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Ron Obvious

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32. I doubt the Geek squad employees would just "come across" illegal material.

Wed Mar 7, 2018, 05:21 PM

Mar 2018

It would require an active search and investigation in virtually all cases, and that would constitute an illegal search. At a minimum, the picture files would have to be opened and looked at.

Totalitarian and police state tactics always start with the justification of protecting children, protection against terrorism, etc. But it doesn't end with that. Copyrighted material is an obvious next step.

Also, if any illegal material is "found" on your system, you'd effectively have to prove your innocence and it's virtually impossible to prove you didn't put it there.

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Best Buy Geek Squad Employees Were Paid by FBI As Informants, Documents Suggest [View all] Initech Mar 2018 OP

I'm totally okay with this. underthematrix Mar 2018 #1

it's the pattern/principle Lithos Mar 2018 #3

Child porn and abusers definitely need to be busted. Initech Mar 2018 #4

You can't make exceptions to constitutional rights....I hate hate child porn. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #64

Really? atreides1 Mar 2018 #5

Yup dbackjon Mar 2018 #10

Exactly... at $500 per customer? Lucrative side businesss? Nt lostnfound Mar 2018 #38

I'm not okay with it for that very reason nt elmac Mar 2018 #41

So you are ok with violating the 4th Amendment, as long as it does good? dbackjon Mar 2018 #13

I understand but the safety of children should be more important. underthematrix Mar 2018 #14

This is not how evidence, that is actionable in court, is lawfully gathered. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #15

And a third possibility, that it could be actual evidence gathered in a criminal investigation. LisaM Mar 2018 #26

Sure, and it would be legal for someone to report it if they saw it in the course of AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #31

Children should be protected. So should the Constitution. dbackjon Mar 2018 #17

If the person signs off to give a third party their electronic device and that... moriah Mar 2018 #22

yep, and with the fascists in control elmac Mar 2018 #42

Agreed! LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #16

Even if it violates the Constitution? dbackjon Mar 2018 #18

Here a Tip... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #29

I would agree. But stupidity is not a reason to excuse a Constitutional Violation dbackjon Mar 2018 #30

It's A Reason... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #33

Including reigning in innocent people? Chemisse Mar 2018 #46

Child Porn on one's personal computer... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #60

If they have a moral and, in more than 20 states, a legal obligation to report these finding ToxMarz Mar 2018 #39

+1 Duty to report is a duty not an easy pay day. meadowlander Mar 2018 #43

. dalton99a Mar 2018 #2

photo developers used to do this all the time. mopinko Mar 2018 #6

There should be a general reward program. Find child porn on a customer's machine, NCjack Mar 2018 #7

Agree. Needs to be a conviction prior to any reward ehrnst Mar 2018 #9

Are you thinking people could not be convicted for a planted picture? Chemisse Mar 2018 #47

I'm talking about discouraging people from getting quick money. ehrnst Mar 2018 #48

The whole thing is a bad idea. Chemisse Mar 2018 #49

Incentives to report child porn? ehrnst Mar 2018 #50

Are you okay with people being paid to search through your things? Chemisse Mar 2018 #53

I think we are talking about different things. ehrnst Mar 2018 #54

Nor would I. Chemisse Mar 2018 #55

Thank you. ehrnst Mar 2018 #56

My original point was that no, requiring a conviction does not make this okay. n/t Chemisse Mar 2018 #57

Are you against rewards for information on crimes that results in a conviction on general principle ehrnst Mar 2018 #62

Is This Restricted to Child Porn? Leith Mar 2018 #8

Are you opposed to that technician reporting anything illegal that they saw? ehrnst Mar 2018 #63

I Agree with You Leith Mar 2018 #65

Many years ago, we bought a used computer UpInArms Mar 2018 #11

It's no less a 4th amendment violation Ron Obvious Mar 2018 #12

Bingo! dbackjon Mar 2018 #20

Still, if the repair contract states they will submit illegal images found to LE... moriah Mar 2018 #27

I doubt the Geek squad employees would just "come across" illegal material. Ron Obvious Mar 2018 #32

Uh, Windows previews images when in certain view modes. moriah Mar 2018 #35

You can tell child porn from regular porn from a thumbnail? Ron Obvious Mar 2018 #36

File/folder names could be giveaways, too. moriah Mar 2018 #37

last week child porn whats this week dembotoz Mar 2018 #19

Once upon a time, Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #21

I remember! Egnever Mar 2018 #24

The FBI is paying them to 'go fishing'. AtheistCrusader Mar 2018 #34

Taken a step further, the FBI could pay a tech worker Chemisse Mar 2018 #51

This is the point that many are missing. dbackjon Mar 2018 #58

Yes, if the government is effectively paying them to search your hard drive that brings the 4th... PoliticAverse Mar 2018 #59

Easy to plant stuff on someones computer, or for a virus to carry it nt lostnfound Mar 2018 #40

Years back, Geek Squads had servers they would copy off private family pictures to and view later. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #23

Honestly when you have anyone repair your machine Egnever Mar 2018 #45

Child porn is child abuse. Many of us are bound by a license to report it Ilsa Mar 2018 #25

I have taken computers to be fix ay Best Buy. Cold War Spook Mar 2018 #28

Raises another issue or three... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #44

Wasn't Newsweek just raided, money laundering .. nocalflea Mar 2018 #52

This is awful for a variety of reasons. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #61