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18. Get rid of the cars. The Bay Area's commute is getting worse and worse, and LA is impossible.

Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:20 PM

Jan 2018

Good ole San Mateo didn't want BART to go through its county at the start, and finally after 40 plus years they are going to extend BART into San Jose.

LA is just a basket case.

The extra car pool lane was a complete failure on the 405.

You say California isn't Europe or China. Then how about compared to the East Coast. California is pathetic.

San Francisco in the 70's was way ahead of the curve with mass transit, now because of unaffordable housing prices people our being forced out to Lodi, Tracy, Stockton, and commute in from the South Bay as far as Hollister, Los Banos, etc.

LA got screwed by GM and the car companies which paid of politicians to initiate the systemic dismantling of any mass transit system decades ago

I live in the Bay Area, but travel down to LA several times a year, and my observation is that new lanes do not help the commute problem. It is a Band-Aid. Mass transit is where you need to go. We are already decades behind. It is time

It took 35 years to build the interstate highway system.

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Cost climbs by $2.8 billion for California bullet train [View all] alp227 Jan 2018 OP

the original concept was LA to SF and no local svc to the valley. hi speed to compete with msongs Jan 2018 #1

It could never compete with air travel. tinrobot Jan 2018 #23

what would it cost to add a lane on I-5 lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #2

we have enough lanes on our freeways. It is way past due that we do what Europe, China, Japan and still_one Jan 2018 #8

The Western US is not Europe and China lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #16

Get rid of the cars. The Bay Area's commute is getting worse and worse, and LA is impossible. still_one Jan 2018 #18

$4 million to $6 million per mile in rural and suburban areas... LanternWaste Jan 2018 #14

allowing for cost overruns lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #15

Initial capital investment only, so far. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #17

This country should have a network of these trains already. The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #3

Hear, hear! BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #4

Well, depends on what you mean by 'value' ... generation of compliant flag-waving jarhead types ... mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #5

Yes it should have. still_one Jan 2018 #9

I think that public transit projects should be exempt from environemtnal regs AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #6

...says someone who's never had to do an environmental analysis. brooklynite Jan 2018 #11

That's a fucking terrible idea. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #12

You must not live near any mass transit lines? nt EarthFirst Jan 2018 #21

The sad thing is, by the time it is built.... yuiyoshida Jan 2018 #7

I don't think so, but regardless, it is for future generations. When the interstate highway system still_one Jan 2018 #10

So, I bet we get ours done in Texas first- Connecting Houston to Dallas snooper2 Jan 2018 #13

Many Central Valley farmers want that money spent on environmentally destructive water projects... hunter Jan 2018 #19

I rode on the SMART train for the first time today Downtown Hound Jan 2018 #20

So where's the money going to come from? ansible Jan 2018 #22

The project is dead ripcord Jan 2018 #24