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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Most advanced nations use a combination of governing
Sun May 6, 2018, 07:57 PM
May 2018

systems these days, each for what works best, or at least better. Controlled capitalism for its energy. Government investment for what will or cannot be done by private industry.

Socialized medicine for its guaranteed access to care, lowered costs and quality control -- and for its morality and responsibility? Surely it's just plain wrong for all medical care available to most people to be for-profit so that business can exploit illness and suffering for whatever the market will bear? Everyone should be able to opt out of that.

We don't want the Republicans to have any victories they can point to in this election year, but it seems almost wicked to hope he fails. I just learned a bottle of pills that've been in production for close to 50 years now supposedly costs close to $1000, instead of $15 or so. Only one company is manufacturing it because profits on such an old medication are too low to use facilities for and yada yada.

And then there's the medical specialty group that actually prescribed this instead of an alternative because, presumably, insurance would pay for it. And because they have a contract with a pharmaceuticals company and ALL their prescriptions are sent directly by computer to that company, no copy given to the patient, just assurance that prices are the lowest to be found anywhere, including that $1000. My first experience with this highly questionable setup, and I've contacted the supplier and told them I'll be forwarding my prescriptions elsewhere.

It's not that I'm a huge fan of high pharma prices... jmowreader May 2018 #1
Pretty much what every civilized country does. LiberalArkie May 2018 #3
Most advanced nations use a combination of governing Hortensis May 2018 #13
Your local gov through a rate board determines electric and natl gas prices..... Bengus81 May 2018 #23
Somebody cue the "blowjob' disipinary hearing scene from Animal House now please pecosbob May 2018 #2
This is robbing innovation and the future for lower prices now bucolic_frolic May 2018 #4
Yeah, but fear not. Ligyron May 2018 #5
He'll whine about how the evil Democrats wouldn't let him fulfill his promise hatrack May 2018 #12
Exactly this, hatrack. Exactly. susanna May 2018 #18
'Cuz the Democrats' unbreakable lock on power in the House & Senate . . hatrack May 2018 #21
But why are we..... SergeStorms May 2018 #7
I don't know of any rationale for it bucolic_frolic May 2018 #9
many countries, like Canada, have a time limit on new drugs to sell the original LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #17
Nonsense. kacekwl May 2018 #15
Pharma companies can adjust by cutting advertising budget. nt NCjack May 2018 #22
The story I heard: no_hypocrisy May 2018 #6
It's all talk...nothing will happen... LeftInTX May 2018 #8
Agreed . n/t kacekwl May 2018 #16
This has to be too good to be true. nt raccoon May 2018 #10
Getting the pharmy nazis Maxheader May 2018 #11
Greasing the skids for some big "campaign donations" rurallib May 2018 #14
Bingo dalton99a May 2018 #25
Some folks have brought up R&D area51 May 2018 #19
Insurance companies, Veterans Administration, some big groups can negotiate with Pharma ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2018 #20
smoke and mirrors. push a bill with a nice sounding title that does nothing dembotoz May 2018 #24
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