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69. A politician's "lack of malice" is not a good enough reason to give him/her a free pass...

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 05:10 PM

Feb 2018

... when it comes to whether or not he/she should be held accountable (or held to some minimum standard) when it comes to differentiating between statements that are true or false. An inaccurate statement (whether noble, or benign) is still incorrect and needs to be corrected.

I think that everyone can agree that it's often difficult to determine a politician's motivation for the things that he/she says, but a careful observer can get some clues to that by noting who benefits (and conversely, who doesn't). Is he/she saying things that put him/her in a more positive light? Are the things that are being said likely to put others in a negative light?

What I'm trying to say is that generally speaking, when it comes to experienced politicians, the honest answers to those questions (above) can be used as a reliable indicator when trying to determine what his/her political motives may be.

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Sanders promoted false story on reporting Russian trolls [View all] brooklynite Feb 2018 OP

wow! K&R . stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #1

Kick & R pandr32 Feb 2018 #2

Truth will out. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #3

Someone needs to get his story straight. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #4

Lower and lower, sinking into the moral abyss, lark Feb 2018 #5

He betrayed his nation and his followers in what Hortensis Feb 2018 #51

Praying he doesn't run in 2020. lark Feb 2018 #58

:) Okay with me if he does because Hortensis Feb 2018 #71

I am SHOCKED SHOCKED to find gambling going on here. nycbos Feb 2018 #6

Here are your winnings, sir. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #41

So then, a Sanders campaign worker did NOT contact the Clinton campaign with this info? George II Feb 2018 #7

According to the article he contacted the Obama Administration with the info. jalan48 Feb 2018 #8

This is also in the article, near the beginning: George II Feb 2018 #10

Not to Clinton but to Obama then? jalan48 Feb 2018 #11

Let's get back to the subject and premise of the OP. Contacting the Obama administration... George II Feb 2018 #13

He did say this... jalan48 Feb 2018 #15

Correct. And yet now more than a year later, even though everyone knows that... George II Feb 2018 #19

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #25

We know why, you dont? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #26

I think this is all about blame-that's the point of the article. jalan48 Feb 2018 #27

Unless I read your post wrong, YOU are blaming Hillary and Barack. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #29

Honestly, given how important it was I don't understand why he didn't. jalan48 Feb 2018 #31

Thanks for confirming for me that you ARE blaming Barack and Hillary Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #33

No the article isn't about blame, it's about taking credit for something someone didn't do. George II Feb 2018 #40

The :blaming: refers to Sanders taking credit for something spooky3 Feb 2018 #30

OK jalan48 Feb 2018 #32

The first part has been explained over and over again with respect to Obama..... George II Feb 2018 #34

That's terrible. I bet he's the first Presidential candidate to make such a mistake. jalan48 Feb 2018 #35

Sanders is blaming Hillary for something Cha Feb 2018 #83

Yep.(nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #85

Here's how Weaver explained it in a Politico story earlier this week lapucelle Feb 2018 #91

So no one actually spoke to the person (Mattes) directly, just read it in an article? Plus..... George II Feb 2018 #93

Alright I'm confused. Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #20

The staffer contacted a pro-Clinton Super PAC in September, and then "just before the election"... George II Feb 2018 #21

"You don't cheat to lose." That is patently false. Lots of cheaters lose. yardwork Feb 2018 #113

If you suspect cheating, check out the winner first Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #117

Nonsense word salad. Bernie Sanders brought this all up himself this past Wednesday. yardwork Feb 2018 #125

"... he was confusing it for a super PAC supportive of Clinton. Cha Feb 2018 #54

This is a matter of federal law. Sanders' campaign is required by law to understand this. yardwork Feb 2018 #114

K&R. I'm not surprised by this lunamagica Feb 2018 #9

Nor Am I Me. Feb 2018 #14

Hmmm. I wonder why. What would motivate someone to do that? NurseJackie Feb 2018 #16

I already knew it.. What's surprising Cha Feb 2018 #65

Yes, that's the only surprise...but it just another confirmatoon of what we've known all along lunamagica Feb 2018 #68

Yes, indeedy! Cha Feb 2018 #73

We did. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #97

me neither. nt Maven Feb 2018 #81

I am also not surprised Gothmog Mar 2018 #139

Wow DesertRat Feb 2018 #12

He can't be the only volunteer or staffer to know MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #17

what a shocker obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #18

Can you, and others, please add in parenthesis which Sanders? The candidate or the mouthpiece? question everything Feb 2018 #22

The mouthpiece is named Jeff Weaver. emulatorloo Feb 2018 #53

.. Cha Feb 2018 #66

Good One Me. Feb 2018 #78

... ehrnst Feb 2018 #84

Ha Ha. The White House mouthpiece. Otherwise known as huckelberry (nt) question everything Feb 2018 #87

---- lapucelle Feb 2018 #92

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #23

So The SEnator Didn't Say That? Me. Feb 2018 #28

Russian bot tech has advanced further than we thought Bradical79 Feb 2018 #76

Yessiree Me. Feb 2018 #77

The Politico is not a Russian bot. Quoting Sanders what Bernie said the other day isn't BS emulatorloo Feb 2018 #57

Not a bot, obviously Bradical79 Feb 2018 #75

Every time I hear Bernie's Name DownriverDem Feb 2018 #24

Am I the only one who questions Politico's reporting? I remember sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #36

Sanders made the claim twice: first on Meet the Press, then in an interview with Demit Feb 2018 #42

I also question it Mountain Mule Feb 2018 #43

This is a developing story in Feb 2018, based on an interview Sanders gave to Vermont NPR a few days emulatorloo Feb 2018 #59

What element of the story are they not being truthful about? brooklynite Feb 2018 #46

An earlier Politico story quotes Weaver at length on the controversy. lapucelle Feb 2018 #94

Bernie Sanders said this during an interview broadcast by Vermont Public Radio. yardwork Feb 2018 #115

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #37

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2018 #39

The trolls win twice over! Stop fighting! DemocracyMouse Feb 2018 #38

Excellent point. Do not be divided and conquered. McCamy Taylor Feb 2018 #45

Tell that to sanders.. he's the one Cha Feb 2018 #62

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #86

+1000 I just finished rereading "The Crucible" - these anti-Bernie threads read like scenes right diva77 Feb 2018 #136

Goodman Sanders didst send his spirit out for to torment me! QC Mar 2018 #143

Moral, Sanders did not realize that some of his "grassroots" was "astroturf" McCamy Taylor Feb 2018 #44

that doesn't fly... JHan Feb 2018 #50

Exactly, JHan.. Cha Feb 2018 #67

Sorry, Bernie already said he knew about Russia in an interview on MSNBC in July 19 2017 emulatorloo Feb 2018 #64

Such Conflicting Stories.. he really Cha Feb 2018 #70

+1, if Sanders knew he should've been publicly speaking up even before the convention. This is uponit7771 Feb 2018 #102

And, he shouldn't try to deflect Cha Feb 2018 #104

I do not believe that is accurate. herding cats Feb 2018 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author murielm99 Feb 2018 #47

sorry....another pointless, pissing thread on 2016. Chakaconcarne Feb 2018 #48

Really? How so? This story is clearly about "inaccurate" boasts that were spoken in 2018. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #49

So much denial over the nonsense anti "establishment" arguments. JHan Feb 2018 #52

Total denial. But truth and transparency was not required R B Garr Feb 2018 #61

Actually no, it is about an interview that happened on Vermont radio a couple days ago. 2018. emulatorloo Feb 2018 #55

Tell that to Sanders... We'd love him to stop.. Cha Feb 2018 #72

I was irked by those charges made by Sanders against the Clinton campaign Gothmog Mar 2018 #140

Reprehensible.. who Cha Mar 2018 #141

As Sarah Sanders said, This Has Already Been Litigated and Answered Many Times Before... TomCADem Feb 2018 #80

Mueller's indictment is "fake news?" ehrnst Feb 2018 #89

There were many threads on news that recently came out about the 2008 election. ehrnst Feb 2018 #88

I am giving Bernie the benefit od the doubt. I can't see him being malicious in any of this wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Feb 2018 #60

A politician's "lack of malice" is not a good enough reason to give him/her a free pass... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #69

I stand by my post. My guess is Bernie was trying to inform people of Russian intrusion wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #74

When? I mean before this last week. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #82

Exactly. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #90

No this week wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #98

uh huh Cha Feb 2018 #96

If Bernie knew about it then he should have came out and said it publicly. herding cats Feb 2018 #112

Unnnn, read his account, he said they knew Russia was trying to cause riffs in the dem uponit7771 Feb 2018 #103

k&r n/t Henhouse Feb 2018 #63

K&R Scurrilous Feb 2018 #79

Of course he did. N/T ellie Feb 2018 #95

I'm sure it's all just a big misunderstanding . . . ucrdem Feb 2018 #99

Inflamatory title for what actually happened here. Politico reporting certainly wouldn't have a JCanete Feb 2018 #100

"He didn't say that he had contact with this person." that's the point, why claim they did ... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #105

Point was that could easily have been a legitimate mistake, since it sounds JCanete Feb 2018 #121

Disappointing uponit7771 Feb 2018 #101

K & R SunSeeker Feb 2018 #106

So a I sit here reading this I am on my way to day 2 of dem meeting dembotoz Feb 2018 #107

Where do you live? ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #108

wisconsin dembotoz Feb 2018 #109

They were rejuvenated enough not to turn out for our nominee Maven Feb 2018 #110

around here that is a lie dembotoz Feb 2018 #127

Oh? Maven Feb 2018 #129

Oh dembotoz Feb 2018 #132

Perhaps u might want to check out reports of a rally dembotoz Feb 2018 #134

Bernie brought this all up himself this past Wednesday. He called out Hillary Clinton by name. yardwork Feb 2018 #116

+1000 Henhouse Feb 2018 #122

resentful Dynamic Dem Feb 2018 #118

My worry is the same people who relentlessly attacked Hillary are not going to Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #119

+1 n/t Henhouse Feb 2018 #124

+1 n/t Henhouse Feb 2018 #123

oy. Staffer vs. volunteer? who cares? yurbud Feb 2018 #120

If that was the only mistake it could be forgivable- but the heart of his statement - her campaign bettyellen Feb 2018 #126

And that will be the end of that... Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #128

Totally agree. nt R B Garr Feb 2018 #135

K&R Gothmog Feb 2018 #130

I clicked, thinking this was gonna be about Sarah Huck bunt homer Feb 2018 #131

Bernie Sanders always struck me as a massive fraud. Oneironaut Feb 2018 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #137

K&R Gothmog Mar 2018 #138

Never liked the old man... Maxheader Mar 2018 #142