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moriah

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14. No, she could still offer to give the money back...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:52 PM
Mar 2018

... in order to get them to agree it's invalid and drop their arbitration proceedings. Offers in lieu of judgment aren't uncommon.

It's most likely she'd have to give it back if a court declares the NDA invalid, anyway, or would at least make her case that it was never valid more solid if she's not trying to keep both the money and speak.

There's several ways the contract could be considered invalid now. First, that it was never valid because it wasn't signed. Second, because Trump's attorney spoke of it, he broke the terms. Third, which I'm not seeing argued yet but she should consider, that Stormy learned after the fact that the contract and the way the Cohen/Trump handled the money without reporting it constituted a violation of election finance laws, and she doesn't want to be part of an illegal contract (illegal contracts are always void).

Usually people will start with grounds to establish the contract was never fully entered into (the not signed part), then go with "in the alternative" arguments.

For example, a friend was sued by a debt collector who didn't obey state law by attaching either the cardmember agreement or an affidavit stating it was unavailable. His attorney filed a motion to dismiss based on insufficient process, a motion for a more definite statement (giving them 10 days to amend to add the cardmember agreement if the judge decided not to dismiss), and a generic answer in case the judge rejected both motions. Potentially overkill, except that they bit on responding to both Motions and admitted the documents had been available but requested more than the 10 days because it was in another office. His attorney said their response admitting they could have gotten the documents before filing meant the process was officially insufficient. And thus got the dismissal, even if the evidence for the dismissal came in their response to the MDS motion.

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Interesting that they propose "an account of Trump's choosing" Hav Mar 2018 #1
Wow...I was worried that Cohen would lose his house - so generous of Stormy! Sancho Mar 2018 #2
tRump should eagerly agree, since he's already stated there was no affair. ffr Mar 2018 #3
Win/win keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #9
Word is that the $130K was illegally paid out of campaign funds which is violation of federal iluvtennis Mar 2018 #4
Smart Bayard Mar 2018 #5
Are you kidding? DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #6
Even if he says no, he'd be admitting to the affair. Orsino Mar 2018 #11
My friends, this is what we call a "Lose/Lose". For Trump, of course. Rainbow Droid Mar 2018 #7
Yes and it's good that his lawyers are so stupid also FakeNoose Mar 2018 #12
Adds more and more credibility Maxheader Mar 2018 #8
Wait bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #10
She took the money and has acted as if the agreement was in effect Calista241 Mar 2018 #13
I still want to see her argue... moriah Mar 2018 #16
Shell have to prove where the funds came from. Calista241 Mar 2018 #19
If you read the agreement (available in many places online)... SeattleVet Mar 2018 #18
But if Dumpster goes after her for violating the agreement, he admits to the affair gyroscope Mar 2018 #20
No, she could still offer to give the money back... moriah Mar 2018 #14
This is why I'm not a lawyer bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #15
The best part? All this back and forth.... machoneman Mar 2018 #17
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