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Mike Nelson

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87. I saw a CNN...

Sun Mar 18, 2018, 02:10 PM

Mar 2018

...panel discuss this topic... this morning. they all disapproved of Hillary's "wrong" comments. I can't quote exactly, but I was clear about what Hillary meant... she did not mean to say everyone in certain US states was deplorable/racist/whatever... she meant there were areas in the country and groups of people who voted their fear/hate. These bigots are the same people who march with KKK-like torches and chant "Jews will not replace us!" There are no "very nice people" in this group. Hillary was correct about these people still existing, here in the US, in 2018. The media should speak about this group more often. We should not ignore the existence of the "deplorables" - they are Trump's most loyal fans. These people are not the same as all Trump voters; nobody is saying that... not sure why this is so difficult to understand.

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Durbin: Hillary Clinton 'is wrong' about Trump voters [View all] DonViejo Mar 2018 OP

Why do you repeatedly post articles that are critical of Clinton and Democrats? George II Mar 2018 #1

If you think that's what I'm doing, then I cordially invite you to put me on ignore. DonViejo Mar 2018 #7

So I guess you're not going to answer. I don't "ignore", that's running from reality. George II Mar 2018 #8

I did answer you; it's not my fault you can't discern it. Please put me on ignore. DonViejo Mar 2018 #10

I can't discern it either. Please explain. lunamagica Mar 2018 #63

Time to put up or shut up George II... DonViejo Mar 2018 #118

Dick Durbin is a Democrat melman Mar 2018 #19

No one said it "shouldn't be reported" (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #41

Well that's where you're wrong melman Mar 2018 #44

Here we go again, where did "The poster was clearly saying it shouldn't be posted here"? George II Mar 2018 #46

What would you know? You're just the person who actually posted. ehrnst Mar 2018 #47

Indeed. George II Mar 2018 #48

What absolute nonsense melman Mar 2018 #100

Makes absolute sense. ehrnst Mar 2018 #102

Did you not indicate your displeasure in this being posted? melman Mar 2018 #101

Did I say it shouldn't have been posted? That's what you first claimed I did. I didn't. George II Mar 2018 #105

Is asking about the motives they have the same as saying that they should not post? ehrnst Mar 2018 #106

I have the same response for you and your allegations that I've provided to George II... DonViejo Mar 2018 #119

I made no allegations. I pointed out that George didn't say you shouldn't post something. ehrnst Mar 2018 #123

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #125

??? ehrnst Mar 2018 #126

In what way do I "put up?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #133

Of course melman Mar 2018 #149

Your accusation doesn't stand up under that scrutiny. ehrnst Mar 2018 #150

Not an accusation melman Mar 2018 #151

Like I said, accusation. ehrnst Mar 2018 #155

Amazing how you can't let this go melman Mar 2018 #158

Amazing how you can't let this go ehrnst Mar 2018 #159

This is really getting sad now melman Mar 2018 #160

Isn't it? ehrnst Mar 2018 #161

Yeah it really is melman Mar 2018 #162

Facts are a thing with me. Always have been. ehrnst Mar 2018 #163

Okay melman Mar 2018 #164

Well, that's your opinion. ehrnst Mar 2018 #165

No it's not melman Mar 2018 #166

Keep on repeating that. ehrnst Mar 2018 #167

Who said I was bothered melman Mar 2018 #168

Your continued participation in this "ridiculous routine" ehrnst Mar 2018 #170

Nope melman Mar 2018 #173

Yep. It takes two to make a "routine." ehrnst Mar 2018 #175

The fact is that you twice claimed I said two specific things that I never said. George II Mar 2018 #182

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #103

I too see a pattern FarPoint Mar 2018 #34

Where is the pattern? CentralMass Mar 2018 #81

My response to your visionary experience is... DonViejo Mar 2018 #120

Don Viejo posts many articles EVERY day about MANY, many topics. pangaia Mar 2018 #56

+1 SixString Mar 2018 #59

Agree DJ is a treasure. But lately the Hill has been spinning things in a way bettyellen Mar 2018 #88

Interesting. About the comments part pangaia Mar 2018 #93

There are RW efforts to blanket the Internet in bullshit, for sure. But Ive noticed lately the bettyellen Mar 2018 #94

You've noticed that, too? obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #60

The interview was eleven minutes long. George II Mar 2018 #64

I make it a habit to not watch Faux but dug up the link. CentralMass Mar 2018 #89

I already found the video (that's how I knew the interview was 11 minutes). It covered.... George II Mar 2018 #98

So, do you think it changes The intent of what was quoted? CentralMass Mar 2018 #99

For my response to you... DonViejo Mar 2018 #121

Because not to is sticking our heads in the sand question everything Mar 2018 #73

Dick Durbin is a tenured, respected Democrat who also happens to be our Senate Minority Whip CentralMass Mar 2018 #74

I think that you are mischaracterizing DonViejo's posts. CentralMass Mar 2018 #77

Should this just be a cheerleading forum where we post press releases from yurbud Mar 2018 #78

Durbin is a fine Democrat!!!! ollie10 Mar 2018 #127

How the bleep is she wrong? They voted for him right? nt BootinUp Mar 2018 #2

Even if she's right MichMary Mar 2018 #21

They wouldn't vote their mortal enemies The Wizard Mar 2018 #55

She was writing off entire sections of our country ollie10 Mar 2018 #80

She is a private citizen, unfettered and voicing an opinion BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #156

So you are saying we should write off WI and MI and PA? ollie10 Mar 2018 #171

Seriously...you can say that? BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #177

Not all people who voted for Trump are deplorables ollie10 Mar 2018 #183

But she didn't say that about them - she said it about the DT using that messaging ehrnst Mar 2018 #136

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #138

Well, you have your mind made up, clearly. ehrnst Mar 2018 #140

LOL, Won't anyone think about the deplorables? FSogol Mar 2018 #144

Sorry Dick, Hillary is 100% correct comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #3

Well, exactly. LisaL Mar 2018 #11

And people who DO want to run again MichMary Mar 2018 #22

Republicans And Trump Supporters Are Scum PaulX2 Mar 2018 #30

Are you from an overwhelming MichMary Mar 2018 #33

Nonsense. mahina Mar 2018 #68

You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. LisaL Mar 2018 #67

Who wants flies? GeorgeGist Mar 2018 #82

LOL!!! (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #132

Because many they talk to will have swallowed the misrepresentation of what she said. ehrnst Mar 2018 #157

You mean the ones who chanted "lock her up" Botany Mar 2018 #4

Deplorable Scum PaulX2 Mar 2018 #31

I was just on a short vacation in Western MD and I drove through S.W. PA Botany Mar 2018 #36

Some folks have more in common with them than others. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #104

Which folks? melman Mar 2018 #148

Exactly. LisaM Mar 2018 #52

Sorry Senator, Hillary was/is correct Va Lefty Mar 2018 #5

OH, NOES! Two democrats with different opinions! rgbecker Mar 2018 #6

Imagine THAT! elleng Mar 2018 #9

Time to pass the torch left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #12

Hillary got the votes of those with economic anxiety. ehrnst Mar 2018 #42

Dick, if you think we want their deplorable votes Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #13

The fact is we lost, despite a terrible Republican candidate with huge negatives. thesquanderer Mar 2018 #14

No, we do not need to reach out to these people Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #15

As far as we know, Russians influenced voters but did not change the tallies on the machines. thesquanderer Mar 2018 #37

It's absurd to think that Russsia interfiered, but didn't change the tallies in the machine lunamagica Mar 2018 #66

How would that be done...vote tallies? AncientGeezer Mar 2018 #107

How would I know? I'm not a Russian operative. It's just comming sense lunamagica Mar 2018 #110

Have a look at this article- How Hackers Broke Into U.S. Voting Machines in Less Than 2 Hours diva77 Mar 2018 #112

I meant alter the numbers in the machines, so that they differed from the votes that were cast. thesquanderer Mar 2018 #135

you did do that rockfordfile Mar 2018 #113

Of course influencing voters affects the vote. That was my point! thesquanderer Mar 2018 #131

Very much disagree. lark Mar 2018 #18

I know people who still defend their Trump vote, but not out of hate... thesquanderer Mar 2018 #39

They saw him as "flawed"? GMAB. The man embodies practically everything that is evil lunamagica Mar 2018 #69

re: "They all knew who they were voting for. " thesquanderer Mar 2018 #134

Yes, many were willing to ignore his racism because Democrats ehrnst Mar 2018 #143

No, we didn't "lose" WinstonSmith4740 Mar 2018 #20

That "antiquated method" MichMary Mar 2018 #29

We lost because people are afraid of the boogey man. nt BootinUp Mar 2018 #23

Yep. The Repukes create a boogeyman and Orange Free State Mar 2018 #72

I know of many that harbor those sentiments... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2018 #17

K&R. To re-use some very famous words... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #117

Outnumbering them nationally MichMary Mar 2018 #24

And who suggested we should shame the Trump voters for the midterms? Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #26

This thread is about Durbin MichMary Mar 2018 #28

Did anyone suggest to him that he say that? ehrnst Mar 2018 #43

It's pretty much implied here in this thread MichMary Mar 2018 #49

Where? ehrnst Mar 2018 #53

Here's one: MichMary Mar 2018 #75

OK. One. And that person is saying that IF THEY run for office ehrnst Mar 2018 #90

Of course you're right MichMary Mar 2018 #92

It doesn't seem that way to me. ehrnst Mar 2018 #96

HRC Steviehh Mar 2018 #16

AAAAAaaaaand???? n/t MichMary Mar 2018 #25

No cancer, though. ehrnst Mar 2018 #45

I'm curious why you posted completely wrong information here in this thread. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #50

You think? And you believe it is OK to spead rumors around? lunamagica Mar 2018 #70

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-injury-hospital-jodhpur-india/ George II Mar 2018 #84

She's not wrong, but she can't sell it. MissMillie Mar 2018 #27

Repuicans stole the election Cary Mar 2018 #32

"Republicans stole the election." LenaBaby61 Mar 2018 #108

She was going to win in a landslide had it not been for the bogus actions of James Comey. StevieM Mar 2018 #61

From the weenie who bawled on the senate floor and begged Bush to forgive him radliberal Mar 2018 #35

First of all, this is far from LBM. For the last week a lot of folks seem to be getting their still_one Mar 2018 #38

Yes, I'm curious why this is in LBN, too. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #51

That is why we read the national enquirer, inquiring minds want to know, no? still_one Mar 2018 #65

No, Dick, she wasn't. ehrnst Mar 2018 #40

Dick Durbin didn't learn much from the last presidential election WhiteTara Mar 2018 #54

Sen Durbin is wrong Gothmog Mar 2018 #57

Mostly interesting for the moving on aspect BeyondGeography Mar 2018 #58

Durbin was asked the question and the question was asked because Hillary recently commented on it. CentralMass Mar 2018 #91

I agree with Durbin! denvine Mar 2018 #62

That only makes sense. CentralMass Mar 2018 #79

She didn't say they were all deplorable. Just half. And she apologized and took it back. StevieM Mar 2018 #109

They have been after Hillary since she was First Lady! denvine Mar 2018 #115

Hillary was right lunamagica Mar 2018 #71

This is gonna be tough for the Glamrock Mar 2018 #76

You would think melman Mar 2018 #83

Ain't that the truth... Glamrock Mar 2018 #86

They are both right. Nitram Mar 2018 #85

I saw a CNN... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #87

Hillary is running again?!?!?!? tavernier Mar 2018 #95

I know. And "neutralizing" HRC is so much more urgent than ehrnst Mar 2018 #97

And others think attacking Trump supporters is much more urgent than winning in 2020 ollie10 Mar 2018 #128

You mean.... what people here on DU say is SO influencial in elections... ehrnst Mar 2018 #129

If you want to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory..... ollie10 Mar 2018 #141

"make our past candidates god-heads" ehrnst Mar 2018 #145

So what mistakes do YOU think we should correct? ollie10 Mar 2018 #146

Are we still talking about Hillary's India speech? ehrnst Mar 2018 #147

It was an open ended question ollie10 Mar 2018 #153

My questions to you were not open ended. ehrnst Mar 2018 #154

OK. Have a good day ollie10 Mar 2018 #169

Thought so. Have a good day ehrnst Mar 2018 #172

+1000 stranger81 Mar 2018 #180

when the right wing tosses insults DonCoquixote Mar 2018 #111

Would really appreciate a link to the Clinton speech Durbin was asked about greatlaurel Mar 2018 #114

Sorry shellyleit Mar 2018 #116

Here you go: ehrnst Mar 2018 #130

Thanks, I was looking for a transcript of the entire speech. I found the video at India Today greatlaurel Mar 2018 #137

It's called "the Clinton Rules" in media... ehrnst Mar 2018 #139

Exactly. greatlaurel Mar 2018 #142

Maybe not helpful, but certainly not wrong. n/t Orsino Mar 2018 #122

This is the "old guard" mentality, that running Republican Lite campaigns will win the elections Tarc Mar 2018 #124

Dude. Can be confusing when it drifts to Latest Threads Jakes Progress Mar 2018 #152

It's the Latest Breaking News Forum. SixString Mar 2018 #176

The idea that a candidate can call millions of voters deplorable is astonishing. jalan48 Mar 2018 #174

Those f....king deplorable morons we're never going to vote Dem. BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #178

In HRC's speech at the India Today Conclave 2018. she did not use the word deplorable once. greatlaurel Mar 2018 #179

Calling people names is not an effective political strategy IMHO jalan48 Mar 2018 #181