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JCMach1

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155. Time for her to go

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Sat May 26, 2018, 11:37 AM

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UPDATE: Nancy Pelosi at CNN Town Hall: If Only Democrats Impeach Trump, 'It Will Divide The Country' [View all] DonViejo May 2018 OP

Will divide the country? The country is as divided as it can be. Jim__ May 2018 #1

No question!! 70% of Democrats can't be wrong... impeach 45!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #26

It will unite Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #59

He does seem to be working with/for Putin but the numbers to... brush May 2018 #96

That thinking got us 8 years of BushCheney C_U_L8R May 2018 #2

Bush could not be impeached because just like now we didn't have the votes in the Senate...And I Demsrule86 May 2018 #84

It doesn't take any votes in the Senate to impeach dumbcat May 2018 #99

What is the point of impeachment if you can't remove the president from office? Demsrule86 May 2018 #102

Uh, that's what I was trying to tell you dumbcat May 2018 #103

I know that...my post reflected that the reason we shouldn't impeach is because we can't convict Demsrule86 May 2018 #137

I think we agree dumbcat May 2018 #143

I know that...and perhaps I wasn't clear...but yes we do agree Demsrule86 May 2018 #144

She is right. Chemisse May 2018 #3

Imagine Reality relogic May 2018 #9

But they never tried to impeach him for all the perceived "illegal" acts they claimed. 7962 May 2018 #17

Impeachment? relogic May 2018 #19

They're already enraged rpannier May 2018 #13

Irony relogic May 2018 #16

Bu6t they're not riding down out of the hills with their guns. Chemisse May 2018 #68

The left went after nixon we survived the right webt after clinton we survived that as well Fullduplexxx May 2018 #14

We had congress and gop helped. Demsrule86 May 2018 #45

We've never had a complicit Congress before. Chemisse May 2018 #70

Unfortunately I think Nancy has no choice but to acknowledge the math. lagomorph777 May 2018 #15

That is the crux of this matter, which Pelosi knows full well, despite giving "division" excuse JaneQPublic May 2018 #30

AND if impeachment talk is part of the midterm elections, Chemisse May 2018 #71

She's right. The GOP doomed Nixon. PSPS May 2018 #35

They won't this time, even if they are the minority in the Senate. They have learned KPN May 2018 #66

The GOP did that to Bill Clinton apnu May 2018 #38

Impeachment made Clinton more popular DeminPennswoods May 2018 #47

The GOP lost big time in 98 because of the impeachment. Demsrule86 May 2018 #50

That's speculation. There is also the explanation that the economy was flying high via the KPN May 2018 #69

Impeachment caused Clinton favorables to go up...there is a public record. Demsrule86 May 2018 #79

Thanks. I agree, there is no point right now. I just think we need to make sure we aren't KPN May 2018 #86

I agree with not looking weak. But if she evaded the question it would have looked weak too. Demsrule86 May 2018 #97

Yes. I agree. I just think the day after we did win the House in 2006 was not the day to KPN May 2018 #138

What would we have impeached Bush on anyway? WMD's we can't even be sure he wasn't tricked Demsrule86 May 2018 #139

Well, we agree that impeachment would have gone KPN May 2018 #140

She could have been more sensitive...but I don't think that is her style...one tough lady. So I Demsrule86 May 2018 #141

She is one tough lady for sure. I'm good KPN May 2018 #142

Me too...no matter what she does she will be hated by the right and some on our side as well. Demsrule86 May 2018 #146

Nope first time since 1934...and only repeated by Bush in 02 after 9-11. Demsrule86 May 2018 #133

The GOP did not lose much at all in 1998. former9thward May 2018 #115

Yes they did...when you consider it was a midterm... Demsrule86 May 2018 #132

I agree. MBS May 2018 #39

Enrage half of America? KPN May 2018 #64

Yes, she is right. Watergate was a bipartisan effort and it mostly united the country. Alethia Merritt May 2018 #130

What exactly about NOT impeaching Trump is unifying? Girard442 May 2018 #4

+1 nt jonno99 May 2018 #128

So let's let this thing create untold damage so that we don't do what is already done? NRaleighLiberal May 2018 #5

Exactly. Well said. Owl May 2018 #119

Aaaand here we go again..... vi5 May 2018 #6

THIS! Va Lefty May 2018 #8

So FUCKING SICK of this . . . hatrack May 2018 #21

How about given the behavior of the GOP, it is not possible to get Trump out of office by Demsrule86 May 2018 #51

So tired of our milquetoast responses. Owl May 2018 #120

I'm tired of it all... vi5 May 2018 #122

I understand completely. Owl May 2018 #125

And leaving him in office will most likely destroy the country Siwsan May 2018 #7

I trust that she knows what she's talking about. Her Democratic peers have elected her ehrnst May 2018 #10

All good points. nt 7962 May 2018 #18

I get your points, and somewhat agree with them, but... Shipwack May 2018 #62

Well, yes, as long as there are enough traitorous GOP left in congress ehrnst May 2018 #73

The repug side, which always threatens civil war, Mc Mike May 2018 #11

Get out of the way, Pelosi. Paladin May 2018 #12

We should have done something about it in the past two elections Wwcd May 2018 #60

And I sure dont want Nancy to "get out of the way" sigh...the ONE person who knows more Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #78

Knowing that the glorious MSM investors want a good return on their money, Wwcd May 2018 #98

And there is no way to get him out as we don't have the votes in the Senate to convict...she is Demsrule86 May 2018 #85

There has already been impeachment papers introduced to the House. Several times. Wwcd May 2018 #100

Agreed. Owl May 2018 #124

Oh, noes - division!! That would be . . . . horrible!! hatrack May 2018 #20

If we take the House in the mid terms SHRED May 2018 #22

So do we have the votes in the senate or not, we dont, let me save you the time Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #80

We still don't have the votes in the Senate...so we work towards getting him out in 20. Demsrule86 May 2018 #87

She should be saying this IN PUBLIC right now Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #23

Tom it is never going to arrive. The GOP will never go along and we don't have the votes in the Demsrule86 May 2018 #88

This is why Nancy Pelosi should not be a leader at this time. Yavin4 May 2018 #24

Aw. NurseJackie May 2018 #27

I cant, i just cant. I have to step away maybe, if on one side we have actual NAZI'S Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #82

So much whining. Temper tantrums and hand-wringing. NurseJackie May 2018 #89

This is exactly why she should be a leader...she deals in reality. Demsrule86 May 2018 #90

At a different time, yes, but we lose when we don't call out a party that has no values other than Yavin4 May 2018 #113

Impeachment talk can only help Republicans by stirring up their base. The reason mid-terms Demsrule86 May 2018 #135

Nancy Pelosi runtel May 2018 #149

She is correct mcar May 2018 #25

Of course she's correct! I'm so sick of all the whining and hand-wringing and.... NurseJackie May 2018 #31

One would think people would know more about the process mcar May 2018 #57

People who have NO clue what the job Nancy does entails, the REALITY Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #83

Do some believe that if we impeach Trump, he is out of office? Have they not heard of conviction Demsrule86 May 2018 #91

+1000 brer cat May 2018 #110

It's true NJ JustAnotherGen May 2018 #117

Bazinga! George II May 2018 #118

Yes, she is wise and correct. Our democracy is broken Hortensis May 2018 #145

I want her to be our next Speaker mcar May 2018 #147

:) Me too, but her colleagues will choose. Hortensis May 2018 #148

and if it does divide the country azureblue May 2018 #28

It can't get much more divided without a civil war. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #29

The country is already divided. CanonRay May 2018 #32

Nixon's presidency was not in jeopardy until he lost the support of members of his own party. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #33

No, Nancy it will not cause any more division because we really JoeOtterbein May 2018 #34

Impeachment will not remove Trump. Demsrule86 May 2018 #44

That's no reason not to impeach, if warranted. It's just a result, if it's only Dems. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #36

There is no way get him out without GOP votes in the Senate. Demsrule86 May 2018 #43

Even after the mid-terms, you think? nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #114

The way the Senate elections are in 18, it is mathematically impossible to get enough Democratic Demsrule86 May 2018 #134

Oh, yes. Now I remember reading that. Best we can hope is to get more power w/more seats.nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #150

Exactly right...and we have eight conservadems at grave risk...including Joe Manchin in Demsrule86 May 2018 #152

It's stupid for her to be asked the question, and stupider to expect an answer... Orsino May 2018 #37

You need Republicans to impeach. Demsrule86 May 2018 #42

And even with a Mueller report and a hundred more indictments, that'd be a hard sell. n/t Orsino May 2018 #55

They Wont do it in my opinion. Demsrule86 May 2018 #56

I think they'll have to, eventually, or Trump will resign. Orsino May 2018 #58

I think it is possible he resigns also. Demsrule86 May 2018 #67

She is correct. Impeachment must be bi-partisan. We won't have the votes in the Senate to convict. Demsrule86 May 2018 #40

Are we not divided now ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #41

Here is what I think Pelosi should be emphasizing Zorro May 2018 #46

Reading is fundamental, people. Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #48

+1 backtoblue May 2018 #123

Everyday it becomes clear this country will not survive twitlers presidency and we kimbutgar May 2018 #49

This is why she should not be speaker. WestIndianArchie May 2018 #52

This is why she is a great speaker. She deal in reality not wishful thinking...we Demsrule86 May 2018 #92

I'm reluctantly willing to give Pelosi and the Dem leadership awesomerwb1 May 2018 #53

Agreed. Shipwack May 2018 #65

When family members cannot talk politics, the country is already divided. Fire him. dameatball May 2018 #54

She is absolutely correct GulfCoast66 May 2018 #61

How many democrats itcfish May 2018 #63

Any House candidate who proactively talks about impeachment gets cut off from my funds... brooklynite May 2018 #72

Good point...we need to flip votes. Demsrule86 May 2018 #93

Never change Dems .... LenaBaby61 May 2018 #74

Ok fine...show me how we impeach and convict Trump even if we get the house...find 67 votes in Demsrule86 May 2018 #94

"Ok fine...show me how we impeach and convict Trump even if we get the house...find 67 votes." LenaBaby61 May 2018 #111

Nice evading the question...but where do the votes in the Senate come from? And Franken is a red Demsrule86 May 2018 #136

I like and support Pelosi, but I think she needs to be a bit more straight-forward KPN May 2018 #75

There was never a chance to convict Bush either. Impeachment without conviction is a waste of time . Demsrule86 May 2018 #81

"Nancy Pelosi at CNN Town Hall: If Only Democrats Impeach Trump, 'It Will Divide The Country." LenaBaby61 May 2018 #112

The flaw in the line of succession Qutzupalotl May 2018 #76

As long as republicans have the majority in both houses impeachment isn't going to happen still_one May 2018 #77

Even if we get the house...we can't convict in the Senate...it is a sad thing when the GOP Demsrule86 May 2018 #95

What about no one being above the law. Trump is the walking embodiment of high crimes and notdarkyet May 2018 #101

Impeachment is like Censure kurtcagle May 2018 #104

They said that about the Civil Rights Act.... But the country figured out how to deal with it. Civic Justice May 2018 #105

Pelosi, I try to defend you DonCoquixote May 2018 #106

Treason is divisive. meadowlander May 2018 #107

Right now, the math doesn't work DeminPennswoods May 2018 #108

That's a bullshit excuse. BlueStater May 2018 #109

That's not what she said. It's not an "excuse" it's reality. NurseJackie May 2018 #121

It IS an excuse. BlueStater May 2018 #131

If we don't get rid of traitor trump and his ilk Marthe48 May 2018 #116

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #126

She is thinking long-term strategy when people want to go to the mattresses Bradshaw3 May 2018 #127

pssst...It's already divided Nancy Demonaut May 2018 #129

she is correct. We need Republicans in on this. riversedge May 2018 #151

He has to be impeached eventualy Bradical79 May 2018 #153

You may not have noticed, Nancy, but the country has been pretty divided for some time. nt raccoon May 2018 #154

Time for her to go JCMach1 May 2018 #155