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Fred Sanders

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77. A foreign power stealing the Democratic parties emails and information and using

Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:17 PM

Jul 2018

it to systemically undermine the 2016 election, AND, per previous indictment, to sow social and political discord has woken me up good!

Napping is what got us into this mess in the first place, no?

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Mueller indicts 12 Russian intelligence officers for allegedly conspiring to hack 2016 U.S. presiden [View all] brooklynite Jul 2018 OP

Boy Howdy! montanacowboy Jul 2018 #1

Springs it right before the meeting with Putin rurallib Jul 2018 #68

My thoughts exactly! firstwife Jul 2018 #72

I was thinking the same thing! mitch96 Jul 2018 #88

Might be related to Manafort trial on 25th or foundational for further indictments coming. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #2

+1 H2O Man Jul 2018 #6

+1 malthaussen Jul 2018 #36

Have they looked at the DNC server? bentornilloed Jul 2018 #70

Yes. Hacked. Paragraph 4 of indictment only D's were targeted. RNCC...nope. Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #74

+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Jul 2018 #71

Excellent. calimary Jul 2018 #73

Good explanation! n/t coeur_de_lion Jul 2018 #80

This is not going to make Matt Taibbi, Julian Assange and Glenn Greenwald happy still_one Jul 2018 #3

I understand animus against Greenwald, but Taibbi? He has been doing hard reporting against tRump. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #18

And his under-the-radar coverage of the NY-19 primary was not to be missed BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #44

He has at times criticized Democrats for doing things QC Jul 2018 #45

oh the horror shanny Jul 2018 #66

His views about trump are irrelevent in what I am referring to. He was claiming for a long time still_one Jul 2018 #50

Thanks for clarifying and providing some interesting info. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #51

I am just expressing my personal impression. Of course it is always easy to throw things out when still_one Jul 2018 #54

LoL... Chicago1980 Jul 2018 #4

I wonder if that was on purpose spinbaby Jul 2018 #17

You know it was LiberalArkie Jul 2018 #25

Quick, is there a bunch of other stuff we can fix while he's gone? (n/t) forgotmylogin Jul 2018 #26

Changing the locks on the WH? nt irisblue Jul 2018 #49

that was my thought. niyad Jul 2018 #61

:D C Moon Jul 2018 #63

Trump needs to cancel his Putin meeting. C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #5

Great point. H2O Man Jul 2018 #7

Trump had a heads-up, earlier this week C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #22

We're going to listen to everything. Corgigal Jul 2018 #28

Found details (answered my own question) Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #29

No, no, surely there's no connection. malthaussen Jul 2018 #40

Let me join the WTF! N/T ewagner Jul 2018 #42

Welcome! There's plenty of F for all. C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #47

Also, Comrade Дональд Трамп has his summit with Putin. Getting this out now constrains tRump. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #8

Sure he can. Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #64

Both of which are demographically dwindling. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #65

What has to dwindle Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #69

Now where, when, and how did the GRU members contact team Trump, the RNC, and Fox News? Botany Jul 2018 #9

Third unnamed leak location exboyfil Jul 2018 #13

Who were these agents conspiring with? YessirAtsaFact Jul 2018 #21

During the 2016 campaign the RNC released anti Hillary talking points that were .... Botany Jul 2018 #37

I think this might be timed for Putin's visit exboyfil Jul 2018 #10

Interesting timing, right before Trump meets with Putin YessirAtsaFact Jul 2018 #11

How is Cheeto going to take this? jpak Jul 2018 #12

He will say its fake news........................everything is fake news turbinetree Jul 2018 #19

Perhaps he'll defect. Harker Jul 2018 #59

I'm hoping his plane will go down FakeNoose Jul 2018 #62

Nice timing Snellius Jul 2018 #14

Specifically, DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 were russian GRU operations woundedkarma Jul 2018 #15

A lot of counts. Press conf. BEFORE the Trump-Putin meeting, so there would be no doubt... Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #16

This lays the foundation for charges against Americans YessirAtsaFact Jul 2018 #23

Maybe. But he went out of his way to make it clear that it did not implicate any Americans... Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #27

I did not understand the statements in the press conference as you did. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #67

He actually said something like ... Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #91

Any Russian nesting dolls inside that Orange Man Baby Blimp? bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #20

There's lots of room for multiple nesting dolls inside of dump's skin erronis Jul 2018 #35

such perfect timing!! niyad Jul 2018 #24

K&R cp Jul 2018 #30

Here is the indictment of 12 Russian officers for election interference https://www.justice.gov/file mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2018 #31

What blame lies with Trump for inviting Russia to hack Hillary's e-mails ??? SamKnause Jul 2018 #32

All very well and good, but... malthaussen Jul 2018 #33

Anyone else kinda bummed this is only Russians? OliverQ Jul 2018 #34

Read Post #2 and #23. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #38

Just a Reminder bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #39

Trump calling on Russia to do this ... Cosmocat Jul 2018 #41

"person in regular contact with senior members" of the Trump campaign .99center Jul 2018 #43

Has been identified as Roger Stone, later down in the replies in the tweet. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #48

Heh: "400-pound guy, you are in the clear." demmiblue Jul 2018 #46

Time for a doughnut grantcart Jul 2018 #53

is it just symbolic? AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #52

No. Read posts #2, #23, and #48. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #56

Symbolic...in the sense a foreign government successfully interfered in the 2016 election....is Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #75

Drip, Drip, Drip, Drip, ...This is just the start, not the end. Stuart G Jul 2018 #57

Does the charge of treason require being at war? Snellius Jul 2018 #58

There will be more Nero Mero Jul 2018 #60

This seems lame, charging people who will never be tried. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #76

A foreign power stealing the Democratic parties emails and information and using Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #77

A foreign power? Has the Russian government been charged? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #78

You can't indict a sovereign state. Need a huge courtroom. Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #79

If you think GRU (KGB) officers do this without direction from the top, we have tower in NYC to sell Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #82

+1 It's not just collusion with just hackers anymore but with Russian spies Snellius Jul 2018 #84

Ah. Like the wobbly middle who are still asleep until then. You should be WAKING THEM up. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #81

Since you have lots of time to sleep, read this devastating 43 item twitter thread on DU Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #83

Wow, Thanks nt Snellius Jul 2018 #86

Fine, but why are only Russians charged? Item 33/34 would suggest Trump should also be charged. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #87

Instant gratification much? This is massive case & has to be done right. Don't go back to sleep. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #90

No worries, I haven't slept well since 11/8/2016 JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #92

When I heard Maddow do her opening on the 2 deep cover DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #85

So now Timmygoat Jul 2018 #89

More helpful to refer to Rs as traitors from here on DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #93

But Trump asked Putin and Putin said, "Nyet, you won election because you are such stable genius." tclambert Jul 2018 #94

For all HACKING DENIERS read this Politico article from August 2016 onetexan Jul 2018 #95

If Russians hacked DNC and passed emails to Wikileaks: They DID affect the election. Snellius Jul 2018 #96