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22. Moving to a civilized country is looking better and better

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:24 AM

Jun 2018

I dont recognize my country anymore.

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Supreme Court rules against public unions collecting fees for nonmembers [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 OP

Fuck. Bye, bye last gasp of American middle class. Been nice knowing you. Squinch Jun 2018 #1

Meh, middle class is an illusion anyway ck4829 Jun 2018 #2

Meh, maybe you're right watoos Jun 2018 #8

The Supreme Court has become the mouth piece of the ruling party. olegramps Jun 2018 #41

Politicians in robes n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2018 #70

Unfortunately, there is only one solution now. James48 Jun 2018 #3

No because Freddie Jun 2018 #16

Yep,or get billed for those benefits Marthe48 Jun 2018 #56

The problem is, ... aggiesal Jun 2018 #18

Not an option FBaggins Jun 2018 #35

What if the employer Yupster Jun 2018 #49

OK, now see if they protect the rest of the safeinOhio Jun 2018 #4

Tweedledee tweedledum JI7 Jun 2018 #5

This shouldn't be remotely a surprise DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #6

Yep... 5-4 decision. Nt bsiebs Jun 2018 #25

It was actually heard before Scalia died DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #87

So maybe the unions need to craft deals that explicitly grant benefits only to union members cstanleytech Jun 2018 #7

Do you think watoos Jun 2018 #10

From scotusblog - asiliveandbreathe Jun 2018 #20

More reason leftynyc Jun 2018 #9

My neighbor (hidden racist /Trump supporter /NRA fan) is a trucker. C Moon Jun 2018 #57

I have zero sympathy for anyone leftynyc Jun 2018 #63

I think the ruling only affects public service unions. IBOT is unaffected. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2018 #81

I was wondering about that after I posted my comment. Thanks! C Moon Jun 2018 #82

WaPo link BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #11

Thanks. Changed title to this, per LBN rules. Good morning. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #28

Just now from Amy Howe.....scotusblog - asiliveandbreathe Jun 2018 #12

When Obama could have got us 'card check' and didn't... yallerdawg Jun 2018 #13

This started under Reagan when much of labor voted for him against Carter. still_one Jun 2018 #32

When Obama went into the White House with Democratic majorities... yallerdawg Jun 2018 #42

The majorities were not enough as the ACA dmonstrated. We needed the blue dogs, and the ACA was still_one Jun 2018 #44

I remember this well. yallerdawg Jun 2018 #47

I hear ya still_one Jun 2018 #48

He actually did BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #53

He actuallly got us 'card check?' yallerdawg Jun 2018 #55

This is what you wrote BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #58

"The labor organizing bill has languished in Congress over the past year and a half..." yallerdawg Jun 2018 #61

I know the history of the time period has been forgotten BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #71

The Democratic party has helped along labors demise.... vi5 Jun 2018 #45

When much of labor actually voted for Reagan against Carter, that started the whole mess still_one Jun 2018 #50

I think you have to go back a bit further to the last time progressive Democrats were dominant yurbud Jun 2018 #65

those "Reagan Democrats" came at the end of decades of progressive rule yurbud Jun 2018 #66

That point I whole heartedly agree with you still_one Jun 2018 #73

Money is not speech ... aggiesal Jun 2018 #14

From scotusblog - asiliveandbreathe Jun 2018 #15

Congratulations to those "progressive" anti-Hillary bashers ... SFnomad Jun 2018 #17

Huh? nolabels Jun 2018 #69

The point being made here isn't the least bit complicated ... mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #77

Tomorrow you might also get up and blame Bernie for the sun coming up nolabels Jun 2018 #83

I didn't say it was MY point ;) mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #84

I don't get why everybody has all these ideas is was the people on our side that do these things nolabels Jun 2018 #85

Guess that'd depend on the definition of 'our side' though, wouldn't it? mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #86

It's allowing the equivalent of legal scabs getting the benefits without paying for the costs. no_hypocrisy Jun 2018 #19

yep - as a former CWA member, still card carry in retirement..the stewards who asiliveandbreathe Jun 2018 #24

Where were these voters in those critical swing states when every Democrat who ran for Senate in still_one Jun 2018 #21

Moving to a civilized country is looking better and better Union Label Jun 2018 #22

I want to move out of this country so bad. OliverQ Jun 2018 #38

Was both a non-dues paying and dues-paying DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #23

Good argument - I didn't know a fee was charged to a non-dues paying member.. asiliveandbreathe Jun 2018 #26

Public sector unions have lost a lot of bargaining power DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #27

From scotusblog.... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2018 #29

As a public school teacher, this really sucks... bluehen Jun 2018 #30

I'm payroll/benefits manager of a school district Freddie Jun 2018 #36

Why should non-members receive any union benefits? BlueIdaho Jun 2018 #39

Then Unions should not be required to help out those that opt out Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #31

That will require a change in the law FBaggins Jun 2018 #43

Exactly. The unions should not legally be required to represent non-paying members. Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #59

Stake to the heart is a great word for it ... as in ... without this law/these fees ... mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #78

Cheating at elections... Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #33

2 minutes ago They are done. No retirement announcements from any justices. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #34

AG Sessions brags that administration won all 4 cases where Justice changed positions from Obama adm mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #37

I hate fucking "freeloading scabs"....................... turbinetree Jun 2018 #40

Paying dues for UNION wages limits a persons right to free speech?? BS.......... Bengus81 Jun 2018 #46

I wonder how the police unions will handle it? They will still have ti provide lawyers for non dues LiberalArkie Jun 2018 #51

"Conservatives" my ass WorkDoctor Jun 2018 #52

next up: the deconstruction of workers rights. Javaman Jun 2018 #54

"Elections have consequences" GatoGordo Jun 2018 #60

Congrats, purists! EllieBC Jun 2018 #62

the decision is based on a lie. Even in deep blue California, political money is a separate, opt in yurbud Jun 2018 #64

Seems fair to not require everyone to pay dues, if you also don't require everyone to get benefits. MadDAsHell Jun 2018 #67

Used to be if you want to work at a union 'shop' you paid full dues. Cons have slowly eviscerated mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #80

The same argument could be applied for taxes under truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #68

Court's out for the Summer! mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2018 #72

Does that mean taxes are free speech too? harun Jun 2018 #74

"unconstitutiona" they really are making this shit up as they go along. Mr. Sparkle Jun 2018 #75

I worked with a guy Turbineguy Jun 2018 #76

As a shop steward for a public employee union angrychair Jun 2018 #79

The labor laws of the Depression Era are DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #88