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61. The person destroying evidence (or assaulting the president) would have committed a different crime
Thu Jun 7, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jun 2018

Which is irrelevant to the alleged crime in this case. The question is whether Hannity attempted to caused or induce the destruction of evidence or altering of testimony.

The mere attempt to do so is a crime, whether or not anyone actually destroys evidence or altered their testimony (which would be a different crime).

The question is whether hannity's support and encouragement for this rises to the level of "cause" or "inducement". We can disagree on that point, but it would be a crime if it did.


As to your hypothetical, yes, making a public wish for violence against a specific target is a crime. Whether it gets prosecuted is another question. Most likely it wouldn't, unless someone acted on that wish, especially if they cited your statement as a motivator. In the case of the president, you might get a visit from the secret service, in any event.

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No, it won't zipplewrath Jun 2018 #1
this isn't political commentary. unblock Jun 2018 #6
It's probably the defense he would use though and considering he would get a jury trial cstanleytech Jun 2018 #22
That's really not a trial defense, it's more of an appellate argument. unblock Jun 2018 #31
anybody want to bet? SCantiGOP Jun 2018 #43
I agree that he won't face charges for this. unblock Jun 2018 #49
Not a crime SCantiGOP Jun 2018 #58
The person destroying evidence (or assaulting the president) would have committed a different crime unblock Jun 2018 #61
Here is the actual language (not the abbreviated version in the article cited in the OP): onenote Jun 2018 #64
thanks! any insight into what "corruptly persuades" means? unblock Jun 2018 #65
The meaning of "corruptly persuade" is something the courts have struggled with onenote Jun 2018 #67
"IF I advised them to..." Nitram Jun 2018 #30
Mob bosses have been convicted for even less direct statements. unblock Jun 2018 #32
And Hannity is not a mob boss. He's an television entertainer. Nitram Jun 2018 #33
Point is, the "if..." but doesn't help him much unblock Jun 2018 #35
Of course it is FBaggins Jun 2018 #34
Mueller should call Hannity in front of the grand jury and see if he was acting at the behest of Pepsidog Jun 2018 #39
And he should subpoena Hannity's phone, compuers, etc. displacedtexan Jun 2018 #51
Yes he should Pepsidog Jun 2018 #66
And he said ... aggiesal Jun 2018 #11
What is he referring to? When did Clinton do/say that? irisblue Jun 2018 #16
Did Hillary Clinton Smash Her Phone with a Hammer? jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #23
thank you. I didn't follow that issue closely enough to know that. irisblue Jun 2018 #24
Sounds like precautions for disposal of an obsolete/unused device bigbrother05 Jun 2018 #36
Absolutely jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #41
Would have been helpful if that had been the answer to the query exboyfil Jun 2018 #55
That's true, but I can't tell you what happened to my old gov't computers bigbrother05 Jun 2018 #60
While I somewhat agree that he won't get prosecuted, Stonepounder Jun 2018 #12
Hannity will say claim to be an entertainer. All is well! riversedge Jun 2018 #2
lol, finally authorities get ahold of messaging apps, like WhatsApp, Dust and Signal Sunlei Jun 2018 #3
K&R ! stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #4
Yeah the mental images of him in an orange jumpsuit are quite appealing 47of74 Jun 2018 #5
Do you think.... mgardener Jun 2018 #25
Hannity? Nah. 47of74 Jun 2018 #38
pardon bait n/t 0rganism Jun 2018 #7
'Wittness" Hannity has to turn over his own phone because Cohen lied about him. Sunlei Jun 2018 #8
Hannity may be a witness, but he is witless. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #59
fox should have retired Hanni when they "retired" old man sex addict-trump panderer#2 Sunlei Jun 2018 #62
Hillary et al followed Fed policy and procedure by destroying the phones underpants Jun 2018 #9
Witless tampering duforsure Jun 2018 #10
Hannity's not worried. If it is a federal crime, Trump can pardon him... CTyankee Jun 2018 #13
Clickbait; come on people. HenryWallace Jun 2018 #14
Everything that is coming out of Trump supporters' mouths, makes it obvious that they believe C Moon Jun 2018 #15
Yup LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #21
It could be a state crime. Where is he broadcasting from? 33taw Jun 2018 #17
New York City... but it's cable and not broadcast. mwooldri Jun 2018 #20
What's the phrase? IOKIYAR? mwooldri Jun 2018 #18
Lock him up Schedule Jun 2018 #19
Please take a minute.... NOMOGOP Jun 2018 #26
And FOX and advertisers are OK SayItLoud Jun 2018 #27
No, he didn't advise that they destroy their phones. He wisely prefaced his comments with, "IF Nitram Jun 2018 #28
Why go to all that trouble if there's nothing to hide? defacto7 Jun 2018 #29
What is the "acid wash" thing a reference to? oberliner Jun 2018 #37
The Orange Dipshit used that term, too. Dave Starsky Jun 2018 #44
The whole line of argument refers to Clinton and claims about her personal email server FBaggins Jun 2018 #47
Never heard that term before the Orange Clown used it. Dave Starsky Jun 2018 #50
I think he is referring to all of those stylish blue jeans he has in his closet. kmla Jun 2018 #54
No, I think the other responder is right oberliner Jun 2018 #57
LOCK HIM UP! stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #40
From Your Lips to the Prosecutor's Ears... dlk Jun 2018 #42
nothing will happen to him but he dosen't know that Javaman Jun 2018 #45
Destroying the phone won't destroy the evidence. But go ahead Merlot Jun 2018 #46
Hannity really is an idiot. Vinca Jun 2018 #48
The article cited in the OP misstates the law. onenote Jun 2018 #52
Everybody is a lawyer these days... HopeAgain Jun 2018 #53
I will donate 1000 hours of my time and $1000 of my money to any Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #56
Maggot would pardon MFM008 Jun 2018 #63
Locking opinion and analysis backtoblue Jun 2018 #68
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