. KPN Jan 2018 #142

I think that your passion is getting in the way of answering why ehrnst Jan 2018 #145

Too silly. You can have the last word. KPN Jan 2018 #153

Better than continuing ehrnst Jan 2018 #154

This post didn't age well. VTDigger recanted the "empaneled" claim -it didn't happen. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #205

So in other words... NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #189

No. Was initiated politically. KPN Jan 2018 #201

The guys name is Brady Toensing. Son of Victoria Toensing and Joe DeGenova. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #184

Thanks for the name and chiming in. KPN Jan 2018 #203

Wouldnt it be great if the Sanders used this opportunity R B Garr Jan 2018 #207

I've notice that almost every single reply you make has a snide insult BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #199

Probably true. I wasn't always this way, KPN Jan 2018 #204

The challenge, as I see it is to continue voicing your opinon while maintaining humanity. BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #206

Been there, done that ... for too long. KPN Jan 2018 #209

This is true. betsuni Jan 2018 #78

Exactly NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #186

I believe this investigation started well before the trump admin took office. 7962 Jan 2018 #27

Thanks for the update. murielm99 Jan 2018 #9

That's very interesting. Looks like VT Digger is on it. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #14

Thanks for the update from the VT Digger. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #17

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #28

It doesn't say the grand jury was done in October. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #31

The grand jury sits for 18 months GaryCnf Jan 2018 #34

It seems wishful thinking on your part to think this case is over. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #37

OR it seems I've practiced in federal court GaryCnf Jan 2018 #43

Then you should know an investigation going for over a year and a half will use a grand jury from ti PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #45

*Crickets* lunamagica Jan 2018 #79

..... (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #97

It appears that the grand jury GaryCnf Jan 2018 #164

How do you know that? If you truly are a lawyer like you say you are, you would know PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #165

(!) "VTDigger pushing its right wing anti-Sanders agenda," Hortensis Jan 2018 #137

vtdigger is anything BUT "right wing". George II Jan 2018 #36

Yea, it's rated "leans left" GaryCnf Jan 2018 #41

Can you point out something they got wrong? PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #42

Other than the GaryCnf Jan 2018 #44

Can you point out something they have gotten wrong? PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #47

You got a simple answer GaryCnf Jan 2018 #53

So in other words you can't point to something they got wrong. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #54

Snore GaryCnf Jan 2018 #57

You would think a lawyer could make an argument. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #59

Ha! You'd think! :-D NurseJackie Jan 2018 #96

LOL!!! (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #106

so what year did you pass the bar? snooper2 Jan 2018 #114

They report on events that occur in Vermont, and present the facts they come across. That... George II Jan 2018 #100

Reporting that there is a grand jury is a "smear?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jan 2018 #128

Why are you being so negative? George II Jan 2018 #48

No, that part is correct GaryCnf Jan 2018 #58

The Burlington Free Press has also reported on this: George II Jan 2018 #175

Wrong. Grand juries often only meet for a limited time each week, pnwmom Jan 2018 #46

Google law degrees GaryCnf Jan 2018 #55

I was on a GJ for 18 months. I suspect different localities have different practices, pnwmom Jan 2018 #61

Is that where you got yours too? OilemFirchen Jan 2018 #64

LOL... Okay. Stand and Fight Jan 2018 #49

I don't think VTDigger has a right wing anti-Sanders agenda. lapucelle Jan 2018 #51

News stories on Vermont's senator GaryCnf Jan 2018 #56

Exactly. Publishing accurate news stories of local interest lapucelle Jan 2018 #60

You should take your own advice about getting past the primaries. This FBI R B Garr Jan 2018 #210

VT Digger? Right wing? LOL. ehrnst Jan 2018 #102

If there's a trial, the timing could hardly be worse, with Bernie's Senate re-election in November. pnwmom Jan 2018 #30

They'd probably set it back, right? Anyway, he won by 71% Hortensis Jan 2018 #167

Wow. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #39

This will become a case zentrum Jan 2018 #40

He would be the first to deny being "one of our guys." Hortensis Jan 2018 #168

Don't you mean another case? KPN Jan 2018 #200

Yes. zentrum Jan 2018 #202

Thanks for the update George. Wwcd Jan 2018 #50

K&R betsuni Jan 2018 #52

K&R Gothmog Jan 2018 #62

K&R Jamaal510 Jan 2018 #65

Thank you, George Cha Jan 2018 #66

Thanks for the update, George. nt brer cat Jan 2018 #71

K&R. Thanks, George lunamagica Jan 2018 #80

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #81

"Do not oppose the DNC's pre-selected candidate" CONSPIRACY!!!!11111!!!!! betsuni Jan 2018 #83

Apparently, All Progressives Aren't That Pure dlk Jan 2018 #101

Many here on DU said that HRC used "very bad judgement" in doing something that ehrnst Jan 2018 #122

And no one yet has mentioned how this may affect family woodshop Mayoral aspirations? n/t BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #163

Sanders Family Disputes Report of Escalating Burlington College Probe Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #170

Oh, well that settles it then! NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #191

Don't let the source updating (correcting) their story get in your way! Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #193

UPDATED: Grand jury takes sworn testimony in Burlington College case. January 8, 2017, at 6:58 a.m Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #171

Why is the distinction important? lapucelle Jan 2018 #208

This reply says it better than I can Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #212

Yes, lapucelle Jan 2018 #214

Why jump the gun on speculation Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #215

Given that there's a document headed "US Department of Justice, District of Vermont lapucelle Jan 2018 #216

Questioning ONE person that refused to talk to the FBI Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #217

Records and documents were subpoenaed by a grand jury lapucelle Jan 2018 #218

I'll wait for the official results Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #219

"different motivations" They state what the investigation is about. R B Garr Jan 2018 #220

So was Benghazi, a foundation, etc... Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #221

So nice to see the heartwarming understanding and sympatico with R B Garr Jan 2018 #223

I voted for Hillary Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #237

Great! So nice to see the concern for all the lies told about the Clintons. R B Garr Jan 2018 #238

Benghazi ! lol stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #231

I don't like Bernie very much but this investigation strikes me as bogus. StevieM Jan 2018 #174

They're NOT investigating Bernie Sanders, they're investigating the circumstances.. George II Jan 2018 #176

George why don't you update the title and story since the source did? Omaha Steve Jan 2018 #182

"The FBI is a partisan organization" NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #190

Yeah, except I am saying it accurately while he is saying it inaccurately. StevieM Jan 2018 #192

Yes, that RW talking point isn't well masked. BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #197

Where have we heard that before? Right here one DU. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #222

It's truly heartwarming to see this sudden about-face regarding the Clintons! R B Garr Jan 2018 #226

About face by whom? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #235

I love this! I must be mistaken about all the scorn heaped on the Clintons, R B Garr Jan 2018 #239

. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #241

Oh, the same for you, absolutely. It's wonderful to see that the R B Garr Jan 2018 #242

K&R stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #232

To me this matters, because Jane Sanders supposedly was the tax preparer in her family LisaM Jan 2018 #233

Bazinga! My thought exactly. Thanks. George II Jan 2018 #234

Exactly! No more double standards, especially if criticism of others is the R B Garr Jan 2018 #240