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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
85. Most not only share our values but help us define ours
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jan 2018

and understand them in the context of current events. That's a part of what the typical Democratic pol tries to do in those speaking engagements and meetings with constituents who visit, although the complexities put severe limits on this.

Unfortunately, deepening the understanding of adults who don't know what it is to know something may not always be possible.

That last is a problem Trump has big time. He knows that pols and generals, especially Democrats, all know far less than him and in fact got himself elected pleasing ignorant crowds with that nonsense.

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Well, hey ... at least they briefly fronted for a LITTLE BIT that they had actual principles ... mr_lebowski Jan 2018 #1
Be careful...I posted the same sentiments a few times BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #3
Love you BP sharedvalues Jan 2018 #6
I do not trust McConnell for a second and last night BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #7
"The real fight is now"...? regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #8
Engage brain, guys. 87% of ALL Americans support DACA, Hortensis Jan 2018 #62
Yes! Fight for the American dream and hardworking immigrants! Call Senators! sharedvalues Jan 2018 #76
Thanks for pointing this out, Hortensis Hekate Jan 2018 #78
It's our job to pur pressure on Senate Dems now. CHIP is done. It's an immigration fight now. sharedvalues Jan 2018 #75
Suggest putting pressure on Senate Republicans. Hortensis Jan 2018 #80
Both. Call Dems and tell them to talk about American immigration and our values. sharedvalues Jan 2018 #84
Most not only share our values but help us define ours Hortensis Jan 2018 #85
Politico reported this at about 7:00pm. No one else has said a word about it. Stonepounder Jan 2018 #2
It's got a quote confirming it from one of my own Senators... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #5
Don't worry Democrats jl_theprofessor Jan 2018 #4
Riiight. Because letting Congress stay red will be great for Latinos. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #9
millions of latinos voted for trump one suspects nt msongs Jan 2018 #10
Trump did the same as Romney with Latinos, he got 28%. nt SunSeeker Jan 2018 #17
Sorry, but the "we don't have to do anything for you, you've got nowhere else to go"... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #11
And you see this sentiment jl_theprofessor Jan 2018 #13
That is NOT the sentiment I was expressing. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #18
That is NOT what I am saying. I am saying if Latinos stay home, we won't flip Congress. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #16
And, being in the minority, we have only ONE means of leverage... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #20
The American public did not want us to use that leverage to block the budget over DACA. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #22
I don't care about what the majority of Americans want. jl_theprofessor Jan 2018 #25
That is a really offensive post. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #34
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #57
Agree totally Thekaspervote Jan 2018 #48
If they're not fighting for Latinos jl_theprofessor Jan 2018 #12
Democrats are fighting for Latinos. We got a Feb. 8 date for a vote on DACA. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #14
And, since we've removed our linkage of DACA to the budget... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #21
If McConnell breaks his promise, we will use that against him any way we can. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #24
HOW??? regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #29
Well, voting out Dems is NOT how. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #35
McConnell' doesn't control the House ripcord Jan 2018 #59
Yes. Demtexan Jan 2018 #55
I have a feeling Feb 8th will come and nothing will happen. Demtexan Jan 2018 #43
My, my, jl_the professor, you are certainly down on Democrats, who will continue being a minority Hekate Jan 2018 #77
They will just stay home out of disgust NickB79 Jan 2018 #58
No they will not. denbot Jan 2018 #60
I hope I'm wrong NickB79 Jan 2018 #73
Trump is boosting Latino turn out. denbot Jan 2018 #74
Ask the Puerto Ricans..... SergeStorms Jan 2018 #15
As I said upstream... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #26
We chose not to because it is not a viable path to get DACA. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #36
I understand your position. SergeStorms Jan 2018 #39
That is a misleading headline. Dems have not dropped their Dreamer demand. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #19
That's not what the article says... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #23
The article is simply describing the process following McConnell's promise of a Feb. 8 DACA vote. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #28
McConnell made no promise! atreides1 Jan 2018 #52
I;m calling my "blue dog" Dem senator.... dawg day Jan 2018 #30
Thank you. nt SunSeeker Jan 2018 #32
Despite what Schumer says, I suspect the deal will be "Wall in exchange for Dreamers" Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #27
Schumer took the wall off the table so he could use it as a bargaining chip for DACA. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #31
What is Feb. 8 comes around and nothing happens. Demtexan Jan 2018 #54
What the hell-- dawg day Jan 2018 #33
What else to we give him. Demtexan Jan 2018 #45
And their 8 TO 9 MILLION GaryCnf Jan 2018 #56
This. alarimer Jan 2018 #82
So.. Apparently we as a party refuse to stand up against an unpopular president quakerboy Jan 2018 #37
Shutting down the government for DACA is not a popular cause. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #38
We lose because we do not stand quakerboy Jan 2018 #40
You are so right. Demtexan Jan 2018 #41
We got CHIP extended for 6 years AND a Feb. 8 vote on DACA. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #50
I have to disagree. Demtexan Jan 2018 #53
We lose because of these circular firing squads. nt SunSeeker Jan 2018 #46
On du? You seriously believe that "circular firing squads" here actually affect the outcomes Fix The Stupid Jan 2018 #70
We lose because we do not stand together quakerboy Jan 2018 #72
Majority of Americans say a lot of things rpannier Jan 2018 #42
The shut down would not lasted a month. Demtexan Jan 2018 #44
The prior shutdown did hurt the GOP. Ted Cruz was blamed, and he remains unpopular. SunSeeker Jan 2018 #49
In what way? rpannier Jan 2018 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Jan 2018 #47
This might not be such a bad thing people. cstanleytech Jan 2018 #61
Yeah, I'm conflicted about this... Ligyron Jan 2018 #63
Exactly. nt cstanleytech Jan 2018 #65
That is what I think too. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #68
AH ... Second paragraph is what is completely missing in this discussion Cosmocat Jan 2018 #69
sound like fake news to me beachbum bob Jan 2018 #64
So 70% of Americans believe in DACA Cold War Spook Jan 2018 #66
The only publication reporting this is Politico...all others use their article...so Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #67
This is what the story says: MGKrebs Jan 2018 #71
Not a big deal IF krawhitham Jan 2018 #79
They never fail to disappoint. alarimer Jan 2018 #81
Great strategy: make Republicans KPN Jan 2018 #83
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