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Jim Lane

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25. Thanks for providing the context. That's illuminating.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:01 PM
Jul 2018

It should be undisputed that the government ought to prohibit certain practices on the grounds that they're inhumane. NFL star Michael Vick spent 21 months in prison for his involvement in a dog-fighting ring. People apparently disagree about the particular practice of kosher slaughtering.

If the government decides to prohibit it, then it makes sense to try to accommodate the people whose free exercise of their religion depends on it, and to make an exception for them. But that necessarily requires that the people entitled to the exception be identified.

We have something similar in the U.S. The Amish have a religious objection to Social Security. When Social Security was extended to agricultural workers, at least one Amish farmer went to jail rather than pay FICA taxes. As a result, the law was amended to provide an exemption for the Amish, but it had to be narrowly tailored. If a bunch of libertarians were to start a "church" that hails Ayn Rand as a prophet, they wouldn't qualify.

Accommodating minority religious views leads to difficult problems sometimes. Governments could just say "the hell with it" and imprison Amish farmers while making it impossible for some Jews to get meat. Or they could go to the other extreme and say that anyone can get an exemption just by asking, meaning that the laws mandating FICA taxes and prohibiting kosher slaughtering are, in effect, dead letters. The only way to avoid those unreasonable extremes is to give some people a preferred status, based on their religious views, and to couple that discrimination with a mechanism for identifying the ones who are chose (pun intended). Of these three bad solutions, the last one is the least bad.

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The Cheetolini effect. sandensea Jul 2018 #1
Actually I'd say it's more the Putin effect. Initech Jul 2018 #16
You're right. sandensea Jul 2018 #17
Very anti-semetic and awful beyond words...k and r nt Stuart G Jul 2018 #2
Unless the gentleman proposing this is a vegetarian, I call bullsh*t Coventina Jul 2018 #3
Malcolm Nances new book pretty much outlines white nationalist and anti-semitic turbinetree Jul 2018 #4
I find myself referring here to Nance's book constantly. Dave Starsky Jul 2018 #15
Well when you do the job like he did..........he then knows how it works, and who is working it turbinetree Jul 2018 #18
He was on Stephanie Miller's show this morning... Dave Starsky Jul 2018 #21
Which is why we need to "demand" from each and every state election person controlling the turbinetree Jul 2018 #24
and if i'm not Jewish and want that same Kosher meat, do I have to register? Javaman Jul 2018 #5
More detail: Towlie Jul 2018 #6
Thanks for providing the context. That's illuminating. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #25
Austria is so beautiful, but it is certainly headed in a dark direction. lark Jul 2018 #7
I was planning a trip to Austria and Italy in the Spring. OliverQ Jul 2018 #12
I'll never have another opportunity to go, so glad I got to see it before it gets completely bad. lark Jul 2018 #20
"from an animal welfare point of view." BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #8
No, kosher killing it's not humane at all DavidDvorkin Jul 2018 #10
Any animal killing-for-food is "grotesque" BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #11
Temple Grandin has written about humane kosher slaughter. moriah Jul 2018 #22
Thanks for that info! BumRushDaShow Jul 2018 #23
like in Nazi germany heaven05 Jul 2018 #9
This had better get nipped in the bud. truthisfreedom Jul 2018 #13
Damn Solly Mack Jul 2018 #14
Adolf, is that you? Nt raccoon Jul 2018 #19
Never forget that Hitler was Austrian nt COLGATE4 Jul 2018 #26
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