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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton Chose to Shield a Top Adviser Accused of Harassment in 2008 [View all]George II
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Hillary Clinton Chose to Shield a Top Adviser Accused of Harassment in 2008 [View all]
Jose Garcia
Jan 2018
OP
Yeah, because women like getting harassed and then transferred as a result.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#38
We obviously don't know all the details of the situation, so none of us can speculate about "why".
George II
Jan 2018
#95
We know enough. He got to keep his job and she got transferred. Then he got to do it again.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#105
We don't know why he got to keep his job and she got transferred. It may have been....
George II
Jan 2018
#123
We know, from the reporting, the Chief of Operations wanted him fired and was overruled.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#129
No I didn't. But if anything we should want to know why he kept his job, not how.
George II
Jan 2018
#143
You mean like when Latina women wanted a deputy political directed fired for covering up
ehrnst
Jan 2018
#299
So, is this something that should disqualify a candidate from running as a Democrat?
ehrnst
Jan 2018
#335
Um... how is that "continuing to keep his job" through 2014 when the campaign was over in 2008?
ehrnst
Jan 2018
#284
Total BS...he was sent for counseling which was not nothing...and a big who cares. Hillary is a
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#224
This woman said she felt like she was being blamed from the Sanders' campaign:
R B Garr
Jan 2018
#243
My first reaction, as well. Classic tactic that often derails the complaining woman's
Ms. Toad
Jan 2018
#160
The article cited in the original post is about the Clinton campaign and does not mention Sanders.
Bluepinky
Jan 2018
#270
You should take your own advice. If you have hangups about individual posters,
R B Garr
Jan 2018
#282
You DO understand that calling someone out on re-fighting the primaries
LiberalLovinLug
Jan 2018
#320
It was the 2008 campaign, almost ten years ago. The harasser was disciplined....
George II
Jan 2018
#289
Looks to me like she gave him a pass for it, & then fired him when the counseling didn't work...
Honeycombe8
Jan 2018
#178
It's unbelievable the lengths some will go to defend those who minimize sexual harassment.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2018
#213
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST are we really going to minimize this shit with special pleading just because
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#20
Paid what price? He brushed ot off & it was never mentioned again....but Al Franken ..
Wwcd
Jan 2018
#64
A candidate did "write something like that", and it wasn't trump. I'd refresh your recall, but...
George II
Jan 2018
#199
Who ignored the advice of the Chief of Staff that the pervert should be fired?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#188
Hillary Clinton has issued a two-part tweet (because of the 140 character limit)...
George II
Jan 2018
#195
You have zero evidence Sanders intervened personally or moved anyone.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#261
Is she alleging Sanders personally intervened to save the abuser's job?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#267
Yes, you have sufficiently narrowed the scope to ignore what happened in 2008
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#166
I maintain, at my company, he'd have been dropped out the airlock. Even back in 2008.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#348
Yes, it's what they do... we should have ZERO tolerance for sexual harassment.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2018
#211
I think its time to raise a big stink about Rape Fantasies & why the writer is still hailed above al
Wwcd
Jan 2018
#62
Did sanders intervene to keep to sexual abuser and transfer the victim?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#247
Doesn't it seem somehow wrong to retain the abuser, and move the victim?
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#50
"he rubbed her shoulders and kissed her on the forehead and sent her unwanted emails"
left-of-center2012
Jan 2018
#110
Just curious. How do you feel about women being required to relocate seats on a plane...
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#78
It's news, but I find it amusing that the NY Times puts it on the same front page as their story
still_one
Jan 2018
#82
No offense but tl;dr. Not interested in some Gish Gallop over how The NYT is fake news.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#85
Is it the full story? I am not sure, that is my point, because the Times has been known to
still_one
Jan 2018
#142
Umm. Did you read the article? He was rehired in 2016 and did it again while working on the campaign
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#92
Correct The Record didn't exist until 2015 so there seems to be some discrepancy on the dates.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#192
Well in this case "HR" recommended firing and the CEO protected a serial abuser.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#198
Why? The reporting on the Mueller attempt firing by Shitler...is that something you have faith in??
Fred Sanders
Jan 2018
#32
Gee, someone with a history of sexual harassment gets hired again and harasses again?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#31
This is just the both sides do it BS. The real story is about Steve Wynn rethug money bag.
kydo
Jan 2018
#13
OR it's also a story, granted of smaller magnitude based on the accusations.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2018
#21
Liberals wait For full facts before the outrage. But, free country. Tempest in a Foxxx teapot.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2018
#33
The story doesn't say that the victim was moved away from her co-workers and friends.
lapucelle
Jan 2018
#305
People are not allowed to make up facts in the service of their narratives. N/T
lapucelle
Jan 2018
#319
She may have wanted to go. I wanted out of my department after having a guy keep making the moves on
Demsrule86
Jan 2018
#345
Don't tell me what to do or not to do. Save your lectures for Maggie Haberman.
lapucelle
Jan 2018
#318
They had suggestive emails sent in the middle of the night by a married man.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#60
How about who blocked the firing recommended by the investigating party which then ...
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#81
If the Republican was out of politics, not running for anything? Say, Chris Christie?
Demit
Jan 2018
#91
Is this the first scandal where HR actually took action in a complaint- wasnt burying the story
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#89
It's a pretty glaring example of HR recommending firing, management overruling HR...
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2018
#115
Its a rare example because the man actually faced consequences is what it is. Thats what is
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#131
Is this never ending Hillary hate a not to subtle message to all female politicians?
Yavin4
Jan 2018
#90
I don't think so, really. Hillary Clinton is sui generis. She has been the special
Demit
Jan 2018
#93
Without Further Details, This Incident From 10 Years Ago Smells Like "Bothsiderism"
dlk
Jan 2018
#103
So Hillary is at fault for Brock too? Interesting. If she believed the punishment from HR was
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#125
"he rubbed her shoulders and kissed her on the forehead and sent her unwanted emails"
left-of-center2012
Jan 2018
#112
The "waah, he did it too" schtick stopped becoming valid thinking in elementary school. n/t
X_Digger
Jan 2018
#171
We are discussing what the proper response is- equating cover ups to reprimands is bullshit....
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#176
Once again, we see people pretending to give a damn about women and using any story they can cook up
bettyellen
Jan 2018
#202
She probably should have fired him day one. Can we now focus on what is ACTUALLY
Eliot Rosewater
Jan 2018
#135
I am glad the women was comfortable enough to come forward withing the camp and that
riversedge
Jan 2018
#271
Hillary Clinton was never going to fit perfectly into the role of women's savior.
Orsino
Jan 2018
#350