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LiberalLovinLug

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20. I think we are living in an abnormal historical present
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jul 2018

You described what I assumed would be the road of a Hillary Presidency. Much like Obama's. But that has proven to not work. Because no one is moving left. Republicans are moving right, into Nazi territory now. Democrats have been moving to the center/right (presumably from the left, but the Dems really have no "left" other than a couple of reps). We have been steadily moving to a choice between hard right and center right.

There has been some writing in the area of how big changes in society occur, and just how that is accepted. Some authors believe we don't advance in slow predictable increments, but in dramatic leaps, both big and small. Such as one day even top Democrats were going on about the sanctity of heterosexual traditional marriage, including Obama and Hillary, and in a matter of a few years, they along with a majority in the country back the rights of LGBT to marry. The same leap is happening all across the country in regards to legal pot.

Maybe its the human tendency that if you drag something out, and over analyis it, ideas become clogged in counter arguments, and attacks from those against. Also small tiny gestures towards some future final goal just isn't exciting enough for most humans to get behind.

I think the same can be applied to things like universal healthcare. Or maternity leave. Once enough Americans see enough other Americans on board believing it will happen......even if there is no clear drawn up plan yet......it will happen.

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lol stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #1
As a daughter of a saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #28
As the Grandson of a 32nd Scottish Rite Free Mason AND a 32nd Scottish Rite Free Mason ... stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #41
Too bad she isn't doing something useful like trying to get Democrats to win in the midterms still_one Jul 2018 #2
+100 NT okaawhatever Jul 2018 #37
Save your breath, Cindy. SergeStorms Jul 2018 #3
Seriously right? What business does she have challenging an incumbent with massive financial support JCanete Jul 2018 #5
I know you are being sarcastic but imagine what the money spent on this race where Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #7
These races ARE important. Democracy is important. We disagree now and will continue to disagree JCanete Jul 2018 #21
I am more concerned what Trump will do to our Republican...I just disagree...money Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #44
'while the Democratic socialist meme worked in the Bronx...probably won't work in Buffalo..' melman Jul 2018 #38
Buffalo area is almost 50 50....not socialist Democrats at least when I was there.... Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #42
Bravo Cynthia! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #4
Historically when you move to the right as country... you move to the center first and then to the Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #8
I think we are living in an abnormal historical present LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #20
"This won't work"... LakeArenal Jul 2018 #23
Well said LiberalLoving Lug CanSocDem Jul 2018 #12
DEMOCRATS believe in those things. All those things. LisaM Jul 2018 #29
Democrats at the grass roots maybe LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #40
She knows she has no chance of winning a conventional Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #6
Fine, it will be over soon...but I regret the money that could have been spent on important races Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #9
Oh that is nonsense. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #15
Yes. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #24
Oh, Cynthia. Just stop. Squinch Jul 2018 #10
She should have run for a smaller office. IrishEyes Jul 2018 #11
The same was said about Franken. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #25
There's a difference between a senator and governor crazycatlady Jul 2018 #34
Thanks for the education update. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #36
Ha! Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't even in office yet and she already has coattails to ride Tarc Jul 2018 #13
The NY State Senate races this year are far more important. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #14
SWEET FISH Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #26
lol, so how much has her accountant safely stashed for her in Cayman islands ucrdem Jul 2018 #16
how much? JCanete Jul 2018 #22
Some percentage of her $60 million net worth? OilemFirchen Jul 2018 #32
YUP.. Historic NY Jul 2018 #17
Again, I'd rather be a Social Democrat - a New Deal type Democrat. haele Jul 2018 #18
Thank you. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #43
Best of luck in the primary. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #19
I don't care what she calls herself... DeadLetterOffice Jul 2018 #27
K & R your post. Wwcd Jul 2018 #31
Hey CNixon Dem Socialist, who covered all the qualifiers BEFORE your label became trendy? Wwcd Jul 2018 #30
Oh yeah? OilemFirchen Jul 2018 #33
Explain something CarlosDem Jul 2018 #35
Gov. Andrew Cuomo & candidate Cynthia Nixon are both on my team! Sunlei Jul 2018 #39
I couldn't help but wonder, why doesn't Cynthia Nixon know what a Democrat is? betsuni Jul 2018 #45
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