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Hassin Bin Sober

(27,363 posts)
71. Stop bringing up the 2008 primary.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 01:44 PM
Mar 2018

That's ancient history.



Here is a portion of the letter:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/05/clintons-closing-argument-to-superdelegates/53314/




Dear ___________,

The stakes in this election are so high: with two wars abroad, our economy in crisis here at home, and so many families struggling across America, the need for new leadership has never been greater.

At this point, we do not yet have a nominee – and when the last votes are cast on June 3, neither Senator Obama nor I will have secured the nomination. It will be up to automatic delegates like you to help choose our party’s nominee, and I would like to tell you why I believe I am the stronger candidate against Senator McCain and would be the best President and Commander in Chief.

Voters in every state have made it clear that they want to be heard and counted as part of this historic race. And as we reach the end of the primary season, more than 17 million people have supported me in my effort to become the Democratic nominee – more people than have ever voted for a potential nominee in the history of our party. In the past two weeks alone, record numbers of voters participated in the West Virginia and Kentucky primaries. And with 40 and 35 point margins of victory, it is clear that even when voters are repeatedly told this race is over, they’re not giving up on me – and I am not giving up on them either.

After seven years of feeling invisible to the Bush administration, Americans are seeking a President who is strong, experienced, and ready to take on our toughest challenges, from serving as Commander in Chief and ending the war in Iraq to turning our economy around. They want a President who shares their core beliefs about our country and its future and “gets” what they go through every day to care for their families, pay the bills and try to put something away for the future.

We simply cannot afford another four – or eight – years in the wilderness. That is why, everywhere I go, people come up to me, grip my hand or arm, and urge me to keep on running. That is why I continue in this race: because I believe I am best prepared to lead this country as President – and best prepared to put together a broad coalition of voters to break the lock Republicans have had on the electoral map and beat Senator McCain in November.

Recent polls and election results show a clear trend: I am ahead in states that have been critical to victory in the past two elections. From Ohio, to Pennsylvania, to West Virginia and beyond, the results of recent primaries in battleground states show that I have strong support from the regions and demographics Democrats need to take back the White House. I am also currently ahead of Senator McCain in Gallup national tracking polls, while Senator Obama is behind him. And nearly all independent analyses show that I am in a stronger position to win the Electoral College, primarily because I lead Senator McCain in Florida and Ohio. I’ve enclosed a detailed analysis of recent electoral and polling information, and I hope you will take some time to review it carefully.

In addition, when the primaries are finished, I expect to lead in the popular vote and in delegates earned through primaries. Ultimately, the point of our primary process is to pick our strongest nominee – the one who would be the best President and Commander in Chief, who has the greatest support from members of our party, and who is most likely to win in November. So I hope you will consider not just the strength of the coalition backing me, but also that more people will have cast their votes for me.

I am in this race for them -- for all the men and women I meet who wake up every day and work hard to make a difference for their families. People who deserve a shot at the American dream – the chance to save for college, a home and retirement; to afford quality health care for their families; to fill the gas tank and buy the groceries with a little left over each month.

I am in this race for all the women in their nineties who’ve told me they were born before women could vote, and they want to live to see a woman in the White House. For all the women who are energized for the first time, and voting for the first time. For the little girls – and little boys – whose parents lift them onto their shoulders at our rallies, and whisper in their ears, “See, you can be anything you want to be.” As the first woman ever to be in this position, I believe I have a responsibility to them.

Finally, I am in this race because I believe staying in this race will help unite the Democratic Party. I believe that if Senator Obama and I both make our case – and all Democrats have the chance to make their voices heard – everyone will be more likely to rally around the nominee.

In the end, I am committed to unifying this party. What Senator Obama and I share is so much greater than our differences; and no matter who wins this nomination, I will do everything I can to bring us together and move us forward.

But at this point, neither of us has crossed the finish line. I hope that in the time remaining, you will think hard about which candidate has the best chance to lead our party to victory in November. I hope you will consider the results of the recent primaries and what they tell us about the mindset of voters in the key battleground states. I hope you will think about the broad and winning coalition of voters I have built. And most important, I hope you will think about who is ready to stand on that stage with Senator McCain, fight for the deepest principles of our party, and lead our country forward into this new century.

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Meet the new boss, Fiendish Thingy Mar 2018 #1
Exactly right. They can't be rid of superdelegates because they refuse to be rid of superdelegates. marble falls Mar 2018 #4
Look, reducing superdelegates would actually reduce Hortensis Mar 2018 #17
for the most part, having them is anti-democratic and corrupt. yurbud Mar 2018 #21
Yurbud, a Democratic Party (!!!) candidate once Hortensis Mar 2018 #23
Lincoln was a Republican. Tactical Peek Mar 2018 #25
Lol. Glad you think so: Lincoln was a sensible LIBERAL. Hortensis Mar 2018 #26
The party of Lincoln? Yeah, that was racist too Exotica Mar 2018 #73
Notably, theRepubicans have NO great people of their Hortensis Mar 2018 #74
I in no way would call him great, and he had his own immense flaws, but IF the Republicans Exotica Mar 2018 #77
Eisenhower'd despise today's Republicans, and vice versa. Hortensis Mar 2018 #79
The Democrats during Lincoln's time were like most white males, highly prejudiced and racist. still_one Mar 2018 #81
To enlarge, clarity comes with using the words conservative Hortensis Mar 2018 #82
I agree with your entire analysis Hortensis still_one Mar 2018 #83
Wish people badmouthing our party knew this, Hortensis Mar 2018 #84
So why did Bernie Sanders agree to be one? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #45
Yurbud, are we agreed the answer is "situational ethics"? Hortensis Mar 2018 #54
Would you buy a slave if that was the only way you could free them? yurbud Mar 2018 #91
I don't agree with anyone 100% of the time. yurbud Mar 2018 #63
Convenient response to the question, though not an answer to the question. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #89
I disagree. They vote with the person with the most votes...and I would remind you that Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #93
Super delegates have never gone against the winner of the popular vote Gothmog Mar 2018 #29
Underline this! They've done well. The one time Hortensis Mar 2018 #34
Stop bringing up the 2008 primary. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #71
No need to go to 2008, the Bernie campaign tried to sway them in 2016. tammywammy Mar 2018 #72
Hillary Clinton endorsed President Obama early in June before the Texas state Democratic Convention Gothmog Mar 2018 #78
Hassin, the discussion is changes to our party rules Hortensis Mar 2018 #85
All the more reason to end their existence as voting delegates at conventions. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #51
Not in the real world Gothmog Mar 2018 #53
How do you define the term "Democrat"? Sophia4 Mar 2018 #55
Again... Bernie was one of those superdelegates that you say "uggggggh!" ehrnst Mar 2018 #57
No response yet Gothmog Mar 2018 #76
You should not use terms that you do not know the definition of Gothmog Mar 2018 #59
Damn straight. ehrnst Mar 2018 #61
That is a very narrow definition of corrupt and corruption. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #62
LOL-thank you for the laughs Gothmog Mar 2018 #69
Don't derail this discussion with facts... ehrnst Mar 2018 #80
Facts do beat silly definitions that do not support the arguments advanced Gothmog Mar 2018 #88
Thank you for an excellent post, Gothmog, and for bringing valued rationality R B Garr Mar 2018 #110
Who called "Democrats corrupt just to support one Senator"? Sophia4 Mar 2018 #116
Ive seen previous posts, though. R B Garr Mar 2018 #117
Nominations for public office should be made by the voters, decided by the voters. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #114
Again you were wrong before and you are still wrong Gothmog Mar 2018 #119
We are each entitled to his/her opinion. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #120
But such practice is not corrupt Gothmog Mar 2018 #124
It is corrupt because it places one person in a much more powerful position Sophia4 Mar 2018 #125
Again you are using a term that you do not understand Gothmog Mar 2018 #127
Super delegates at a convention that is supposed to reflect the outcome of a democratic Sophia4 Mar 2018 #128
Again, using a term that you do not understand does not help your argument Gothmog Mar 2018 #130
The definition of corrupt is much broader than that. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #115
I responded to that post to show how wrong you were in that post Gothmog Mar 2018 #118
I have explained several times that I am accusing an institution, not individuals, Sophia4 Mar 2018 #121
And you are wrong Gothmog Mar 2018 #122
You are entitled to your opinion, and I to mine. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #123
You really do not understand the process at all Gothmog Mar 2018 #126
Why do you think that Bernie participated in what you say is a "corrupt process?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #129
And his top campaign adviser helped create the system of super delegates..... George II Mar 2018 #132
Not everything is a superficial corruption rally cry. R B Garr Mar 2018 #109
Bernie was a Superdelegate. ehrnst Mar 2018 #56
We do need them or we need to restructure our primaries in order to get Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #94
Actually, super delegates were invented because the Democratic hierarchy was not Sophia4 Mar 2018 #98
I know what happened... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #101
As happened in 2016??? karynnj Mar 2018 #50
The SD rules have been in BlueMTexpat Mar 2018 #35
Bingo. Candidates who run for POTUS on a Dem ticket agree to the rules when they run. ehrnst Mar 2018 #38
There seem to be BlueMTexpat Mar 2018 #40
Well, anyone who runs as a Dem agrees to those rules. Bernie was a superdelegate ehrnst Mar 2018 #43
They only care about "perceived influence" lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #90
If I'm not mistaken, super delegates have never determined our candidate. George II Mar 2018 #2
If they have no effect, no use, why have them? marble falls Mar 2018 #5
Congressional Black Caucus: Keep superdelegate system in place Gothmog Mar 2018 #30
That article was from June 2016. Anything changed since then? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #66
The CBC is still against this proposal Gothmog Mar 2018 #67
Good.n/t MBS Mar 2018 #68
That open Supreme Court seat was known way before the R B Garr Mar 2018 #112
We have them so we can avoid a Trump like candidate and to avoid a legal mess in the event of a Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #95
Who is the Trump of the left? Unlike Republicans, we don't have brain damaged racist wing yurbud Mar 2018 #99
you can say that after 16? A whole lot of people fell for the Russian crap...and think about this... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #100
the bottom line is it's a check on democracy, and that's how Hillary used it yurbud Mar 2018 #103
What evidence is there that people voted based on the "Russia crap" yurbud Mar 2018 #104
It is pretty clear the Russians attacked our elections and tricked many into voting for Stein... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #105
Were there a lot more votes for Stein than in the past? yurbud Mar 2018 #108
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #9
How did super delegates determine the nominee? George II Mar 2018 #10
read the article INdemo Mar 2018 #14
I did, they didn't. George II Mar 2018 #16
But that's sort of close to the target. Igel Mar 2018 #12
The point I was making with this reference was INdemo Mar 2018 #15
In what way? And why would anyone have run on a Democratic ticket if ehrnst Mar 2018 #44
Disclaimer - this is NOT refighting the primary (although others apparently are), but..... George II Mar 2018 #60
The linked article cites no nomination determined by superdelegates, Tactical Peek Mar 2018 #19
the article was in March of 2016 and Hillary already had 496 Superdelegates. INdemo Mar 2018 #20
I read the damn article. Tactical Peek Mar 2018 #22
She had worked with many of them for decades. ehrnst Mar 2018 #48
Congressional Black Caucus balks at two political reforms being pitched by Bernie Sanders Gothmog Mar 2018 #31
bingo Champion Jack Mar 2018 #27
Bernie was a Superdelegate, so he knew exactly what he was signing up for ehrnst Mar 2018 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2018 #41
Not seeing where they selected the candidate - the voters did. ehrnst Mar 2018 #42
Exactly. BlueMTexpat Mar 2018 #36
Say what? ananda Mar 2018 #3
Eliminate them. CentralMass Mar 2018 #6
Black Caucus plans to defend Democrats' use of superdelegates Gothmog Mar 2018 #32
I'm surprised, I tells ya, completely bowled over!!! Javaman Mar 2018 #7
What about the caucuses? Upstate One Mar 2018 #8
Why? Igel Mar 2018 #13
Caucuses are the antithesis to the popular vote. ehrnst Mar 2018 #47
I sincerely hope so! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2018 #37
DNC once again teases with notions of reform Devil Child Mar 2018 #11
From the article cited in the OP Gothmog Mar 2018 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Mar 2018 #18
WTF is that supposed to mean? murielm99 Mar 2018 #24
Do you think he is transgender? ehrnst Mar 2018 #46
I am not surprised at this Gothmog Mar 2018 #28
If the Dems want to repair their image Catch2.2 Mar 2018 #49
So Bernie Sanders - who was a Superdelegate in 2016, was one of "the same old establishment Dems?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #58
Who is pushing for this change other than some splinter groups? Gothmog Mar 2018 #75
I don't think you understand the image problem is Hortensis Mar 2018 #86
Superdelegates introduce sanity in to counter populists, an example of which is Trump. NNadir Mar 2018 #52
" " " " n/t MBS Mar 2018 #70
If superdelegates assure that the candidate is a Demcorat question everything Mar 2018 #64
Yes. This. Thank you. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #107
Good mcar Mar 2018 #65
The funny thing is, that if they got rid of superdelegates, the winner would be clear earlier KitSileya Mar 2018 #87
The most glaring Irony is those pushing to eliminate superdelegates, GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #92
Bingo. It is not about democracy, after all R B Garr Mar 2018 #111
They are an undemocratic vestige of "smoky back rooms." alarimer Mar 2018 #96
Color me suprised nolabels Mar 2018 #97
The most important reason to KEEP superdelegates is sitting in the White House jmowreader Mar 2018 #102
Thank you! (I'm totally in favor of superdelegates... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #106
+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #134
Good... I'm still waiting for a better reason than Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #113
I know... weird, huh? NurseJackie Mar 2018 #133
No...every state would have caucuses jmowreader Mar 2018 #135
Yes, this is about Bernie's loss and tossing around the word corruption as R B Garr Mar 2018 #136
Seems like as a party we either stand for democratic principles or not. KPN Mar 2018 #131
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