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haele

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18. Again, I'd rather be a Social Democrat - a New Deal type Democrat.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jul 2018

Democratic Socialists are not the same as Social Democrats. Democratic Socialists are closer to Trotskyites than to FDR or LBJ. While the Trotskyites have some good ideas - there still is the element of centralized authoritarianism; there's a lot more political inflexibility to Socialism than there is to Democracy.
The successful Scandinavian governments - the European model in general - are based on Social Democracies, not Socialist Societies.
On edit - I suspect that many people are enamored of the term "Democratic Socialist" because they don't want to be called Democrats and the cute political contrarianism of the "Feel the Bern" movement resonated with them.

Haele

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lol stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #1
As a daughter of a saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #28
As the Grandson of a 32nd Scottish Rite Free Mason AND a 32nd Scottish Rite Free Mason ... stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #41
Too bad she isn't doing something useful like trying to get Democrats to win in the midterms still_one Jul 2018 #2
+100 NT okaawhatever Jul 2018 #37
Save your breath, Cindy. SergeStorms Jul 2018 #3
Seriously right? What business does she have challenging an incumbent with massive financial support JCanete Jul 2018 #5
I know you are being sarcastic but imagine what the money spent on this race where Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #7
These races ARE important. Democracy is important. We disagree now and will continue to disagree JCanete Jul 2018 #21
I am more concerned what Trump will do to our Republican...I just disagree...money Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #44
'while the Democratic socialist meme worked in the Bronx...probably won't work in Buffalo..' melman Jul 2018 #38
Buffalo area is almost 50 50....not socialist Democrats at least when I was there.... Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #42
Bravo Cynthia! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #4
Historically when you move to the right as country... you move to the center first and then to the Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #8
I think we are living in an abnormal historical present LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #20
"This won't work"... LakeArenal Jul 2018 #23
Well said LiberalLoving Lug CanSocDem Jul 2018 #12
DEMOCRATS believe in those things. All those things. LisaM Jul 2018 #29
Democrats at the grass roots maybe LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #40
She knows she has no chance of winning a conventional Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #6
Fine, it will be over soon...but I regret the money that could have been spent on important races Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #9
Oh that is nonsense. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #15
Yes. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #24
Oh, Cynthia. Just stop. Squinch Jul 2018 #10
She should have run for a smaller office. IrishEyes Jul 2018 #11
The same was said about Franken. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #25
There's a difference between a senator and governor crazycatlady Jul 2018 #34
Thanks for the education update. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #36
Ha! Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't even in office yet and she already has coattails to ride Tarc Jul 2018 #13
The NY State Senate races this year are far more important. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #14
SWEET FISH Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #26
lol, so how much has her accountant safely stashed for her in Cayman islands ucrdem Jul 2018 #16
how much? JCanete Jul 2018 #22
Some percentage of her $60 million net worth? OilemFirchen Jul 2018 #32
YUP.. Historic NY Jul 2018 #17
Again, I'd rather be a Social Democrat - a New Deal type Democrat. haele Jul 2018 #18
Thank you. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #43
Best of luck in the primary. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #19
I don't care what she calls herself... DeadLetterOffice Jul 2018 #27
K & R your post. Wwcd Jul 2018 #31
Hey CNixon Dem Socialist, who covered all the qualifiers BEFORE your label became trendy? Wwcd Jul 2018 #30
Oh yeah? OilemFirchen Jul 2018 #33
Explain something CarlosDem Jul 2018 #35
Gov. Andrew Cuomo & candidate Cynthia Nixon are both on my team! Sunlei Jul 2018 #39
I couldn't help but wonder, why doesn't Cynthia Nixon know what a Democrat is? betsuni Jul 2018 #45
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