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8. In practice countries pick and choose when they'll recognize international courts.

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:27 PM

Aug 2012

There's no way Britain will in this case, not if they're invested enough to be openly threatening to violate an embassy.

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Assange could go to international court [View all] AntiFascist Aug 2012 OP

UK would have to agree to the ICJ hearing the matter ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #1

Is That How the ICJ Works? On the Road Aug 2012 #2

Jurisdiction, in practice, is by consent struggle4progress Aug 2012 #7

In practice countries pick and choose when they'll recognize international courts. Posteritatis Aug 2012 #8

But what are the odds the court would even agree to hear the matter? cstanleytech Aug 2012 #3

There is also the issue that... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #5

Define "sufficient legal protections"? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #12

Have consular authorities actually visited Assange? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #20

He rejected offers of consular assistance Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #23

That would probably be the best solution. Cleita Aug 2012 #4

Assange's legal team might want a quick peek at the Court's website before filing: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #6

This is going to be a case between Equador and the UK. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #11

The Spaniard Garzon is not Ecuador's representative but heads Assange's legal team: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #35

The dispute would be between Ecuador and the UK. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #13

Assange will take UK to �World Court� if not given safe passage to Ecuado struggle4progress Aug 2012 #38

The International Court of Justice is likely to deny hearing Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #9

Assange would argue that the "ordinary crime" alleged against him and the charge JDPriestly Aug 2012 #14

There's no evidence of that Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #18

Wikileaks has evidence... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #15

Which has fuck-all to do with a criminal prosecution in Sweden. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #16

On the contrary... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #24

That's absurd and nonsensical Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #25

I have to disagree with you again... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #26

The Congressional Research Service examined Espionage Act grounds for seeking indictment. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #31

As of May 12, 2011... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #34

"seeking to close gaps in the laws" = ex post facto and thus unconstitutional Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #37

We'll see how this plays out.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #41

Not really Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #42

"Closing the gaps".... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #43

Your citations of laws dating back to 1917, without mentioning how truedelphi Aug 2012 #46

The Espionage Act of 1917 is the only law that would apply. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #47

The Justice Department? Of the United States of America? truedelphi Aug 2012 #50

About Assange.... mwooldri Aug 2012 #10

Only if Assange promises to go into custody if the Swedish prosecutors decide to arrest him hack89 Aug 2012 #17

And the reason for that tama Aug 2012 #27

If Ecuador and Assange refuse to recognize Sweden's right to arrest Assange if necessary hack89 Aug 2012 #28

"Who gets to decide what is justice?" tama Aug 2012 #33

So you have no practical solution that could solve the present impasse? hack89 Aug 2012 #36

Practical solution that could solve the present impasse tama Aug 2012 #40

Ah!!! The irony: JDPriestly Aug 2012 #19

"A country like Ecuador"... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #22

Not extraditing tama Aug 2012 #29

"having the matter decided by a court"... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #32

I have very little of such faith tama Aug 2012 #39

I thought nation states and their laws are very low on your list of priorities hack89 Aug 2012 #44

Nope tama Aug 2012 #45

The ICJ decided in 1950 that diplomatic asylum only applied if both countries had already agreed muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #21

the best of luck to him and his attorneys rachel1 Aug 2012 #30

Sure. Send him. cliss Aug 2012 #48

........ treestar Aug 2012 #49