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3. Maybe get five justices to reevaluate

Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:08 AM

Mar 2018

that amendment. They never can answer why a line is ever drawn with their arguments. The logical conclusion from their arguments is that any weapon that can be personally fired is covered by the 2nd Amendment. Automatic weapons, RPGs, Hand held missiles.

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Former Supreme Court justice: 'Repeal the Second Amendment' [View all] highplainsdem Mar 2018 OP

Gun nuts always ignore the central clause: "a well regulated militia" lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #1

Maybe get five justices to reevaluate exboyfil Mar 2018 #3

Repealing the 2A would not change anything hack89 Mar 2018 #9

More like wide and deep lobbying by gun nuts Major Nikon Mar 2018 #52

Politician fear one thing and that is voters. hack89 Mar 2018 #54

Sure, the $54 million spent in 2016 made no difference whatsoever Major Nikon Mar 2018 #63

And why can't the gun control lobby raise that kind of cash? hack89 Mar 2018 #68

So first it wasn't about the money, but now it is Major Nikon Mar 2018 #70

It is both. I just wanted to address your concerns hack89 Mar 2018 #76

Its pretty naive to assume money doesnt play a huge part Major Nikon Mar 2018 #85

Money equates to votes. hack89 Mar 2018 #87

Sure, all gun control needs are some Russian billionaires Major Nikon Mar 2018 #88

No. They need to learn from Planned Parenthood hack89 Mar 2018 #92

Gun control isnt a civil rights issue Major Nikon Mar 2018 #93

So people care about gun control but not enough to actually change anything? hack89 Mar 2018 #95

I just think its pretty silly to compare the two Major Nikon Mar 2018 #96

You are just rationalizing failure hack89 Mar 2018 #97

Because we won't take funds from foreign sources DBoon Mar 2018 #84

Neither does Planned Parenthood yet they are able to keep up with the NRA hack89 Mar 2018 #86

...to the point where those words are Grins Mar 2018 #24

Guess what they don't allow into their headquarters? (good guess!) erronis Mar 2018 #61

Which is not a prescriptive clause... malthaussen Mar 2018 #32

People who wish to eliminate gun rights former9thward Mar 2018 #34

Would love to hear your version of what it meant in 1789. It seems pretty clear to me, and Hoyt Mar 2018 #35

I have never seen your version in any of the documents of the time. former9thward Mar 2018 #39

That's what you get for relying on gunner junk. Gun sites are almost always white wing, and quite Hoyt Mar 2018 #43

I see no one doing so... LanternWaste Mar 2018 #74

here, I will help you out: EX500rider Mar 2018 #90

Thank you. But, I'll take Justice Stevens, historians, and legal scholars to gun supporters and Hoyt Mar 2018 #94

Do you agree with his opinion in Texas v Johnson? Marengo Mar 2018 #102

Okay, Ported_Maryjoseph Mar 2018 #113

Well, the issues wouldn't really remain. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #60

You are mixing apples and oranges. former9thward Mar 2018 #66

I believe the Constitution of the U S is controlling and primary to state constitutions, Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #100

The Federal Constitution sets the minum standard hack89 Mar 2018 #107

Repealing the second amendment would not remove the right. X_Digger Mar 2018 #98

I see what you're saying. But what those rights might be would be open to interpretation. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #101

I'm just trying to reverse the 'the BoR grants..' thinking. X_Digger Mar 2018 #103

We have always celebrated the rule of law, not the rule of opinion. lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #106

Yep. Even removed from NRA HQ edifice! The key is those words and Fred Sanders Mar 2018 #57

or really drive them nuts and just repeal the part after the comma. yurbud Mar 2018 #89

Gun nuts either ignore the militia clause or misinterpret it to refer to militias that are Nitram Mar 2018 #108

Yeah, I don't think the Founding Fathers intended to create another rebellion lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #111

The militia clause referred to militias formed to put down rebellions against the government. Nitram Mar 2018 #112

Couldnt agree more. We need to repeal the 2A. It is antiquated and harmful. LonePirate Mar 2018 #2

"Repeal the Second Amendment" is already trending on Twitter: highplainsdem Mar 2018 #4

Wow bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #5

now we have open carry, concealed carry, campus carry - everywhere carry onetexan Mar 2018 #36

Yes it's been deliberately misinterpreted for too long FakeNoose Mar 2018 #6

Repealing 2A is a campaign that everyone can understand. I'm in. Girard442 Mar 2018 #7

"Oh I use it for hunting, um, squirrels!" gay texan Mar 2018 #73

Tweet from Nick Kristof on this: highplainsdem Mar 2018 #8

Oped endorsed by Remington hack89 Mar 2018 #10

As Nick Kristof said in a tweet I quoted above, this could result in a lot more gun sales. highplainsdem Mar 2018 #14

WOW hlthe2b Mar 2018 #11

Exactly! n/t Brainstormy Mar 2018 #12

Yes. Yes. YES. I've been thinking this for decades. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #13

Why not just overturn the Heller decision? Lonestarblue Mar 2018 #15

Great suggestion mainstreetonce Mar 2018 #50

Heller decision - Wikipedia erronis Mar 2018 #64

"What we need is a Supreme Court that will return to the interpretation that stood for 200 years" EX500rider Mar 2018 #110

Whether or not the Second Amendment gets repealed this is a brilliant bargaining strategy. jalan48 Mar 2018 #16

Agree. It makes gun control measures look like the moderate regulations they are. highplainsdem Mar 2018 #17

Yes, it lets them know playing around the edges of the problem is not an option. jalan48 Mar 2018 #22

Exactly DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #40

Which means you are either not serious about repealing or about negotiating. hack89 Mar 2018 #42

You can be serious about both. Restrictions will be set by our legislative bodies. I assume jalan48 Mar 2018 #47

Gun owners don't fear repeal of the 2A hack89 Mar 2018 #51

Do you think the position put forth by this former Supreme Court Justice is "hard line"? jalan48 Mar 2018 #62

You can reject honest negotiations if you think you have the political power to steamroll gun owners hack89 Mar 2018 #67

Compromise is fine and barring a repeal that's what we will have. jalan48 Mar 2018 #69

"Expectation of capitulation to their desires" - You just broke my irony meter hack89 Mar 2018 #77

So who has been doing the capitulation since the mass shootings began? Gun owners? NRA? jalan48 Mar 2018 #78

Neither side is capitulating. hack89 Mar 2018 #79

I agree and I'm going to educate as many people as I can about Justice Stevens remarks. jalan48 Mar 2018 #81

There need be no negotiations if that is the standard of negotiations Calista241 Mar 2018 #104

I hope Justice Stevens has a high tolerance for insults and death threats. Paladin Mar 2018 #18

Some people become fearless with age. Stevens is apparently one of them. highplainsdem Mar 2018 #19

He will be 98 years old next month BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #23

Well this outta go well vercetti2021 Mar 2018 #20

About that "well-regulated militia?" yallerdawg Mar 2018 #21

Hmm. Laurence Tribe says this is "AWFUL advice." Tweet: highplainsdem Mar 2018 #25

I have noticed that Laurence Tribe is NOT "We the People" nolabels Mar 2018 #80

the second amendment must be read in its entiraty AllaN01Bear Mar 2018 #26

Conservative Washington Times hysteria: "It's SCOTUS, meet Iran." highplainsdem Mar 2018 #27

I'm with Justice Stevens. leanforward Mar 2018 #28

Cameron Kasky tweet, minutes ago: highplainsdem Mar 2018 #29

No restrictions? That being the case, why cant I purchase an M249 at the local Walmart? Marengo Mar 2018 #105

I'd like to see another constitutional convention to redo the electoral college &gerrymandering also AdamGG Mar 2018 #30

I agree the Heller decision has been a disaster. nt HopeAgain Mar 2018 #31

I don't see a need to repeal it... malthaussen Mar 2018 #33

Stevens' dissent in Heller -- joined by three other Justices -- is really worth reading. Hoyt Mar 2018 #37

Chris Hayes agrees with you: highplainsdem Mar 2018 #59

2A might be one way we can be sure the Koch goal of a constitutional convention never happens. ancianita Mar 2018 #38

Democrats are trying their hardest to ensure Republicans stay in control forever Snake Plissken Mar 2018 #41

So it's our fault that a Republican former OliverQ Mar 2018 #45

First of all, Stevens is a Republican, appointed to the SC by a Republican. Second of all, highplainsdem Mar 2018 #46

What a bad idea this is right now. docgee Mar 2018 #44

Bingo. Snake Plissken Mar 2018 #48

This is something one would expect the Russian Troll Factory to exploit. Marcuse Mar 2018 #55

At the least, a rewrite. Loge23 Mar 2018 #49

Response to Stevens from NRA TV: highplainsdem Mar 2018 #53

Gun nuts are going crazy over this. OliverQ Mar 2018 #58

Those gun nuts were already crazy, and anyone that moronic wouldn't vote for Dems anyway. highplainsdem Mar 2018 #65

I'm just hoping people don't freak out and stop supporting Dems in mid-terms OliverQ Mar 2018 #71

Joy Reid tweet about this: highplainsdem Mar 2018 #56

repeal the 2nd pamdb Mar 2018 #72

I've said before and I'll say it again grumpyduck Mar 2018 #75

I hope there are no "unintended consequences" of pushing this. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #82

at the very least it needs to be rewritten so gun humping idiots can understand Skittles Mar 2018 #83

Here's all it would take: EX500rider Mar 2018 #91

I agree floWteiuQ Mar 2018 #99

He is doing what most elected Democrats don't: yurbud Mar 2018 #109