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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
107. Gosh, as I recall at the time
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jan 2012

quite a few bloggers such as Kos, AmericaBlog, Pam Spaulding, et al said that thinking the GOP would keep their promises was idiotic, and that the bipartisan fetish Obama insisted on was foolish in the extreme.

Hell, I called it when the Dems staring making "nice, nice" after winning back the congress in 2006:

http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/s9/index.php?/archives/1483-Dems-still-freaking-clueless-about-their-opponents.html

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After chafing for years under what they saw as flagrant Republican abuse of Congressional power and procedures, the incoming majority has promised to restore House and Senate practices to those more closely resembling the textbook version of how a bill becomes law: daylight debate, serious amendments and minority party participation.

Beyond the parliamentary issues, Democrats assuming control on Jan. 4 said they also wanted to revive collegiality and civility in an institution that has been poisoned by partisanship in recent years. In a gesture duly noted by Republicans, the incoming speaker of the House, Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, offered Speaker J. Dennis Hastert of Illinois, who is remaining in Congress, the use of prime office space in the Capitol out of respect for his position.


Then you people are idiots.

The GOP MUST be punished for its six years of abuse of the system. I am all for treating people fairly and not acting like assholes the way Hasert, Delay, Frist and Co. did, but only AFTER these smegma-brained pricks get a taste of their own medicine AND the Dems UNDO all the damage wrought by Bush and his Constitution-destroying reign.

For the next six months, and conditioned on their good behavior, the GOP reps should be told to shut up and stay out of the way while the adults clean up the mess they have made of the country. If they so much as open their mouth once to bitch, then they should be told they just added another month to their punishment. Since they have acted like power-mad brats, then they should be treated like power-mad brats.

Later in the story we see that the GOP has NO intention of acting in anything vaguely resembling a civil manner:

“There are going to be days when we will offer alternatives in ways that are going to be very appealing to Democrats in districts the president carried just two years ago,” said Representative Roy Blunt of Missouri, who will be the second-ranking House Republican in the 110th Congress.

Republicans see the ability to force tough votes — which they avoided in the majority by stifling Democratic alternatives — as having two potential benefits: It can put vulnerable Democrats on record with positions that might not be popular at home, or it can fracture the untested Democratic majority. Mr. Blunt noted that even senior Democrats who served in Congress when Democrats held control had no experience dealing with a relatively thin, 16-seat majority that will not allow many lawmakers to avoid tough votes.


Once agin, the Dems are showing up to the proverbial gun fight with nothing more than a finger to wag.

Let me paraphrase Kyle Reese and spell it out for you fools:

The taste of Republican butt does not improve with age.

The NeoCons can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They do not feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, EVER, until you are dead.


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The filibuster should be done away with for the simple reason that one side uses it all the time, and the other side is afraid to use it at all.

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A longer report from The Guardian harvey007 Jan 2012 #1
They have a right to have their voices heard, may we all listen and learn. freshwest Jan 2012 #3
Too Bad - looks like the Dem leadership is going to blow it on this one FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #5
They have a right to be heard, but anyone who says the Democrats pnwmom Jan 2012 #24
Hey, they controlled the rules Kelvin Mace Jan 2012 #29
bullshit. the 'left' has been an disgrace for 20 yrs while a few talk radio blowhards reading think certainot Jan 2012 #41
ahuh... you despise the left fascisthunter Jan 2012 #77
as long as the 'left' has NO challenge to the right's best weapon, the collective 'left' are idiots certainot Jan 2012 #79
Lacking the benefits of 20/20 hindsight, they had no reason in the beginning of 2009 pnwmom Jan 2012 #44
Yeah, and crim son Jan 2012 #49
Republicans deliver results to their constituents.. sendero Jan 2012 #51
This. End of thread. closeupready Jan 2012 #59
Are you calling them stupid wimps?? pocoloco Jan 2012 #54
Gosh, as I recall at the time Kelvin Mace Jan 2012 #107
Agreed. I was on a board that followed that day to day. freshwest Jan 2012 #40
"they" didn't walk away. kenfrequed Jan 2012 #75
a lot did think their work was done, gave up and didn't vote in 2010 certainot Jan 2012 #80
I am uncertain. kenfrequed Jan 2012 #82
blue dogs and conservadems owe and are empowered by the fact the 'left' ignores talk radio in their certainot Jan 2012 #83
I'm sorry but that is crap kenfrequed Jan 2012 #85
talk radio kicks left wing internet ass certainot Jan 2012 #86
Exactly how does the left stop this? kenfrequed Jan 2012 #90
i've thought a lot about it, buying stations is a RW talking point that gives up the fact that certainot Jan 2012 #92
also OWS needs to recognize talk radio is the 1%'s best tool. samson's hair. the great enabler, certainot Jan 2012 #93
Occupy the MSM sites, like I do. I kick talk radio ass on my local paper's site & the dittos roseBudd Jan 2012 #94
Let us know when you've completed your purchase of Clear Channel. eom tledford Jan 2012 #87
no kidding kenfrequed Jan 2012 #88
you guys give up that easily? RW radio is samson's hair and the left seems to want to comb it certainot Jan 2012 #91
Blame kenfrequed Jan 2012 #95
i blame the left for ignoring RW talk radio that intimidates and enables the blue dogs, i don't give certainot Jan 2012 #97
in other words leave it to the 1%? that's a RW talking point. not only that, good luck with and majo certainot Jan 2012 #89
Right... kenfrequed Jan 2012 #96
if money always wins what's the use of democracy? there is NO ORGANIZED OP TO THE RW BEST WEAPON certainot Jan 2012 #98
This is getting ridiculous kenfrequed Jan 2012 #101
there's a guy on a soapbox in your neighborhood calling you a thief and traitor all day and i'm certainot Jan 2012 #102
nobody is friggin waiting. kenfrequed Jan 2012 #103
no, the moderates aren't going to do it anyway. the only one's capable of fixing it are the one's certainot Jan 2012 #104
Thank you UK! The US whore media sucks. qb Jan 2012 #57
At least this is proactive. randome Jan 2012 #2
Occupy will do what occupy wants. annabanana Jan 2012 #4
Democrats take note: midnight Jan 2012 #6
Democrats in Congress have been a huge disappointment since 2000. rhett o rick Jan 2012 #7
I knew that eventually we would agree... russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #19
they reflected their lame base support that allowed 1000 radio stations to kick left internet ass certainot Jan 2012 #42
Congressional Democrats have been a huge disappointment pscot Jan 2012 #61
Then promote an alternative. randome Jan 2012 #62
I still think Obama will harness the energy of OWS when the time comes. secondwind Jan 2012 #8
Not after signing NDAA. libmom74 Jan 2012 #9
Oh right, because of all savalez Jan 2012 #14
Signing statement? Link please. i_sometimes Jan 2012 #16
Here ya go ... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #17
Ooh, a signing statement brentspeak Jan 2012 #26
I'm sorry if the links offended you, some of us do like to read 'all types' of articles .... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #27
"All types" of articles. hay rick Jan 2012 #55
Incoming Wall of Blue Links! i_sometimes Jan 2012 #33
There was a statement nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #36
Nice try... i_sometimes Jan 2012 #31
See comment #16. YOU are the one that asked for the LINK. Tx4obama Jan 2012 #35
+1 (n/t) a2liberal Jan 2012 #48
From your first link: ronnie624 Jan 2012 #60
A signing statement has no legal meaning. former9thward Jan 2012 #84
Right.... i_sometimes Jan 2012 #39
agreed... dougolat Jan 2012 #50
The time came and went. hay rick Jan 2012 #11
Just no. i_sometimes Jan 2012 #15
Excellent ! russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #20
+1 emilyg Jan 2012 #28
What in the world would you base that on? He takes Wall Street corporate money. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #21
PLEASE Skittles Jan 2012 #25
I really don't think Obama.. sendero Jan 2012 #52
LOL! Little Star Jan 2012 #56
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Zhade Jan 2012 #106
more or less the conservative party got the die in. whether it's democrats or republicans I don't PatrynXX Jan 2012 #10
both political parties.... unkachuck Jan 2012 #12
OWS adherents seem to want it both ways. randome Jan 2012 #13
I tend to agree. savalez Jan 2012 #18
GEE, politicians lie ! russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #22
You just made randome's point. savalez Jan 2012 #23
because dems listen to constituents and in most parts of the country RW radio has a huge effect to certainot Jan 2012 #43
Precicely why leftynyc Jan 2012 #53
I hope these people don't ruin it for Obama center rising Jan 2012 #30
Wrong bogeyman... i_sometimes Jan 2012 #32
Really, these people!!!! center rising Jan 2012 #81
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #34
My lord, given that EVEN THE PRESIDENT has adopted some of their frames nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #37
You have not one iota of an inkling of an idea of what you are talking about. Hissyspit Jan 2012 #46
Nope, not surprised one bit nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #38
It Sounds like 12 Republicans to me!!! NAGAUEL Jan 2012 #45
During their Rose Parade float I saw a lot of OWSers making fun of Republicans. joshcryer Jan 2012 #47
Good. We need a voice that can compete with their wealthy donors. qb Jan 2012 #58
OWS = Fail rethymnon Jan 2012 #63
OWS = moderate success to date Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #64
I think the OWS adherents need to learn something. randome Jan 2012 #66
I dunno. Martin Luther did a good job with that church door. aquart Jan 2012 #69
Study the present. randome Jan 2012 #71
The ONLY successes that The People have gotten over my lifetime - Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #72
The "only successes"? CBHagman Jan 2012 #73
Frighten you, do they? Peaceful protest unnerving you? aquart Jan 2012 #67
Way to go. randome Jan 2012 #68
Nothing for me to address. #OWS has the situation well in hand. aquart Jan 2012 #70
This is what goes through our minds, every day - Zorra Jan 2012 #99
Fantastic. Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #65
ONCE AGAIN, 'CHICAGO: THE MUSICAL CHAIRS' merkozy Jan 2012 #74
that was very mavericky of you Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #100
K and R (nt) bigwillq Jan 2012 #76
GOOD! fascisthunter Jan 2012 #78
1% are 1%. Zhade Jan 2012 #105
I have mixed feelings about this tawadi Jan 2012 #108
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