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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton Chose to Shield a Top Adviser Accused of Harassment in 2008 [View all]Yavin4
(37,182 posts)90. Is this never ending Hillary hate a not to subtle message to all female politicians?
Don't you dare run for president because if you do, the negative campaigning will never cease. Even if you lose, it will continue.
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Hillary Clinton Chose to Shield a Top Adviser Accused of Harassment in 2008 [View all]
Jose Garcia
Jan 2018
OP
Yeah, because women like getting harassed and then transferred as a result.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#38
We obviously don't know all the details of the situation, so none of us can speculate about "why".
George II
Jan 2018
#95
We know enough. He got to keep his job and she got transferred. Then he got to do it again.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#105
We don't know why he got to keep his job and she got transferred. It may have been....
George II
Jan 2018
#123
We know, from the reporting, the Chief of Operations wanted him fired and was overruled.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#129
No I didn't. But if anything we should want to know why he kept his job, not how.
George II
Jan 2018
#143
You mean like when Latina women wanted a deputy political directed fired for covering up
ehrnst
Jan 2018
#299
So, is this something that should disqualify a candidate from running as a Democrat?
ehrnst
Jan 2018
#335
Um... how is that "continuing to keep his job" through 2014 when the campaign was over in 2008?
ehrnst
Jan 2018
#284
Total BS...he was sent for counseling which was not nothing...and a big who cares. Hillary is a
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#224
This woman said she felt like she was being blamed from the Sanders' campaign:
R B Garr
Jan 2018
#243
My first reaction, as well. Classic tactic that often derails the complaining woman's
Ms. Toad
Jan 2018
#160
The article cited in the original post is about the Clinton campaign and does not mention Sanders.
Bluepinky
Jan 2018
#270
You should take your own advice. If you have hangups about individual posters,
R B Garr
Jan 2018
#282
You DO understand that calling someone out on re-fighting the primaries
LiberalLovinLug
Jan 2018
#320
It was the 2008 campaign, almost ten years ago. The harasser was disciplined....
George II
Jan 2018
#289
Looks to me like she gave him a pass for it, & then fired him when the counseling didn't work...
Honeycombe8
Jan 2018
#178
It's unbelievable the lengths some will go to defend those who minimize sexual harassment.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2018
#213
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST are we really going to minimize this shit with special pleading just because
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#20
Paid what price? He brushed ot off & it was never mentioned again....but Al Franken ..
Wwcd
Jan 2018
#64
A candidate did "write something like that", and it wasn't trump. I'd refresh your recall, but...
George II
Jan 2018
#199
Who ignored the advice of the Chief of Staff that the pervert should be fired?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#188
Hillary Clinton has issued a two-part tweet (because of the 140 character limit)...
George II
Jan 2018
#195
You have zero evidence Sanders intervened personally or moved anyone.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#261
Is she alleging Sanders personally intervened to save the abuser's job?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#267
Yes, you have sufficiently narrowed the scope to ignore what happened in 2008
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#166
I maintain, at my company, he'd have been dropped out the airlock. Even back in 2008.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#348
Yes, it's what they do... we should have ZERO tolerance for sexual harassment.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2018
#211
I think its time to raise a big stink about Rape Fantasies & why the writer is still hailed above al
Wwcd
Jan 2018
#62
Did sanders intervene to keep to sexual abuser and transfer the victim?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#247
Doesn't it seem somehow wrong to retain the abuser, and move the victim?
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#50
"he rubbed her shoulders and kissed her on the forehead and sent her unwanted emails"
left-of-center2012
Jan 2018
#110
Just curious. How do you feel about women being required to relocate seats on a plane...
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#78
It's news, but I find it amusing that the NY Times puts it on the same front page as their story
still_one
Jan 2018
#82
No offense but tl;dr. Not interested in some Gish Gallop over how The NYT is fake news.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#85
Is it the full story? I am not sure, that is my point, because the Times has been known to
still_one
Jan 2018
#142
Umm. Did you read the article? He was rehired in 2016 and did it again while working on the campaign
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#92
Correct The Record didn't exist until 2015 so there seems to be some discrepancy on the dates.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#192
Well in this case "HR" recommended firing and the CEO protected a serial abuser.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#198
Why? The reporting on the Mueller attempt firing by Shitler...is that something you have faith in??
Fred Sanders
Jan 2018
#32
Gee, someone with a history of sexual harassment gets hired again and harasses again?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#31
This is just the both sides do it BS. The real story is about Steve Wynn rethug money bag.
kydo
Jan 2018
#13
OR it's also a story, granted of smaller magnitude based on the accusations.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#21
Liberals wait For full facts before the outrage. But, free country. Tempest in a Foxxx teapot.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2018
#33
The story doesn't say that the victim was moved away from her co-workers and friends.
lapucelle
Jan 2018
#305
People are not allowed to make up facts in the service of their narratives. N/T
lapucelle
Jan 2018
#319
She may have wanted to go. I wanted out of my department after having a guy keep making the moves on
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#345
Don't tell me what to do or not to do. Save your lectures for Maggie Haberman.
lapucelle
Jan 2018
#318
They had suggestive emails sent in the middle of the night by a married man.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#60
How about who blocked the firing recommended by the investigating party which then ...
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#81
If the Republican was out of politics, not running for anything? Say, Chris Christie?
Demit
Jan 2018
#91
Is this the first scandal where HR actually took action in a complaint- wasnt burying the story
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#89
It's a pretty glaring example of HR recommending firing, management overruling HR...
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#115
Its a rare example because the man actually faced consequences is what it is. Thats what is
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#131
Is this never ending Hillary hate a not to subtle message to all female politicians?
Yavin4
Jan 2018
#90
I don't think so, really. Hillary Clinton is sui generis. She has been the special
Demit
Jan 2018
#93
Without Further Details, This Incident From 10 Years Ago Smells Like "Bothsiderism"
dlk
Jan 2018
#103
So Hillary is at fault for Brock too? Interesting. If she believed the punishment from HR was
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#125
"he rubbed her shoulders and kissed her on the forehead and sent her unwanted emails"
left-of-center2012
Jan 2018
#112
The "waah, he did it too" schtick stopped becoming valid thinking in elementary school. n/t
X_Digger
Jan 2018
#171
We are discussing what the proper response is- equating cover ups to reprimands is bullshit....
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#176
Once again, we see people pretending to give a damn about women and using any story they can cook up
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#202
She probably should have fired him day one. Can we now focus on what is ACTUALLY
Eliot Rosewater
Jan 2018
#135
I am glad the women was comfortable enough to come forward withing the camp and that
riversedge
Jan 2018
#271
Hillary Clinton was never going to fit perfectly into the role of women's savior.
Orsino
Jan 2018
#350