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66. Which is why we should take a page from the Norwegan prison system. Their recidivisim is very low

Reply to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #37)

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:24 PM

Aug 2012

absurdly low in comparison to the US system. If our first concern was the safety and well being of our people we would focus on rehabilitation and prevention, rather then punishment.

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Breivik verdict: mass-murderer declared sane and sentenced to 21 years [View all] dipsydoodle Aug 2012 OP

Good. Hopefully he'll never be freed and will spend his life in prison. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #1

... maximum possible term of 21 years/ordered to serve minimum of 10 yrs in prison .. THAT IS INSANE Tx4obama Aug 2012 #2

Somehow, I don't think they will ever let him out. Ash_F Aug 2012 #6

Tx4obama Diclotican Aug 2012 #9

We also use the expression "hot potato." amandabeech Aug 2012 #50

Thank you for posting the explanation :) n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #75

Tx4obama Diclotican Aug 2012 #81

Please learn something about Norwegian prison sentences and then try again. He's not getting out. nt Posteritatis Aug 2012 #52

Beware ! Stella_Artois Aug 2012 #73

It's no wonder we have so many problems in this world 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #82

Ned Sark... tragic character fascisthunter Aug 2012 #90

dipsydoodle Diclotican Aug 2012 #3

Diclotican dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #10

dipsydoodle Diclotican Aug 2012 #12

Agreed. Lock him up with a few other lifer bubba's and lose the key. geckosfeet Aug 2012 #27

Fascist. ellisonz Aug 2012 #4

HOW could he only get 21 years? Frustratedlady Aug 2012 #5

I think it should be 21 years for EACH person he killed. n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #7

There is no sentence of life imprisonment in Norway per say... ellisonz Aug 2012 #8

ellisonz Diclotican Aug 2012 #11

The Norweigans are a beautiful and tolerant people... ellisonz Aug 2012 #13

ellisonz Diclotican Aug 2012 #18

Could you imagine such a law applied to someone like exboyfil Aug 2012 #14

This is the problem with Americans... ellisonz Aug 2012 #16

Someone like Ted Bundy exboyfil Aug 2012 #19

No..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #37

Which is why we should take a page from the Norwegan prison system. Their recidivisim is very low Exultant Democracy Aug 2012 #66

The scenario presented was about Ted Bundy ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #78

And both generally recognized as such by their respective criminal justice systems. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #87

I agree, if indeed Brevik is never allowed a sniff of freedom ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #89

I'm sorry, but no society will be safe with Brevik walking freely in the streets again. I don't smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #94

Since he was very calculating in carrying out his crimes, I think you could justify it muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #20

Mark David Chapman vankuria Aug 2012 #44

Per se. boppers Aug 2012 #25

Perse tama Aug 2012 #36

LOL eom boppers Aug 2012 #85

I am so gonna use that sometime dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #92

The international media keeps lying about this because it makes a good story. Lars77 Aug 2012 #21

I think he's happy to stay in the rest of his life Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #34

He smiled when the verdict was read - he was afraid he would be judged insane. Lars77 Aug 2012 #35

Yep. And the lie is working very very well, going by the tantrums in this thread. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #55

Nazi Scum ellisonz Aug 2012 #15

Actually he is more of a third generation right winger that we have in europe (and the US). Lars77 Aug 2012 #22

Hmmmm... Nostradammit Aug 2012 #26

Still, he identifies himself as pro-israel in his own document. Lars77 Aug 2012 #28

Scum, yes, but seems to be nazi scum. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #31

I would suspect leftynyc Aug 2012 #32

Exactamundo. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #72

Now this is really pro-life Jeneral2885 Aug 2012 #17

Over here, they call these guys "The Tea Party/Tea Baggers" or... ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #23

To understand and resolve should be more important than simple punishment. Festivito Aug 2012 #24

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #29

Bend over and take it attitude? Lars77 Aug 2012 #30

He can't. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #83

Norway should get to work on enacting just sentencing laws harun Aug 2012 #33

He will spend the rest of his life in prison. What's lenient about it? Do you want him dead? Lars77 Aug 2012 #38

Just? tama Aug 2012 #39

Also, if anyone bothered to actually read they would see he's never getting out. Lars77 Aug 2012 #41

Whoa, don't forget race and class..... Burma Jones Aug 2012 #42

harun Diclotican Aug 2012 #43

The U.S. system is about racism and making $$$ harun Aug 2012 #47

harun Diclotican Aug 2012 #64

"who hold 10 percent at your population in shackles at all times is better" EX500rider Aug 2012 #77

EX500rider Diclotican Aug 2012 #80

From wiki tama Aug 2012 #96

tama Diclotican Aug 2012 #98

Norway has just sentencing laws. We're the insane ones. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #49

No, I think they've got it covered n/t fishwax Aug 2012 #76

Please describe how forvaring is lenient. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #86

BREIVIK IS INSANE GEORGE PARKER Aug 2012 #40

GEORGE PARKER Diclotican Aug 2012 #45

He would have gone to a mental hospital according to their laws if he was Cleita Aug 2012 #56

I'm as liberal as they come , but 21 years seems awfully light proud patriot Aug 2012 #46

For me it's not revenge. Cleita Aug 2012 #61

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2012 #48

Guy should have gotten life with no chance of ever being released. Cleita Aug 2012 #51

That *is* what he's getting. Please learn about Norwegian sentencing for such offenders. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #53

I dunno. Cleita Aug 2012 #58

You are aware that Norway doesn't use California's legal system, right? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #62

Of course not. I was making a comparison of how other places did it. Cleita Aug 2012 #63

Uhh, he has done the opposite of getting away with murder. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #68

Norwegian prisons are country clubs. former9thward Aug 2012 #54

I don't have a problem with that. Cleita Aug 2012 #60

You don't have a problem with it and neither do the inmates. former9thward Aug 2012 #65

No I really don't. Cleita Aug 2012 #67

If you read the link and post they have a special room for conjugal visits. former9thward Aug 2012 #69

That's too bad. Cleita Aug 2012 #71

former9thward Diclotican Aug 2012 #70

Thanks for the information but I think he should be put to death. former9thward Aug 2012 #95

former9thward Diclotican Aug 2012 #97

"...but that can be prolonged . . . if he is deemed to remain a danger to society." Posteritatis Aug 2012 #57

He shouldn't have a chance if reformed. Cleita Aug 2012 #59

We can't change our laws to punish one individual. Lars77 Aug 2012 #74

Oh, I understand. I'm just saying stuff, is all. Cleita Aug 2012 #93

So you're saying it's all smoke and mirrors? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #79

FFS. And another case of "so you're saying" followed by a made up claim. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #84

Defensive... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #88

his crimes and testimony are the DEFINITION of insanity FraDon Aug 2012 #91

I would be last one to denie tama Aug 2012 #99

How is US government different from Breivik? tama Aug 2012 #100

Statement from a survivor regarding the sentence suffragette Aug 2012 #101

BREIVIK IS INSANE GEORGE PARKER Aug 2012 #102