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318. Don't tell me what to do or not to do. Save your lectures for Maggie Haberman.

Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:52 PM

Jan 2018

The 2008 Clinton campaign followed the recommendations of legal counsel. The accused never worked for HRC after. Correct the Record was famously led by David Brock.

Those truly who truly want to "learn from this mistake [sic] and prevent it from happening again" should spend their efforts on present cases, not events of a decade ago. Hillary Clinton is a private citizen. Why on earth would anyone be concerned that she would make "these mistakes" [sic] again?

Where's the outrage over Glenn Thrush's continued employment at the Times? Why is the sanctimonious Maggie Haberman still working on a book with him?

Funny how the very concerned are not concerned enough to address current abuses in real time, at this moment, right now at the New York Times. It gives the game away.

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Hillary Clinton Chose to Shield a Top Adviser Accused of Harassment in 2008 [View all] Jose Garcia Jan 2018 OP

So, she docked his pay, sent him to counseling, and moved the at-risk staffer.... LisaM Jan 2018 #1

Why should the at risk staffer have to be moved? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #24

Maybe she wanted to be, I don't know. LisaM Jan 2018 #29

Yeah, because women like getting harassed and then transferred as a result. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #38

Fact free statement..... BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #331

That dead rooster you keep posting ehrnst Jan 2018 #333

We obviously don't know all the details of the situation, so none of us can speculate about "why". George II Jan 2018 #95

We know enough. He got to keep his job and she got transferred. Then he got to do it again. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #105

And this is something that's a non-starter? ehrnst Jan 2018 #113

Did you even read the article? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #117

Did you read this article? ehrnst Jan 2018 #124

Hmmm mcar Jan 2018 #234

Surprising that Sanders' campaign didn't have a Hortensis Jan 2018 #242

Yes, I did. ehrnst Jan 2018 #279

We don't know why he got to keep his job and she got transferred. It may have been.... George II Jan 2018 #123

We know, from the reporting, the Chief of Operations wanted him fired and was overruled. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #129

And? George II Jan 2018 #130

You wanted to know how he got to keep his job. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #139

No I didn't. But if anything we should want to know why he kept his job, not how. George II Jan 2018 #143

At least other candidates have a policy in place to deal with that! ehrnst Jan 2018 #281

You mean instead of being "demoted up"? ehrnst Jan 2018 #296

Well? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #132

Nuff said... no excuse for punishing the victim. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #212

You mean like when Latina women wanted a deputy political directed fired for covering up ehrnst Jan 2018 #299

So, is this something that should disqualify a candidate from running as a Democrat? ehrnst Jan 2018 #335

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #220

So? George II Jan 2018 #232

VEGAN RECIPES!!!!!!!! Didn't you see the bolded text for emphasis!! ehrnst Jan 2018 #285

Um... how is that "continuing to keep his job" through 2014 when the campaign was over in 2008? ehrnst Jan 2018 #284

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #286

Who was insisting that he "was never heard from again?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #302

Jill Abramson got fired at NY Times after male subordinate delisen Jan 2018 #157

Total BS...he was sent for counseling which was not nothing...and a big who cares. Hillary is a Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #224

This woman said she felt like she was being blamed from the Sanders' campaign: R B Garr Jan 2018 #243

You mean they tried to cover it up? ehrnst Jan 2018 #283

Wrong...and stop implying he worked for Clinton in 16. He did not. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #338

My first reaction, as well. Classic tactic that often derails the complaining woman's Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #160

Yep. "The new girl was involved in a scandal with mr so and so" Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #168

Probably not! :) She remained in the Clinton campaign Hortensis Jan 2018 #244

Yep.(nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #339

Are you saying that the Clinton Campaign said that? ehrnst Jan 2018 #341

Don't expect any, and they didn't. They moved her into the Hortensis Jan 2018 #342

Bingo. (NT) ehrnst Jan 2018 #344

Exactly... why punish the victim? InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #209

The Sander's campaign moved TWO staffers. R B Garr Jan 2018 #250

You've already acknowledged he didn't intervene. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #251

He said "Sanders Campaign," not Bernie. ehrnst Jan 2018 #340

Hassin, why? Why are you doing this? Hortensis Jan 2018 #343

So predictable, youre part of the anti-Sanders group. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #262

You can just admit you didn't read the thread. R B Garr Jan 2018 #263

Sometimes the truth hurts. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #264

Yes, apparently reading the truth about Sanders hurts, you R B Garr Jan 2018 #266

The article cited in the original post is about the Clinton campaign and does not mention Sanders. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #270

You should take your own advice. If you want to make things personal R B Garr Jan 2018 #272

I am not making things personal. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #274

You can just admit you didn't read the thread. R B Garr Jan 2018 #275

Welcome to DU to you too! Bluepinky Jan 2018 #277

If you want to talk about individual posters, you should start your R B Garr Jan 2018 #278

Welcome to DU! Bluepinky Jan 2018 #280

You should take your own advice. If you have hangups about individual posters, R B Garr Jan 2018 #282

Blah, blah, blah, did you say something? Bluepinky Jan 2018 #287

LOL, thanks for confirming you are just trying to get a reaction. R B Garr Jan 2018 #288

I was trying to have a conversation with you Bluepinky Jan 2018 #290

LOL R B Garr Jan 2018 #291

I am not your enemy, we both want a lot of the same things for our country. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #293

If you don't care about the hypocrisy, just say so. R B Garr Jan 2018 #294

Did you say something? Bluepinky Jan 2018 #295

Just admit you don't care about the hypocrisy. R B Garr Jan 2018 #298

I will admit that if you admit that you and others target Bernie, Bluepinky Jan 2018 #300

LOL, thanks for admitting you don't mind the hypocritical attacks R B Garr Jan 2018 #301

You have shown that you are a hypocrite by your response. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #306

+1000 LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #313

That is hilarious. Nothing was principled about that. R B Garr Jan 2018 #347

LOL, thanks again for admitting you are concerned R B Garr Jan 2018 #316

Where exactly is the "hypocrisy"? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #312

Yet you are here two days later talking about the primaries. R B Garr Jan 2018 #314

You DO understand that calling someone out on re-fighting the primaries LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #320

Its a Hillary hit piece from LAST WEEK. R B Garr Jan 2018 #322

It was the 2008 campaign, almost ten years ago. The harasser was disciplined.... George II Jan 2018 #289

Okay, thanks. Bluepinky Jan 2018 #292

Your post 24: "Why did the staffers have to be moved?" R B Garr Jan 2018 #255

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #256

Your post 24: "Why did the staffers have to be moved?" R B Garr Jan 2018 #259

The hatred of Hillary Clinton who is a private citizen is troubling...why? Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #337

Sounds like what the catholic church did. You think that was cool, too? n/t X_Digger Jan 2018 #167

Looks to me like she gave him a pass for it, & then fired him when the counseling didn't work... Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #178

It's not shielding. She took corrective action. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #303

He was fired. dalton99a Jan 2018 #2

Eight years later. former9thward Jan 2018 #4

to do what, exactly? azureblue Jan 2018 #8

Ok, you are saying women should submit to unwanted kissing. former9thward Jan 2018 #16

...... Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #70

Unlike you, I don't deflect. former9thward Jan 2018 #77

I referenced a much larger story. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #84

Looks like a reflection, not a deflection. George II Jan 2018 #96

Now that's some irony! LanternWaste Jan 2018 #346

It's unbelievable the lengths some will go to defend those who minimize sexual harassment. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #213

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST are we really going to minimize this shit with special pleading just because AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #54

Bernie paid a political price for that. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #58

Paid what price? He brushed ot off & it was never mentioned again....but Al Franken .. Wwcd Jan 2018 #64

It was never mentioned again. Lol Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #79

Why was it shielded from the press to our ears? Wwcd Jan 2018 #138

Well how did you find out about it? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #140

Wasn't from RT! Wwcd Jan 2018 #145

Didn't have to look too far Here's the link. Wwcd Jan 2018 #182

Wwcd's right. The press protected Bernie from Hortensis Jan 2018 #248

Why Shouldn't It Be Mentioned? Me. Jan 2018 #161

I didn't say it shouldn't be mentioned. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #183

Yet...It Remains A True Story Me. Jan 2018 #190

. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #193

I don't recall any candidate writing something like that Lordquinton Jan 2018 #102

Google rape fantasies bernie sanders. Or read it here. Wwcd Jan 2018 #141

Oh, yea, that's not at all what you claim it is Lordquinton Jan 2018 #204

A candidate did "write something like that", and it wasn't trump. I'd refresh your recall, but... George II Jan 2018 #199

No, I can't find anything like that Lordquinton Jan 2018 #205

It's a simple, easy google search. NPR did a story about it. George II Jan 2018 #229

Link, please? Ghost Dog Jan 2018 #108

See the post above yours. nt sheshe2 Jan 2018 #179

Here: Wwcd Jan 2018 #181

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #186

Bull. Minimizing his own disgusting words won't make it go away. Wwcd Jan 2018 #191

You claim to be disturbed by Mr. Sanders's 'essay'. Ghost Dog Jan 2018 #194

I could give you some of the thousands of protest comments that caused him to be Wwcd Jan 2018 #196

+ 1 Million Me. Jan 2018 #241

+1,000,000 George II Jan 2018 #197

I don't think anyone is minimizing it. George II Jan 2018 #97

Try post three. If that's not minimizing, I'm blind or something. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #149

Who ignored the advice of the Chief of Staff that the pervert should be fired? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #188

Hillary Clinton has issued a two-part tweet (because of the 140 character limit)... George II Jan 2018 #195

i thought they doubled that last year n/t 4rivers Jan 2018 #222

It was doubled for a certain % of users, not everyone. George II Jan 2018 #230

A Sanders' campaign victim said his campaign blamed her: R B Garr Jan 2018 #246

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #252

Ahh, from an anti-Hillary website?? R B Garr Jan 2018 #257

That's from twitter Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #258

Your post 24: "Why did the staffers have to be moved?" R B Garr Jan 2018 #260

You have zero evidence Sanders intervened personally or moved anyone. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #261

So now you're saying the victim is not believable?? R B Garr Jan 2018 #265

Is she alleging Sanders personally intervened to save the abuser's job? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #267

Where did Sanders personally intervene to dock his pay? R B Garr Jan 2018 #268

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #269

Why aren't you concerned about the Sanders' campaign victims? R B Garr Jan 2018 #273

Who is minimizing? I'm seeing however, a whole lot of maximizing... ehrnst Jan 2018 #114

Have a look at post 3. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #150

I'll read the actual story instead. lapucelle Jan 2018 #162

Yes, you have sufficiently narrowed the scope to ignore what happened in 2008 AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #166

Here's what happened in 2008 according to the NYT story. lapucelle Jan 2018 #170

Yes, I read it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #206

It was not "the recommendation at the time". lapucelle Jan 2018 #238

I maintain, at my company, he'd have been dropped out the airlock. Even back in 2008. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #348

They changed the woman's work assignment, docked his pay, ehrnst Jan 2018 #172

Yes, it's what they do... we should have ZERO tolerance for sexual harassment. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #211

I know... minimizing abuse is unacceptable ehrnst Jan 2018 #325

So a supervisor giving unwanted kissing and touching is ok now??? angrychair Jan 2018 #34

I think its time to raise a big stink about Rape Fantasies & why the writer is still hailed above al Wwcd Jan 2018 #62

Wow which book? There was never any book. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #74

Who said anything about a book? ehrnst Jan 2018 #116

Did you read the post I was responding to? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #118

Mea culpa - ehrnst Jan 2018 #119

Never to be brought up again EVER by ANYONE too, as I'm told. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #122

If Hillary is going to be held accountable, then Bernie should be as well ehrnst Jan 2018 #128

Thank you. I see the minimizing of Rape Fantasies continues. Wwcd Jan 2018 #136

I looked through the article. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #185

Salsbury said she felt she was being blamed by the Sanders' campaign R B Garr Jan 2018 #245

Did sanders intervene to keep to sexual abuser and transfer the victim? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #247

No, he did not intervene. It's all in the article. Where is the outrage R B Garr Jan 2018 #249

Arturo is a good friend of ours," Sanders said. ehrnst Jan 2018 #308

. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #309

LOL! ehrnst Jan 2018 #323

I have a more accurate signature rooster pic for you ehrnst Jan 2018 #334

Read it. Its his own essay. His words, not a false claim nor RW Talking pts. Wwcd Jan 2018 #180

Yep.(nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #324

Here are the writings of 30 yr old Bernie Sanders. Wwcd Jan 2018 #144

Nice deflection angrychair Jan 2018 #76

Let's put a face to this. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #68

sorta looks like turdblossom rove Kali Jan 2018 #107

Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #109

Or saying women fantasize about being raped by three men ehrnst Jan 2018 #121

No. He was fired a few months after a subsequent infraction... George II Jan 2018 #126

Here. From a October 2014 article Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #221

Why not read the NY Times article linked in the OP? George II Jan 2018 #231

He never worked for HRC after 2008. lapucelle Jan 2018 #147

He was fired from a different company. delisen Jan 2018 #158

Not by Secretary Clinton's campaign Jose Garcia Jan 2018 #165

You would think videohead5 Jan 2018 #3

I would think that if that happened to me I would be wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #35

So a supervisor giving unwanted kissing and touching is ok now??? angrychair Jan 2018 #36

Hold on videohead5 Jan 2018 #39

Really angrychair Jan 2018 #46

So now it's all the same? videohead5 Jan 2018 #48

YES, its all the same angrychair Jan 2018 #56

It was wrong videohead5 Jan 2018 #80

Doesn't it seem somehow wrong to retain the abuser, and move the victim? AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #50

Depends on which team he's on. n/t QC Jan 2018 #187

No-it is not. N/T flotsam Jan 2018 #61

"he rubbed her shoulders and kissed her on the forehead and sent her unwanted emails" left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #5

here we go again with the half truth-- azureblue Jan 2018 #6

Very confusing article. Shemp Howard Jan 2018 #7

actually it isn't confusing dsc Jan 2018 #14

I think I understand now. Shemp Howard Jan 2018 #18

Reassigned the employee? Really? You're ok with that??? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #40

Here the article is confusing dsc Jan 2018 #72

Just curious. How do you feel about women being required to relocate seats on a plane... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #78

The article doesn't give a ton of detail dsc Jan 2018 #127

Damn, that's a matrix-worthy dodge. n/t X_Digger Jan 2018 #169

I'll wait to hear the real accounting of this, not the NY Times version. Wwcd Jan 2018 #9

Lol. Is the New York Times fake news now? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #41

It's news, but I find it amusing that the NY Times puts it on the same front page as their story still_one Jan 2018 #82

No offense but tl;dr. Not interested in some Gish Gallop over how The NYT is fake news. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #85

Is it the full story? I am not sure, that is my point, because the Times has been known to still_one Jan 2018 #142

The NYT has had a vendetta against HRC since the Whitewater days. Demit Jan 2018 #88

Umm. Did you read the article? He was rehired in 2016 and did it again while working on the campaign Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #92

He wasn't rehired by Hillary Clinton. Demit Jan 2018 #98

There's no confusion. The article makes it clear what happened. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #99

Sorry. If it had been clear, you wouldn't have said the guy was "rehired," or Demit Jan 2018 #137

Correct The Record didn't exist until 2015 so there seems to be some discrepancy on the dates. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #192

How different is this from any HR response? djacq Jan 2018 #10

It's not. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2018 #15

Well in this case "HR" recommended firing and the CEO protected a serial abuser. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #198

Exactly harun Jan 2018 #86

Sure. I have lost all faith in the NYTimes. sinkingfeeling Jan 2018 #11

Why? The reporting on the Mueller attempt firing by Shitler...is that something you have faith in?? Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #32

Theyve been schizoid about Trump to point of seemingly trolling us... bettyellen Jan 2018 #57

I find this part most disturbing: Merlot Jan 2018 #12

And fired shortly thereafter. LisaM Jan 2018 #19

Actually he wasn't fired shortly thereafter. Shemp Howard Jan 2018 #28

Yes, I meant fired shortly after being hired in 2016. LisaM Jan 2018 #30

No. He was hired five years after the 2008 campaign by Correct the Record. Demit Jan 2018 #148

Who gave Haberman the heads up to this story? She's solid RW Wwcd Jan 2018 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #219

Sure, okay. And Correct the Record was launched in November 2013. Demit Jan 2018 #235

What was Correct The Record's sole mission? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #237

Look, I don't know what argument you want to have, but Demit Jan 2018 #239

Gee, someone with a history of sexual harassment gets hired again and harasses again? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #31

Why does any campainge need a "faith adviser"? Grins Jan 2018 #22

Votes n/t 4rivers Jan 2018 #223

This is just the both sides do it BS. The real story is about Steve Wynn rethug money bag. kydo Jan 2018 #13

OR it's also a story, granted of smaller magnitude based on the accusations. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #21

#fakenews. stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #17

What have we learned about 'faith-based' whatever in politics? Loubee Jan 2018 #23

It's poison, regardless of political affiliation. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #55

If she would have won MFM008 Jan 2018 #25

Wow, are we really this partisan?!? angrychair Jan 2018 #26

The double standard here can be egregious, sometimes. bearsfootball516 Jan 2018 #27

Liberals wait For full facts before the outrage. But, free country. Tempest in a Foxxx teapot. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #33

No, its not angrychair Jan 2018 #42

Hold on videohead5 Jan 2018 #45

He was her religious advisor angrychair Jan 2018 #47

Your 100% correct... how anyone can defend this is beyond me? InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #210

Even the guy who wrote a story about rape fantasy ? Wwcd Jan 2018 #326

No, Brock hired him in 2013. Read the story again. Demit Jan 2018 #174

From article angrychair Jan 2018 #216

I am merely correcting the misinformation that he was hired in 2016 by Hillary. Demit Jan 2018 #227

Not just what he did angrychair Jan 2018 #297

The story doesn't say that the victim was moved away from her co-workers and friends. lapucelle Jan 2018 #305

Again what is with this white washing angrychair Jan 2018 #317

People are not allowed to make up facts in the service of their narratives. N/T lapucelle Jan 2018 #319

What did I make up? What narrative? angrychair Jan 2018 #321

Somehow lapucelle Jan 2018 #327

Because that is what happened angrychair Jan 2018 #330

"It is logical to assume..." lapucelle Jan 2018 #332

She may have wanted to go. I wanted out of my department after having a guy keep making the moves on Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #345

You need to calm down and reread the article. yardwork Jan 2018 #214

He was hired to run an aligned PAC angrychair Jan 2018 #218

And you need to read my post again. You are making wild accusations. yardwork Jan 2018 #225

No just clarifying with all the hair splitting angrychair Jan 2018 #311

He was hired as a senior advisor to a PAC seven years later. lapucelle Jan 2018 #310

Please dont do that angrychair Jan 2018 #315

Don't tell me what to do or not to do. Save your lectures for Maggie Haberman. lapucelle Jan 2018 #318

A distraction? Going to go with that hand-wave? AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #63

I don't think anyone is saying it was okay. I'm not reading that anywhere. LisaM Jan 2018 #37

Not calling out specific people angrychair Jan 2018 #51

I couldn't get into the NYT article, so I don't know all the details. LisaM Jan 2018 #53

Two thoughts which probably won't be popular: Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #43

+100 PDittie Jan 2018 #328

From an HR perspective... jmbar2 Jan 2018 #44

Exactly ... The empressof all Jan 2018 #49

"reassignment of the young lady" Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #52

They had suggestive emails sent in the middle of the night by a married man. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #60

From an HR perspective: BULL RandomAccess Jan 2018 #94

She's not president awesomerwb1 Jan 2018 #59

I Still videohead5 Jan 2018 #65

She's not even in talks of running for 2020. Like some are. Wwcd Jan 2018 #67

How about romana Jan 2018 #66

YES videohead5 Jan 2018 #69

Thank you. Victim blaming is a RW tradition Wwcd Jan 2018 #71

How about who blocked the firing recommended by the investigating party which then ... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #81

Faith adviser, what a shock. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2018 #73

Swap a Republican's name for Hillary Clinton's name in this article democrank Jan 2018 #75

If the Republican was out of politics, not running for anything? Say, Chris Christie? Demit Jan 2018 #91

Well, I'll never vote for her again! TheDebbieDee Jan 2018 #83

LOL, nor will I. Lokilooney Jan 2018 #175

Kickin' Faux pas Jan 2018 #87

Is this the first scandal where HR actually took action in a complaint- wasnt burying the story bettyellen Jan 2018 #89

It's a pretty glaring example of HR recommending firing, management overruling HR... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #115

Its a rare example because the man actually faced consequences is what it is. Thats what is bettyellen Jan 2018 #131

Absurd Conclusion on your part. delisen Jan 2018 #153

Is this never ending Hillary hate a not to subtle message to all female politicians? Yavin4 Jan 2018 #90

I don't think so, really. Hillary Clinton is sui generis. She has been the special Demit Jan 2018 #93

Exactly. Remember the NYT nasty firing of Jill Abramson? delisen Jan 2018 #154

I've seen TV and read... Mike Nelson Jan 2018 #100

Naturally Glenn and all the Hillary Derangement Crowd is all orgasmic Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #101

Fuck Off greenwald.. we know you're Cha Jan 2018 #189

Without Further Details, This Incident From 10 Years Ago Smells Like "Bothsiderism" dlk Jan 2018 #103

2018-2016 2 years. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #106

So Hillary is at fault for Brock too? Interesting. If she believed the punishment from HR was bettyellen Jan 2018 #125

H. Clinton-so powerful she is responsible for everything! delisen Jan 2018 #159

It sounds like to me, she followed the law, investigated, Alice11111 Jan 2018 #104

I think Hillary should withdraw from the race......Oh. Wait a minute... OnDoutside Jan 2018 #111

"he rubbed her shoulders and kissed her on the forehead and sent her unwanted emails" left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #112

. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #120

As noted above, Sanders campaign ignores allegations of sexual harassment: bettyellen Jan 2018 #134

Thanks for posting. Wwcd Jan 2018 #156

The "waah, he did it too" schtick stopped becoming valid thinking in elementary school. n/t X_Digger Jan 2018 #171

We are discussing what the proper response is- equating cover ups to reprimands is bullshit.... bettyellen Jan 2018 #176

Thanks bettyellen! Cha Jan 2018 #200

Once again, we see people pretending to give a damn about women and using any story they can cook up bettyellen Jan 2018 #202

It seems Hillary will always be held to a higher standard mcar Jan 2018 #236

Looks like there were also issues with the Sanders campaign ehrnst Jan 2018 #133

Wow, Salsbury has an interesting story about the toxic Sanders' R B Garr Jan 2018 #146

What's that about glass houses? Cha Jan 2018 #201

Hi, Cha! Glass houses indeed. I dont see any ALL CAPS OUTRAGE R B Garr Jan 2018 #240

Exactly, RB.. they don't want to Cha Jan 2018 #307

She probably should have fired him day one. Can we now focus on what is ACTUALLY Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #135

Nobody "chose to shield him". The campaign followed the procedures in place lapucelle Jan 2018 #151

Yeah, um no. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #217

News Report or Propaganda Hit Piece? delisen Jan 2018 #152

They're trying to Franken Hillary now? orangecrush Jan 2018 #163

What's next, "Hillary Clinton groped me!"? betsuni Jan 2018 #164

Meanwhile, Glenn Thrush is still at the NYT. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2018 #173

And writing a book with Haberman, apparently. yardwork Jan 2018 #215

Chose to reprimand, punish and mandate treatment for.... bettyellen Jan 2018 #177

+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #203

Interesting thread. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #184

Im always skeptical of these stories about Hillary hamsterjill Jan 2018 #207

I am with you on this rurallib Jan 2018 #226

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #208

Auction paddles with "you lie" Historic NY Jan 2018 #228

So Hillary fucked up, she is NOT the president, she is not kacekwl Jan 2018 #233

Faux outrage bullshit tenderfoot Jan 2018 #253

NYT suspended Thrush 4 weeks in 2017, mcar Jan 2018 #254

I am glad the women was comfortable enough to come forward withing the camp and that riversedge Jan 2018 #271

That headline sounds like a Breitbart clickbait youtube title. ucrdem Jan 2018 #276

Look who's lapping it up. Cha Jan 2018 #329

Yep . . . ucrdem Jan 2018 #336

several years ago hubby was confronted with this decision... samnsara Jan 2018 #304

Firing an employee is never out of the question. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #349

Here's one staffer being accused of harassment called a "good friend" R B Garr Jan 2018 #351

I found some of the allegations in another story. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #352

Hillary Clinton was never going to fit perfectly into the role of women's savior. Orsino Jan 2018 #350