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In reply to the discussion: Russian spies hacked the Olympics and tried to make it look like North Korea did it, U.S. officials [View all]LiberalLovinLug
(14,707 posts)24. And Canada won't forget 2002 when they almost stole our gold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Winter_Olympics_figure_skating_scandal
When a french judge was working with the Russians to elevate the Russian pairs skaters in exchange for the same help from Russian judges for another figure skating event with French skaters.
What is still outrageous is that, not only did they rob Jamie Salé and David Pelletier of their moment, when they finally did give them the gold retroactively, they allowed the Russians to keep their gold too!
I know not every Russian is lying cheat, but their whole society is built on corruption and cheating. I have a brother-in-law who grew up in a Russian satellite country. Every aspect of their life is corrupted. He told me his experience getting his first driving license. He studied hard and practiced when he could, and felt he was ready. So he took the test and was flawless. But got rejected. He practiced more and tried again, same result. Finally someone took him aside and told him how to get the license. Put so much $ into an envelope and deliver it to this address. He did, and the next test try he passed no problem.
I think their whole society is sick and damaged. Putin is like the ultimate mob boss. He's reportedly the richest man in the world but no one knows just how much he has. Ill gotten through kickbacks and blatant stealing from other billionaires that disagreed with him politically. But their society seems to be conditioned after decades (actually centuries) of authoritarian rule. He has probably stolen so much from the Russian people in terms of what they could have built there with all that money. But like in any country, there is a segment that adores a "strong leader" promotes nationalism, orthodox religion, military endeavors, and just saying how great they all are. And its mostly all they know.
But they should be shamed on the world stage. Even after this mild punishment of being allowed to participate but under the banner of OAR, they STILL had, I believe, the only two athletes caught doping in the 2018 games. And now this allegation? They should be outright banned for the next two at least.
When a french judge was working with the Russians to elevate the Russian pairs skaters in exchange for the same help from Russian judges for another figure skating event with French skaters.
What is still outrageous is that, not only did they rob Jamie Salé and David Pelletier of their moment, when they finally did give them the gold retroactively, they allowed the Russians to keep their gold too!
I know not every Russian is lying cheat, but their whole society is built on corruption and cheating. I have a brother-in-law who grew up in a Russian satellite country. Every aspect of their life is corrupted. He told me his experience getting his first driving license. He studied hard and practiced when he could, and felt he was ready. So he took the test and was flawless. But got rejected. He practiced more and tried again, same result. Finally someone took him aside and told him how to get the license. Put so much $ into an envelope and deliver it to this address. He did, and the next test try he passed no problem.
I think their whole society is sick and damaged. Putin is like the ultimate mob boss. He's reportedly the richest man in the world but no one knows just how much he has. Ill gotten through kickbacks and blatant stealing from other billionaires that disagreed with him politically. But their society seems to be conditioned after decades (actually centuries) of authoritarian rule. He has probably stolen so much from the Russian people in terms of what they could have built there with all that money. But like in any country, there is a segment that adores a "strong leader" promotes nationalism, orthodox religion, military endeavors, and just saying how great they all are. And its mostly all they know.
But they should be shamed on the world stage. Even after this mild punishment of being allowed to participate but under the banner of OAR, they STILL had, I believe, the only two athletes caught doping in the 2018 games. And now this allegation? They should be outright banned for the next two at least.
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Russian spies hacked the Olympics and tried to make it look like North Korea did it, U.S. officials [View all]
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Feb 2018
OP
Bingo! Tit for tat. Trump amd Putin are working together to undermine the world by creating chaos.'
Fred Sanders
Feb 2018
#8
Oh, I don't think they are working 'together', I think Putin owns Trump and he is working for Putin.
olddad56
Feb 2018
#18
My take is, it's designed to undermine attempts by the South Korean government to engage the North
rpannier
Feb 2018
#11
Maybe an EMP over St.Petersberg would send the correct message because little else will stop the
Fred Sanders
Feb 2018
#6
So you think exploding a bomb over Russia, thus starting WWIII is a good idea?
earthshine
Feb 2018
#12