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54. Trump thinks of this as a negotiating point with the members of NATO.

Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:14 PM

Jun 2018

He is throwing his weight around (sorry for that visual) to make him look like he is an effective leader. When he successfully ticks them off, he can run to Putin with a win for himself. He doesn't care about the country or the world. It is all about what business deals will be available to him and his family after his exit. His goal is a self serving business strategy for the future, not a benevolent governing one.

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U.S. Assessing Cost Of Keeping Troops In Germany As Trump Battles With Europe [View all] appalachiablue Jun 2018 OP

What's he going to do now, pull us out of NATO? He's such a jackass. YOHABLO Jun 2018 #1

You took the words right out of my mouth. MBS Jun 2018 #48

Yes. tavernier Jun 2018 #61

That's where our troops need to be Yupster Jul 2018 #65

the alliances that have kept us all safe since WW2 are crumbling... Takket Jun 2018 #2

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There is zero chance of Donnie slashing the military budget unblock Jun 2018 #6

We have a trade deficit with EU quartz007 Jun 2018 #7

Wrong thread? unblock Jun 2018 #11

I think he is on the wrong site. GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #23

Ugh! That's trade in goods and NOT the whole picture... paleotn Jun 2018 #45

Actually, some do and many are heading that way. GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #28

Yeah, the whole "Russia would crush Europe" thing is nonsense. Jedi Guy Jun 2018 #56

Elvis Goes To Germany 1958. (Couldn't omit this one. :)) appalachiablue Jun 2018 #60

how many soldiers does it take to run the camps? nt msongs Jun 2018 #3

I'm ex NATO and believe that we need to shake Germany and some countries out of their free ride braddy Jun 2018 #5

I'm the son of a holocaust survivor and I don't believe a more militarized germany is a good thing unblock Jun 2018 #8

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Oh please. This is an idiotic trump lie. Du'ers should know better unblock Jun 2018 #15

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #21

Removing our troops would be incredibly stupid and dangerous even if Germany went to 2% unblock Jun 2018 #24

Well about 100% of German defense outlays are on NATO GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #34

The US has 1.3m active duty personnel. Calista241 Jun 2018 #58

That few? So way less than 1% of GDP goes to NATO GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #59

The Germans need to quit freeloading off our treasure and GIs. By the way, my dad fought the Germans braddy Jun 2018 #12

It would not really meaningfully change anything for us if they went from 1.2% to 2.0%. unblock Jun 2018 #18

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Let's say Germany spent an extra $30 billion on their military unblock Jun 2018 #25

Thirty billion pumped into a local purely NATO military would help greatly, and getting serious braddy Jun 2018 #31

You're making wild assertions that don't hold water unblock Jun 2018 #36

+10 quartz007 Jun 2018 #9

Leave, Germany will be ok. Iliyah Jun 2018 #13

Yes, as the strongest economy in EU quartz007 Jun 2018 #14

Germany probably would. The Baltic states and Poland, that's another story. unblock Jun 2018 #16

That's where our troops should be Yupster Jul 2018 #66

US troops in Germany haven't been about Germany since 1945. meadowlander Jun 2018 #17

Luftwaffe readiness rates have been beyond abysmal lately. Pope George Ringo II Jun 2018 #52

Not really DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #57

Yep, not the Cold War West German force it used to be: EX500rider Jun 2018 #62

American troops in Germany guarantees missle response if Russian troops enter Germany irisblue Jun 2018 #20

I bet that's not very reassuring to the Poles Yupster Jul 2018 #67

Poland, my parents ancestral home, is a flat 1000 miles. Tanks move fast, not as fast as satellite irisblue Jul 2018 #69

A pre-Putin gift of withdrawal from Europe. I was stationed in Germany for 7 years and kairos12 Jun 2018 #22

Than I guess it's over Iliyah Jun 2018 #26

Putin asked Trump to do this Napolion Jun 2018 #27

Our nearby state of the art medical bases in Germany lowered Iraq/Afghanistan casualties. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #29

"Good...GOOD!" FailureToCommunicate Jun 2018 #30

Putin will be pleased. saidsimplesimon Jun 2018 #32

trump want out of nato, plain and simple AlexSFCA Jun 2018 #33

If I lived in South Korea right now, I'd be very nervous. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #35

Say hello to the Franco-German alliance. roamer65 Jun 2018 #37

Traitor Trump orangecrush Jun 2018 #38

Wow, republican Draft-dodger-in-Chief is giving the kremlin everything Achilleaze Jun 2018 #39

It's also important to Cosmocat Jun 2018 #40

Gawd, Maher's show last night watoos Jun 2018 #41

I have told everyone Cosmocat Jun 2018 #47

Also Poland, some in Italy; Hungary, Turkey, more. Authoritarian elements rising. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #71

Doubt tRump will pull any troops out.. Maxheader Jun 2018 #42

trump heaven05 Jun 2018 #43

the russian hordes are never coming thru the Fulda Gap. KG Jun 2018 #44

Maybe not, but.... LudwigPastorius Jun 2018 #51

So if we want to stop Putin, let's put our troops there then Yupster Jul 2018 #68

This is all about Russia. lark Jun 2018 #46

Just roll out that welcome mat for Pooty, right Trump? LudwigPastorius Jun 2018 #49

In other news, shaking walls and a loud, long moaning sound were reported in Moscow today NickB79 Jun 2018 #50

Defense is like space policy roscoeroscoe Jun 2018 #53

Trump thinks of this as a negotiating point with the members of NATO. nature-lover Jun 2018 #54

Yes. please: Yankee troops go home! TomVilmer Jun 2018 #55

Doing Putin's bidding Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 #63

Red Don n/t Strelnikov_ Jun 2018 #64

Since US/Russia developed deliverable nukes in large quantities this has all been window dressing inwiththenew Jul 2018 #70