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Nac Mac Feegle

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42. I am not an expert
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 04:21 PM
Apr 2018

But I have a LOT of experience dealing with Failure Modes of equipment.

Initial reports are that it happened during / shortly after takeoff, when the engine is at the most power setting of the trip. Fully fueled, full passenger and luggage complement requires a lot of power to get airborne. A micro-crack in the turbine blade from ingesting a bird or large bug or small piece of debris or just age. When the turbine (literally, in this case) grenades, there's a containment ring that's supposed to contain the shrapnel. But if there's enough shrapnel with enough energy, something can get past it. If it's going toward the fuselage, in this case the window, shit's going to get Really Interesting really fast.

The pilot and crew have to Keep Their Shit Together to get the aircraft on the ground on one piece, which is something it sounds like they did quite well.

This is a tragedy for the family of the woman that was In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time. Of course it was, and anyone that says any different deserves the strongest condemnation.

But it could have been so much worse. See the above mentioned Hawaii Airlines flight.

The Engineering for the possibility of such a failure as this can account for almost all contingencies, but sooner or later, that "one in a million" event is going to happen.

Then we have an incident like this.

Maybe it could have been prevented: Maybe Deregulation leads to outsourcing of maintenance, and someone misses something. Maybe something is dropped on the runway. Maybe a bird takes a left instead of a right. We don't know yet. The NTSB will do its' damnedest to find out.

There's no profit in "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" the incident. Meanwhile, we can bury the dear departed and do our best to console the survivors. We have to let the Experts do their jobs to figure out what happened, Then we make sure something like this doesn't happen again. Out of respect for those whom we have lost.

Sometimes lessons come at a high cost. We have to make sure that payment is not wasted.

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I've always said there should not be windows in airplanes. pangaia Apr 2018 #1
Yeah, because this happens all the time, right? PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2018 #6
I have experienced being inside a blank tube, not knowing at all where you are. Glorfindel Apr 2018 #25
Sounds like my flight from King Fahd to KKMC in 1991. Aristus Apr 2018 #36
Flat panel screens could be used instead, and probably a better experience. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #28
It was a freakin' joke. pangaia Apr 2018 #34
pangaia, that's an extreme reaction to an extremely rare event. and the woman survived. Nitram Apr 2018 #11
jeeze.. did NOBODY even see my post was a joke. pangaia Apr 2018 #33
Um, I guess not. Nitram Apr 2018 #47
:) "I have always said that" if you have to explain a joke... Hortensis Apr 2018 #68
This is no joke... pangaia Apr 2018 #70
No, she didn't make it. LisaL Apr 2018 #58
Sadly, she didn't. moriah Apr 2018 #72
Airlines would love windowless fuselages... Maxheader Apr 2018 #23
Wow jpak Apr 2018 #2
The iconic image of all time! yallerdawg Apr 2018 #14
Goldfinger looks positively......Trumpian! machoneman Apr 2018 #17
In case one wonders about the reference packman Apr 2018 #30
I thought of the same thing. Orange Free State Apr 2018 #39
Thinking of the last Alien movie where it gets sucked out through a small hole. keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #40
Classic central scrutinizer Apr 2018 #51
No, no, no. Igel Apr 2018 #48
Eeeeeeeeeek! Nightmare become reality Achilleaze Apr 2018 #3
Could've been worse sakabatou Apr 2018 #8
I just looked it up. Dave Starsky Apr 2018 #29
I will take the aisle seat please BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #4
and with the engines behind me. melm00se Apr 2018 #5
Actually, the safest place in a crash is the very rear of the plane. Nitram Apr 2018 #12
Yeah, in the back you'll live about 1/2 second longer! n/m machoneman Apr 2018 #20
Remember Lost?... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2018 #41
No, if there are survivors, they are usually sitting in the back of the plane. Nitram Apr 2018 #46
Au contraire. Igel Apr 2018 #49
I never choose the center or the window because they make me claustrophobic ailsagirl Apr 2018 #22
That is why... Toorich Apr 2018 #7
WIth that sort of explosive decompression... regnaD kciN Apr 2018 #61
Seatbelts are designed and certified for that purpose Major Nikon Apr 2018 #74
Here are images of the damaged engine and broken window Mr. Sparkle Apr 2018 #9
Damn! paleotn Apr 2018 #15
Turbine shattered? Igel Apr 2018 #50
It surely sucked in some crap it wasn't designed for. paleotn Apr 2018 #56
No, the fan Major Nikon Apr 2018 #75
Well, kudos to the pilot who managed to land that partial plane! Wwcd Apr 2018 #26
A female pilot and one of the first female Navy jet fighter pilots DeminPennswoods Apr 2018 #82
☺👗💟 Yes... Wwcd Apr 2018 #83
How much got through zipplewrath Apr 2018 #79
Engine threw a fan blade DeminPennswoods Apr 2018 #81
Window damage... brooklynite Apr 2018 #10
Jets were the luxurious version of parachuting in the Army because of the easy exit. braddy Apr 2018 #13
I'll stick to walking. snort Apr 2018 #16
ALWAYS Always always sdfernando Apr 2018 #18
I always keep my seatbelt on even if the captain says we can loosen it. Grammy23 Apr 2018 #24
How terrifying ailsagirl Apr 2018 #19
Lost the entire turbine blade assembly and cowling! Holy cow, that's a major blowup. machoneman Apr 2018 #21
Yeah...usually when they hear that big BANG related to an engine... Bengus81 Apr 2018 #31
No, it did NOT lose "the entire turbine blade assembly"... regnaD kciN Apr 2018 #62
It almost certainly did keep it mostly contained Major Nikon Apr 2018 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author PoliticAverse Apr 2018 #27
Damn I thought I was having a rough day. nt Abu Pepe Apr 2018 #32
Is Trump's pilot investigating ? rickford66 Apr 2018 #35
Chairman of the NTSB just announced one fatality. n/t spiderpig Apr 2018 #37
YES, there WAS a FATALITY Ukrainian Yankee Apr 2018 #43
Passenger Named SoCalMusicLover Apr 2018 #53
Thank You for Confirming Ukrainian Yankee Apr 2018 #55
I once sat across from a passenger letting her kid do that DFW Apr 2018 #38
Holy shit RhodeIslandOne Apr 2018 #45
So was I. So was the airline staff. DFW Apr 2018 #60
Was this before 9/11? ansible Apr 2018 #66
I believe so. DFW Apr 2018 #67
The irony is if that window did get broken, the kid would have been the first to go out of it. LisaL Apr 2018 #57
That occurred to me DFW Apr 2018 #59
Or she would have blamed and sued the airline christx30 Apr 2018 #65
Double paned zipplewrath Apr 2018 #80
I am not an expert Nac Mac Feegle Apr 2018 #42
When Herb K ran Southwest gay texan Apr 2018 #64
JESUS... Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #44
Video Report on Her Death Ukrainian Yankee Apr 2018 #52
Im sticking with Amtrak. lkinwi Apr 2018 #54
To put this in perspective... regnaD kciN Apr 2018 #63
Seriously. Thanks for posting some sanity. nt a la izquierda Apr 2018 #71
If a friend dies in a car accident, I'm not going to walk to the funeral Major Nikon Apr 2018 #76
Makes me never want to fly again. Vinca Apr 2018 #69
Trump is responsible for the death of a woman Cold War Spook Apr 2018 #73
No, Trump is as divine as Jesus Major Nikon Apr 2018 #77
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