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8. We won't win PA-18 because Connor Lamb is a "moderate"

Wed Mar 7, 2018, 07:46 AM

Mar 2018

But because he, and whomever is running his campaign, are political geniuses.

During his entire campaign, even out there in blood red southwest Pennsylvania, NOT ONCE has he taken a swipe at "leftists," at Philly (a euphemism for, well, you know) or any of the other groups that so many are still wanting to blame for 2016.

You are right that purity is political death . . . the post-1992 CENTRIST PURITY has cost us everything. Except for Obama's social liberal campaign, we have failed to get a majority of the popular vote in ANY presidential election since we "moved to the middle" and we won in 1992 and 1996 ONLY because a strong right wing third party candidate was in the race. In the meantime, we have lost control of one state legislature after another (and with them control of representative district lines) as our "moderate" candidates run as conservative light (and come off as just that . . . "light" ) and get beat. If anyone thinks "running to the middle" is working, they need to consider a refresher course in math.

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Texas Dem attacked by DCCC makes primary runoff for Culberson's seat [View all] laserhaas Mar 2018 OP

Oh goody. Another "dems are divided " story which is meant to divide dems further and then suppress the dem vote. nocalflea Mar 2018 #1

Lol. EXACTLY. Hortensis Mar 2018 #92

I have a feeling that the division GaryCnf Mar 2018 #2

Shouldn't we ALL want the best Democrat for the district to run? George II Mar 2018 #4

As you continue posting the opposition research GaryCnf Mar 2018 #6

We're talking about Texas, and replacing a conservative republican. A "Center" Democrat.... George II Mar 2018 #9

The answer to the question you asked GaryCnf Mar 2018 #25

But the candidate you're saying "most people want" didn't even finish first in the primary George II Mar 2018 #29

Apparently you missed my post GaryCnf Mar 2018 #33

Well, as we've seen since November 2016, "centrist" Democrats have been doing quite well.... George II Mar 2018 #35

So you're claiming that only centrist have been winning? GaryCnf Mar 2018 #59

Holy cow, another person claiming that I said something that I never said. WHEN did I say: George II Mar 2018 #60

Hmmm GaryCnf Mar 2018 #61

And where does that say that "ONLY centrist Democrats have been winning"? BTW, I don't refer.... George II Mar 2018 #62

Trump--Business Fascism--White Supremacy--National Decline anyone? Hortensis Mar 2018 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #116

The DCCC doesn't "run" candidates, the Democrats in the districts in which candidates are running. George II Mar 2018 #117

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I remember Lizzie from the Houston Planned Parenthood protests Gothmog Mar 2018 #71

Not that you need my approval GaryCnf Mar 2018 #82

I used to live in this district and have some friends who got me to go to town hall Gothmog Mar 2018 #86

I really appreciate seeing this type of support GaryCnf Mar 2018 #94

I am active along with a large group of Texas Democrats in trying to turn Texas blue Gothmog Mar 2018 #97

I have zero problem with any of that GaryCnf Mar 2018 #99

That last is a shame. It's good to hear that this district Hortensis Mar 2018 #114

Is this your district? Cary Mar 2018 #90

The details of someone's basic biography are not oppo research. lapucelle Mar 2018 #65

Agreed Gothmog Mar 2018 #81

Lizzie Pannill Fletcher was endorsed over Moser by the Houston paper Gothmog Mar 2018 #70

Only the best candidate for a given district should win and represent the party. Purity is DEATH. LBM20 Mar 2018 #5

We won't win PA-18 because Connor Lamb is a "moderate" GaryCnf Mar 2018 #8

"NOT ONCE has he taken a swipe at "leftists," " George II Mar 2018 #10

Hmmm GaryCnf Mar 2018 #27

You claim the DCCC is "centrist" and have taken at least one swipe at them. George II Mar 2018 #30

Popular vote? padfun Mar 2018 #22

MAJORITY GaryCnf Mar 2018 #26

From the article: "her husbands company unfairly benefited from her campaign." George II Mar 2018 #3

"some argue" melman Mar 2018 #12

No I didn't George II Mar 2018 #13

You didn't what melman Mar 2018 #14

Ah, I see you're playing that li'l one-liner game with me again, answering your "question" yourself. George II Mar 2018 #16

I'm not playing any kind of game melman Mar 2018 #17

No I didn't. George II Mar 2018 #18

I attended some of the protests described in this ad Gothmog Mar 2018 #73

I thought the purpose of a primary... vi5 Mar 2018 #46

The voice of reason. Thank you. That is precisely the point of primaries. The fact is..... George II Mar 2018 #47

But the rules in this case.... vi5 Mar 2018 #48

The DFA/Our Revolution/Revolution Messaging candidate didn't finish first, or with 50% George II Mar 2018 #51

What is the rule in the primary? vi5 Mar 2018 #52

Exactly. The rules are established BEFORE the primary, not after it.. George II Mar 2018 #54

Doesn't answer my question...... vi5 Mar 2018 #57

Fletcher and the candidate who came in third were both endorsed by the Houston paper Gothmog Mar 2018 #83

The DCCC did it because of her padah513 Mar 2018 #7

You've got that backwords melman Mar 2018 #11

How is that "totally out of context"? Did she not say it? George II Mar 2018 #19

Look it up melman Mar 2018 #20

I know quite a bit about this already. You're the one... George II Mar 2018 #21

I absolutely am not playing any game melman Mar 2018 #28

Do you know where she lived prior to announcing her candidacy? George II Mar 2018 #32

Yes I do melman Mar 2018 #34

Hillary Clinton did not move to New York a few months before becoming a candidate, and... George II Mar 2018 #36

So you don't object melman Mar 2018 #39

There you go again. Sorry, if that's your take on what I said, NOT "understood". George II Mar 2018 #41

It's not my take melman Mar 2018 #42

You didn't read everything I said, or chose to ignore part of it. Or should I say.... George II Mar 2018 #43

I read it all melman Mar 2018 #45

That's NOT even close to what I said. You're doing exactly what you're complaining the DCCC did. George II Mar 2018 #49

No I'm not melman Mar 2018 #50

Here we go again. George II Mar 2018 #53

You absolutely did melman Mar 2018 #55

Well, sir, why not copy and paste "absolutely 100%" of both those things. Can you? George II Mar 2018 #56

You're playing word games now melman Mar 2018 #58

Whatever! Moser's a weak candidate in an era when Hortensis Mar 2018 #98

This is such utter horse shit I don't even know where to begin melman Mar 2018 #104

+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2018 #106

The Democrats in that district voted and, considering that there were 7 candidates, chose.... George II Mar 2018 #108

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #112

*This* brer cat Mar 2018 #113

These aren't "word games" - you said "You absolutely 100% did say both those things."... George II Mar 2018 #107

Yeah it actually is a word game melman Mar 2018 #109

Quite simply, you said that I "100% absolutely" said those things, but now you can't.... George II Mar 2018 #110

It appears from the context lapucelle Mar 2018 #91

Here it is: lapucelle Mar 2018 #89

I attended one of the programs where the candidates for this seat were present Gothmog Mar 2018 #74

Nice affirmation that Democrats have a good candidate. Hortensis Mar 2018 #111

Here's the context: lapucelle Mar 2018 #88

Stupid DCCC decision. David__77 Mar 2018 #15

Agreed-there are two other candidates who I saw at a townhall who were stronger than Moser Gothmog Mar 2018 #75

So why doesn't the watoos Mar 2018 #23

Same old, same old isn't going to cut it anymore. democrank Mar 2018 #24

How many have we gained back in the last 12-15 months? George II Mar 2018 #37

I think Fletcher has a better chance riversedge Mar 2018 #31

Thanks for a sensible, reasoned response. I too hope it's not a divisive run-off, although.... George II Mar 2018 #38

growl!! riversedge Mar 2018 #40

I have to admit, I am a bit confused. I thought we all agreed that NOTHING ELSE MATTERS Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #64

+1 SunSeeker Mar 2018 #69

I have met all of the candidates and I think that Fletcher is the stronger candidate Gothmog Mar 2018 #84

Glad she made the cut. Fuck you, DCCC. (nt) Paladin Mar 2018 #44

How do you feel about Democratic candidate Steve Brown... George II Mar 2018 #66

Ooops. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #67

Yes, you can FUCK YOU to them! Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #72

The attack on Sri Preston Kulkarni by Brown and the Our Revolution people backfired Gothmog Mar 2018 #79

An Our Revolution endorsement is almost like the kiss of death - in 2017 and 2018 .... George II Mar 2018 #85

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #93

I wasn't aware of the attack on Sri Kulkarni lapucelle Mar 2018 #101

A pastors group ended up not endorsing Steve Brown due to this crap Gothmog Mar 2018 #103

Coincidentally, that is what the Republicans and Russia Hortensis Mar 2018 #100

With Democrats fighting each other, who needs Republicans? IronLionZion Mar 2018 #63

Lizzie Pannill Fletcher is a really strong attorney and should beat Moser in the primary Gothmog Mar 2018 #68

Fine zipplewrath Mar 2018 #77

Without the DCCC involvement, the second strongest candidate would be in the runoff Gothmog Mar 2018 #78

Im not in the district but would have voted for Fletcher if I was. n/t tammywammy Mar 2018 #80

But the job of the DCCC is to get local Dems elected ehrnst Mar 2018 #95

Would you feel this way if it had been a LaRouche Democrat running? TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #105

Roughly speaking, yes zipplewrath Mar 2018 #115

Competition in the Democratic Party, saidsimplesimon Mar 2018 #76

so texas has strange rules..all knew that going in dembotoz Mar 2018 #87

This infighting is infuriating Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #102