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51. Are you saying that deducting what he tithed would make the church just as unhappy

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:37 PM

Aug 2012

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as tithing less than ten percent before taxes?

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Romney says his Mormon tithing shouldn�t be public [why he won't release his tax returns] [View all] maddezmom Aug 2012 OP

If he didn't want the information public.... Sedona Aug 2012 #1

And atreides1 Aug 2012 #6

Ha, good one!!!!! get the red out Aug 2012 #28

This is like the guy in the job interview: what's your worst failing? pnwmom Aug 2012 #57

Would not mind if he gave all of his $225 million to the church , as long as he pays his taxes. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #86

We don't *know* that. Perhaps he doesn't give 10%, or perhaps the calculation is odd... CreekDog Aug 2012 #146

and tithing isn't really charity is it? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #151

I think that he is hiding from the LDS. He doesn't want the LDS to find out how much he made. Vincardog Aug 2012 #96

That was my first thought...besides romney's full of shit. Cha Aug 2012 #104

True, but Cosmocat Aug 2012 #107

i'm mittens damnit ... i don't have to tell you anything ... hip is everything Aug 2012 #113

well he could have kept it private by not telling the irs about it in the first place. unblock Aug 2012 #2

That's interesting. At this point, the argument becomes, Mitt, it appears you purposefully disclosed truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #7

you mean to create a large tax exemption..... robinlynne Aug 2012 #40

Well, we know that he also got a large tax exemption. truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #58

We also know he's spent his life managing tax avoidance schemes for both himself and others wordpix Aug 2012 #105

what I mean is, if he was giving he money to god, he didn't need to take it as a tax deduction...... robinlynne Aug 2012 #144

+1 - It's between God and me except when I want a tax exemption! hedgehog Aug 2012 #59

+1 UpInArms Aug 2012 #94

Very good point. enough Aug 2012 #116

Yeppers VWolf Aug 2012 #71

Wow. First he used his wife as a shield on this issue. Now his religion. truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #3

It keeps coming back to that BlueStreak Aug 2012 #20

Reason 2 Roy Rolling Aug 2012 #34

I don't buy that BlueStreak Aug 2012 #49

Not so matt819 Aug 2012 #69

I care about the residency issue - it would have been voter fraud muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #72

Oh man Scairp Aug 2012 #121

Residency is determined by where you pay your taxes. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #148

Yeah, that was so believable. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #152

Yep...that's what I think too... Karmasue Aug 2012 #153

Fine. Produce the returns with those lines redacted. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #4

He won't do that either The Second Stone Aug 2012 #16

Yes, of course. But the O campaign needs to make that offer, and I bet they do. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #29

Exactly the right move matt819 Aug 2012 #70

I suspect some of the charity giving is problematic for Willard. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #124

That's b/c his church will see that he and his wife shorted them by a lot, just like they Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #5

+1! Bozita Aug 2012 #12

Yes, cuts both ways against Rmoney. But that's only his public reason. He has others. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #21

Are you saying that deducting what he tithed would make the church just as unhappy rocktivity Aug 2012 #51

No Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #56

Well, if the church would not be offended by his deducting the tithing rocktivity Aug 2012 #64

Yeah, did he tithe 10% of those 'capital gains'? hamsterjill Aug 2012 #47

It's probably the only charitable giving deduction he has. That's why he wants to keep it quiet livetohike Aug 2012 #8

The bishop didn't contribute 10%, did he? jsr Aug 2012 #9

wait, so it's a very private thing for 2008 and 2009, but a public thing for 2010 and 2011? unblock Aug 2012 #10

That's the first thing I thought, too. cyberswede Aug 2012 #25

THANK YOU renate Aug 2012 #127

I'm glad he brought this up. reflection Aug 2012 #11

I'm afraid that ship has sailed. He either has to face the facts or the speculation. nolabear Aug 2012 #13

Probably because they got more than the IRS did nilram Aug 2012 #14

+1 proud patriot Aug 2012 #24

TOO FUCKING BAD , SHOULDA THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU RAN, AND I THINK YOU'RE AFRAID THE CHURCH Happyhippychick Aug 2012 #15

I supposed that Obama's minions FORCED him to take the deduction. IggleDoer Aug 2012 #17

But if tithing is suppose to be a % of your income, and he wont tell anyone WHAT that income was benld74 Aug 2012 #18

I call total BS CanonRay Aug 2012 #19

He either shouldn't have claimed it, or he should have not gone into politics then. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #22

yes it was and his dad was a good man madrchsod Aug 2012 #91

LLPOF Should be in front of everything Mitt says... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #23

Fine. Redact that part and release the returns. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #26

If he wants a GUBMINT TAX BREAK for his tithing, then it damn well SHOULD be public. MADem Aug 2012 #27

...and if the Mormons DISAPPROVE of high-ranking members taking tax breaks rocktivity Aug 2012 #99

He's scrambling get the red out Aug 2012 #30

Didn't Harry Reid release his returns? Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #31

Exactly. LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #80

Now, wait just a fucking xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #32

Tithing The Wizard Aug 2012 #33

A thousand recommends!!! As a born and raised - and now recovered - mormon, I am constantly... Raster Aug 2012 #46

It IS a Business! bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #103

Right on! Yep, more than a business, and you are right, the goal IS WORLD DOMINATION. Raster Aug 2012 #137

Maybe its because he didnt give his 10% to the church? That would kinda be embarrassing. nt cstanleytech Aug 2012 #35

the church is probably tithing to him 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #36

I don't think that is the reason, at all. I think it is something PERSONAL and I bet our President Tikki Aug 2012 #37

The amount he gave to the church is a moot point anyway... Sivafae Aug 2012 #38

No, the logic is sound if he "didn't" give the church the % he was supposed to because cstanleytech Aug 2012 #43

Except with the Mormon Church, they know how much you make and how much you have saved. Sivafae Aug 2012 #75

They cannot know what you told and or paid the IRS unless you show them the paperwork. cstanleytech Aug 2012 #136

Well Panasonic Aug 2012 #39

All the other presidents/presidential candidates (since his father's time) rocktivity Aug 2012 #41

Just ignore Mitt's pitiful attempt at sympathy bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #42

Or VOUCHERCARE = Plz Die Faster nt. cstanleytech Aug 2012 #44

Hey, Customize The Slogan However you Like bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #65

So then, giving to charity is no longer a point in your favor, right Mitt & Ann? brooklynite Aug 2012 #45

My theory is it's another tax evasion scheme of his bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #48

oh, bullshit. nt Deep13 Aug 2012 #50

His father wasn't troubled by it jberryhill Aug 2012 #52

LMAO Solly Mack Aug 2012 #53

Then redact the tithing and release the damned returns. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #54

If he took a tax deduction on the tithing rocktivity Aug 2012 #61

Good point. I stand corrected. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #63

They just thought of that one? onehandle Aug 2012 #55

Then he shouldn't be running for president. yardwork Aug 2012 #60

Mitt Romney is like a waiter at a bad French restaurant: beac Aug 2012 #62

The only conclusion matt819 Aug 2012 #66

Tax returns, if you please mgarr Aug 2012 #67

White-Out !!!!!!!! canadowa16 Aug 2012 #68

He's lying moobu2 Aug 2012 #73

Nobody forced him to deduct that or any charitable donations. eShirl Aug 2012 #74

Maybe he did not tithe as much as he said he did... McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #76

Mitt is more afraid of the Church then the Public or IRS FAHQ69_7 Aug 2012 #77

My theory is NV Whino Aug 2012 #78

Why would tithing TOO MUCH be a problem? rocktivity Aug 2012 #84

Tithing too much could tick off the IRS NV Whino Aug 2012 #102

That's EXACTLY my point! bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #106

I wonder how many focus groups they tested this one on? drm604 Aug 2012 #79

I'm betting that Romney stiffed his Church on tithe amounts LibertyLover Aug 2012 #81

What did he expect? If he claimed his tithe as a deduction, then decided to run for President... pinto Aug 2012 #82

I thought he did not wish to speak of Mormonism, now he's using it as a defense? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #83

His father didn't have an issue with that, did he? n/t woodsprite Aug 2012 #85

As I recall, he did not... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #89

+1000 - Plus DallasNE Aug 2012 #114

Lies. Oh, what a tangled web we weave, closeupready Aug 2012 #87

And just before the convention, too! rocktivity Aug 2012 #90

No church publishes what people have given. Secret giving is a religious principle that precludes Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #88

DING DING DING! Bluenorthwest, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Aug 2012 #93

OK, so redact that line. Renew Deal Aug 2012 #92

total bullshit, last ditch excuse n/t Knicks007 Aug 2012 #95

Well then, WAA-WAA should not have taken tax deductions for the tithing. Zen Democrat Aug 2012 #97

Hey... separation of church and state.... AlbertCat Aug 2012 #98

This might have carried more weight if sdfernando Aug 2012 #100

Lying For The Lordy otohara Aug 2012 #101

The Mormon church is pretty vocal about expecting a ten percent tithe... yurbud Aug 2012 #108

My bet slutticus Aug 2012 #109

"It�s a very personal thing between ourselves and our commitment to our God .... " Botany Aug 2012 #110

playing the god card and then, "This is done entirely privately" - so why get IRS involved, Mittwit? wordpix Aug 2012 #111

But everyone else evilhime Aug 2012 #112

Why would one be ashamed of how much they give to God? notadmblnd Aug 2012 #115

Then don't run for President. Hugabear Aug 2012 #117

he is to give 10% to the church april Aug 2012 #118

I was thinking the same thing. Mr.Bill Aug 2012 #119

makes me want to see them even more.... trailmonkee Aug 2012 #120

Nope not hiding behind his religion, he's scared of it... Javaman Aug 2012 #122

What a dumbass LynneSin Aug 2012 #123

Hmmm...so is he cheating on his religion, too? PurityOfEssence Aug 2012 #125

I personally save on taxes by giving money to a church but I sometimes wonder how "fair" that is. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #126

I'm a full tithe payer (give 10% of all my income to the church) BSUbluNorange Aug 2012 #128

the fact Mitt told the IRS is public enough - personal my butt is right wordpix Aug 2012 #131

But here's the thing thelordofhell Aug 2012 #133

Idk about that.. BSUbluNorange Aug 2012 #155

Do you deduct your tithing from your taxes? rocktivity Aug 2012 #135

No, because it'd only bring my adj gross income down a few thousand bucks BSUbluNorange Aug 2012 #154

This guy really is out of ideas isn't he? Blue Idaho Aug 2012 #129

hypocrite MrsMuir Aug 2012 #130

Oh but that's why Mittens is "qualified" to be POTUS, dontcha know. beac Aug 2012 #145

someone can check me on this... defacto7 Aug 2012 #132

You are correct. The mormon church is now the wealthiest religious entity on the planet. Raster Aug 2012 #138

I just had a thought, defacto7 Aug 2012 #134

Equating tithing with taxes ,scares me on his Separation ... orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #139

Hmm, let me see.... NOPE, not buying it. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #140

"It�s a very personal thing Control-Z Aug 2012 #141

Then don't claim it as a deduction MadrasT Aug 2012 #142

Ah, that explains it then. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #143

Then why run for president? 6000eliot Aug 2012 #147

Ann Romney Destroys Her Husband�s Newest Tax Excuse polly7 Aug 2012 #149

He can't hide behind his church. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #150