U.S. Supreme Court Throws Out Gay-Bias Finding Against Baker

[The Mouth]

62. Ok....

Point being that if you serve people a product or service that is the same for everyone, then I believe (could be wrong) that you are obligated to provide your product or service to anyone who wants it, be they gay, Nazi, cult member...... OTOH if you CREATE unique art as a producte (cake) or service (music) then is one required to use one's creativity in the service of something one finds objectionable. At least that's how I think the question should be viewed. In other words, a baker selling cupcakes or loaves of bread that are already made cannot say "I won't sell one of these to Jews/Gays/Nazis/JWs/Muslims/Fasicists. On the other hand, should a Jew be required to bake a cake with 'Heil Hitler' and a Swastika? If you have a band that plays Death Metal should you be required by law to play a Christian wedding and do gospel and praise songs?

Other than that, I'm trying to get your point so as to respond to it... If you are going to argue that a baker is not an artist then anything else you say is not worth responding to, as far as I am concerned a baker is an artisan and NO artisan should have to create ANYTHING for anyone for any reason against their will, period.

I get that its a narrow ruling about the commission that punished the baker being careless in their reasoning rather than the -I think more interesting issue - of where obligation to not discriminate against the public meets the right of an artist or artisan to tell anyone to fuck off for any reason whatsoever. Personally, I think economic leverage is equally if not more important in the long term; I sure as hell wouldn't want to give my business to someone who would discriminate against good people like my various gay friends, just because they are gay...