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In reply to the discussion: Democrats delay change to convention superdelegates [View all]Exotica
(1,461 posts)73. The party of Lincoln? Yeah, that was racist too
https://timeline.com/party-of-lincoln-racist-23cb27089dc
In his continuing (and perhaps increasingly desperate) bid to win over black voters, Donald Trump and many other Republicans have been framing the Republican party as the party of Abraham Lincoln in recent weeks.
Its ironic that Trump is now repeating the same talking point that anti-Trump Republicans have used for months to distance Trumps bigotry from the apparently anti-racist GOP. This is the party of Lincoln, House Speaker Paul Ryan told CNN in May.
Our party was founded to defeat slavery. Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president, signed the Emancipation Proclamation, proclaimed Ted Cruz, in his less-than, non-endorsement of Trump at the RNC. Its become a rallying cry for a party desperate to claim black voters and reclaim moderate voters.
As a thumbnail indicator, the phrase party of Lincoln in The New York Times spiked to an all-time high in 2016. (The previous spike was in 1964, when Barry Goldwater was the Republican nominee.) But what if the original Party of Lincoln was not at all, in fact, the Party of Lincoln at least in the way many Americans would recognize?
Despite going down in history as the president who emancipated slaves from bondage, Lincoln and his party were not staunch advocates of black freedom and civil rights. But dont tell that to Trump and anti-Trump Republicans of 2016 vying for black voters.
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In his continuing (and perhaps increasingly desperate) bid to win over black voters, Donald Trump and many other Republicans have been framing the Republican party as the party of Abraham Lincoln in recent weeks.
Its ironic that Trump is now repeating the same talking point that anti-Trump Republicans have used for months to distance Trumps bigotry from the apparently anti-racist GOP. This is the party of Lincoln, House Speaker Paul Ryan told CNN in May.
Our party was founded to defeat slavery. Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president, signed the Emancipation Proclamation, proclaimed Ted Cruz, in his less-than, non-endorsement of Trump at the RNC. Its become a rallying cry for a party desperate to claim black voters and reclaim moderate voters.
As a thumbnail indicator, the phrase party of Lincoln in The New York Times spiked to an all-time high in 2016. (The previous spike was in 1964, when Barry Goldwater was the Republican nominee.) But what if the original Party of Lincoln was not at all, in fact, the Party of Lincoln at least in the way many Americans would recognize?
Despite going down in history as the president who emancipated slaves from bondage, Lincoln and his party were not staunch advocates of black freedom and civil rights. But dont tell that to Trump and anti-Trump Republicans of 2016 vying for black voters.
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Exactly right. They can't be rid of superdelegates because they refuse to be rid of superdelegates.
marble falls
Mar 2018
#4
I in no way would call him great, and he had his own immense flaws, but IF the Republicans
Exotica
Mar 2018
#77
The Democrats during Lincoln's time were like most white males, highly prejudiced and racist.
still_one
Mar 2018
#81
Convenient response to the question, though not an answer to the question.
LanternWaste
Mar 2018
#89
I disagree. They vote with the person with the most votes...and I would remind you that
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#93
Hillary Clinton endorsed President Obama early in June before the Texas state Democratic Convention
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#78
Thank you for an excellent post, Gothmog, and for bringing valued rationality
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#110
Nominations for public office should be made by the voters, decided by the voters.
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#114
Super delegates at a convention that is supposed to reflect the outcome of a democratic
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#128
I have explained several times that I am accusing an institution, not individuals,
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#121
Why do you think that Bernie participated in what you say is a "corrupt process?"
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#129
And his top campaign adviser helped create the system of super delegates.....
George II
Mar 2018
#132
Actually, super delegates were invented because the Democratic hierarchy was not
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#98
Bingo. Candidates who run for POTUS on a Dem ticket agree to the rules when they run.
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#38
Well, anyone who runs as a Dem agrees to those rules. Bernie was a superdelegate
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#43
We have them so we can avoid a Trump like candidate and to avoid a legal mess in the event of a
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#95
Who is the Trump of the left? Unlike Republicans, we don't have brain damaged racist wing
yurbud
Mar 2018
#99
you can say that after 16? A whole lot of people fell for the Russian crap...and think about this...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#100
It is pretty clear the Russians attacked our elections and tricked many into voting for Stein...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#105
Disclaimer - this is NOT refighting the primary (although others apparently are), but.....
George II
Mar 2018
#60
Congressional Black Caucus balks at two political reforms being pitched by Bernie Sanders
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#31
So Bernie Sanders - who was a Superdelegate in 2016, was one of "the same old establishment Dems?"
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#58
Superdelegates introduce sanity in to counter populists, an example of which is Trump.
NNadir
Mar 2018
#52
The funny thing is, that if they got rid of superdelegates, the winner would be clear earlier
KitSileya
Mar 2018
#87
The most important reason to KEEP superdelegates is sitting in the White House
jmowreader
Mar 2018
#102