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In reply to the discussion: Probe Lawyers Thinks Mueller Could Indict Trump [View all]Sophia4
(3,515 posts)We see, for example, in Trump a "winner" (of the electoral college but not of the popular vote) who tries to offend and drive away the party he perceives to be the loser to his "win." And then we see that wounded "loser" (which actually won the popular vote), the Democratic Party, hurting, angry and stunned. That's how you get a paralyzed government.
It's not smart to do what Trump is doing and others have done. We don't want a paralyzed Democratic Party.
The smart thing is for the winner to win the "loser" to the winner's side. Obama did it to the extent possible with the Republicans and Hillary supporters who lost to him. Obama included Republicans and Hillary supporters in his government, in his cabinet and kept some Bush appointments on.
Trump has made a serious mistake in lording his "win" (which, I say again, was not a win at all in terms of the popular vote) over those he thinks "lost."
And this scenario plays out within the Democratic Party too. We cannot afford to view each other as winners and losers. Goes for both sides, Hillary and Bernie supporters. Trump is a great threat, and the division in the Democratic Party is the greater threat because it is paralyzing our ability to do anything real about the threat of Trump in our elections in close contests. We have won some elections, but I see the split in our Party here and on the internet elsewhere. This will not succeed.
I think things will go pretty well for Democrats in November, but we have lost so many statehouses and our ability to stop the Republicans and work for progress. We have to unite even though each side thinks it is right and the other side wrong. It will take a very big effort and a lot of self-discipline on the part of Democrats who feel bitter -- toward each other -- to make this work. I say that here because there are so many Democrats here.
Both sides of the Hillary/Bernie dispute feel that they have been treated unjustly. May be true. I'm not taking sides. I'm saying that both sides have to forget the feud and get together so that we can win in November. If we lose in November, we will have lost a lot more than just one congressional election. We will become further divided. The purists on both sides will become even more frozen in their division. On the other hand, there is nothing like winning to bring people together.
This is not the time to even think about being right and other Democrats being wrong. This is the time to work for the survival of Democratic values and also democratic values.
We cannot afford the division in the Democratic Party at this time. Being right, feeling we are right, feels very good, but it could result in yet another defeat in November and worse in 2020.
We saw victories in Virginia and in Alabama. We need to take courage from those and continue in state after state to rid ourselves of these Republicans.
That is what I am saying. That is what we should focus on. We can't make the past right. We can only change the future.
I am long-winded, but I have to add that I understand that the hurt is in both the Hillary and Bernie camps. Each side has its own arguments. And each side thinks the other is purist. So we just have to find it in our hearts to look beyond being right and asking who is the purist. We have to overcome our own division. Families do this all the time. And now Democrats have to do it. The risk if we don't do it is too high.
I lived in Germany and Austria, and I know what that risk is. Evil takes charge when good people do not work together.