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Denmark's Burqa Ban Has Gone Into Effect [View all] appalachiablue Aug 2018 OP
so all the men who are forced to wear them will have to take them off? nt msongs Aug 2018 #1
Police woman and burka woman hugs under the demonstration TomVilmer Aug 2018 #10
That is what tolerance looks like. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #176
Protests over new Burqa Ban in Denmark: appalachiablue Aug 2018 #2
Like men, they can wear hats, turbans and scarves. Like men, they can't cover their faces, pnwmom Aug 2018 #3
Let bare their faces like the rest of the women demosincebirth Aug 2018 #5
Unlike men, they can't wear certain garments dictated by religious law or custom. Orsino Aug 2018 #19
The burqa is cultural. It is not required by any religion. Squinch Aug 2018 #26
Unless someone feels that it is. Then it is. n/t Orsino Aug 2018 #51
And what if I go a step further? What if I FEEL - and this is actually Squinch Aug 2018 #77
Perfect analogy. Merlot Aug 2018 #82
What Squinch said. Nay Aug 2018 #101
See, you're still talking about the burqa as something forced onto women. Orsino Aug 2018 #121
What if a woman truly believes her religion says her husband should Squinch Aug 2018 #122
There are already laws to deal with violence, domestic or otherwise. Orsino Aug 2018 #124
That's a non-sequitur. Squinch Aug 2018 #125
Hardly. Orsino Aug 2018 #358
Unlike most who opine about this, I actually know women who are forced to wear a burka. I Squinch Aug 2018 #359
So you do not want burka wearers punished? Orsino Aug 2018 #361
That would be an assault treestar Aug 2018 #307
The Danish law is a "no face coverings for anyone" law. Squinch Aug 2018 #316
This law is punishing the wearer, not any oppressors TomVilmer Aug 2018 #4
Thanks for your post and video lunasun Aug 2018 #61
This is sad. Doreen Aug 2018 #6
That hasn't happened in France or other countries that have done this. n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #7
The actual number in Danmark is less than 200 women... TomVilmer Aug 2018 #8
Good, I want it out of sight. Merlot Aug 2018 #86
They could always move to a country christx30 Aug 2018 #132
We are not free to make any law we want treestar Aug 2018 #306
How would that happen? treestar Aug 2018 #310
Good for Denmark. Push back on these repressives and their attempts to normalize it. 7962 Aug 2018 #9
Agree 100% - Made up by men, not religion Merlot Aug 2018 #13
+1 rollin74 Aug 2018 #79
Agree. It isn't a choice. bitterross Aug 2018 #315
+1 SunSeeker Aug 2018 #23
+1 frogmarch Aug 2018 #35
I agree. These religions that make women 2nd class citizens make me vomit. WhoWoodaKnew Aug 2018 #115
+1 RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #229
Theyd turn the country into a theocracy w sharia law if they could. mr_liberal Aug 2018 #11
I have mixed feelings, but sure would like to see the burqa gone forever. Chemisse Aug 2018 #12
Seeing a woman in a burqa walking behind a man SharonClark Aug 2018 #14
Especially a man comfortably dressed marybourg Aug 2018 #15
Oh my god... skypilot Aug 2018 #18
Saw exactly that in Sydney several years ago. A woman in a burka pushing a stroller with a Floyd R. Turbo Aug 2018 #21
My objection is neither about religion, nor racism. The state should not outlaw styles of dress. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #16
It prevents people from being ID'd in public. I think the state has a valid interest. pnwmom Aug 2018 #17
That arg falsely links Islam w crime. when ski masks are illegal, ur argument may make some sense. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #20
It is illegal to walk around in public wearing a ski mask in Denmark, per this law. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #22
Imho that is extremely silly. What is the cutoff temperature? (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #27
No, it is not silly at all. People only wear ski masks when skiing or when it's freezing. nt. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #30
It's silly (or perhaps just uncivil) to demand people keep visible faces. Paranoia is not policy. Nt FreepFryer Aug 2018 #31
It is not silly nor paranoid to require people show their faces when in public. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #34
Yes it is. You do not owe your face to others. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #36
Yes you do. Hiding your face is a security risk. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #37
Many things are a security risk. This calculation is being made in part bc the affected population FreepFryer Aug 2018 #58
The affected population could be ANYONE. In the NW, we had a couple women walking around pnwmom Aug 2018 #78
It could be - but in this case it is those who wear the burqa who are affected. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #80
Why do you think they take drivers license photos? To identify the driver. pnwmom Aug 2018 #83
What is the "harm" of requiring people to show their face in public? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #94
Precisely jberryhill Aug 2018 #62
The word "everyone" u use so casually in your post betrays the lack of depth of thinking. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #68
Since when does it matter if people of color are "imperiled"? jberryhill Aug 2018 #70
You must be joking. Did you read this piece? A POC misidentified as a criminal is in peril. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #71
It's not too surprising when a machine set on 80% is wrong 20%+ of the time. EX500rider Aug 2018 #105
Male legislators should not be mandating what women can & can't wear. Taliban & Danes do that. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #325
Face coverings aren't clothes. They're masks. This law applies to both sexes. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #346
Law also prevents LGBTQ from hiding faces when going into LGBTQ events. THAT'S oppressive too. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #326
LGBTQ people should be protected, instead of having to hide their faces. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #345
Given that European countries have more sophisticated surveillance... jberryhill Aug 2018 #52
The existence of surveillance tech does not mean the people an obligation to submit to surveillance. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #53
Read what SunSeeker said jberryhill Aug 2018 #55
Many things are a security risk, priorities of rights curtailed are based in cultural perceptions. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #59
Too fucking bad leftynyc Aug 2018 #140
If they are skiing or it is freezing treestar Aug 2018 #312
Interesting point treestar Aug 2018 #311
No, it doesn't link Islam to crime. It says ANYONE is as likely as anyone else pnwmom Aug 2018 #75
sunglasses? Wide rimmed hats? Surgical masks? Eye patches? Where does it end? FreepFryer Aug 2018 #76
None of those things completely obscure the face except for the eyes, like a ski mask pnwmom Aug 2018 #85
Really? You write face recognition software? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #333
I see mouths and noses. pnwmom Aug 2018 #335
White woman fashion A-OKAY but muslim woman can't make their own choices? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #334
How is that comparable to this? pnwmom Aug 2018 #336
All those things are a voluntary choice. Merlot Aug 2018 #89
Until the woman herself rejects the burqa, your assumption of her opinions is sexist. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #92
Is it sexist to recognize that many women are oppressed by men? n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #324
Not at all, that's a tragic reality around the world. Limiting their choices isnt how to redress it FreepFryer Aug 2018 #329
I'm not saying we should ban their clothing. Just ALL face masks, whether it's a man or a woman pnwmom Aug 2018 #330
Appreciate your thoughtfulness, FreepFryer Aug 2018 #331
Of course not. But is sexist for male legislators to oppress women's choices. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #338
This is not reducing women's choices AS WOMEN. It is saying that all PEOPLE pnwmom Aug 2018 #344
Wait a minute metalbot Aug 2018 #106
You are assuming wrong. There is an extremely low incidence of voter fraud, even in states pnwmom Aug 2018 #107
I'm confused metalbot Aug 2018 #108
No. I'm saying that no one can be identified when they're wearing a face mask. pnwmom Aug 2018 #109
Obviously a police officer can identify a woman, as can the state metalbot Aug 2018 #110
I suspect you are a male. You have never had the experience, as a woman, pnwmom Aug 2018 #111
People can be ID'ed if needed. Otherwise go whole hog and embed a radio transmitter chip in arm. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #323
How? Rip a burqa off a woman who's hit me and refuses to show herself? Or a man under a ski mask? pnwmom Aug 2018 #327
No, duh. Same way as in US. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #328
Of course you didn't take a photo of the driver. You could SEE s/he matched the driver's license. pnwmom Aug 2018 #348
It doesn't matter. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #349
Yeah, it does matter. If someone has hit me, it matters who that person was. n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #350
The license is who that person is. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #351
Wrong. Licenses get stolen and/or used without permission. You can't know pnwmom Aug 2018 #353
Snore. Let the police handle stolen licenses. Don't try it yourself. Gosh. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #354
I have to laugh at all the MEN defending women's "right" to wear those oppressive garments, pnwmom Aug 2018 #355
Of course it is not required. We know that. Duh. :eyes: . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #356
The mask ban here in Georgia resulted from domestic terror. Orsino Aug 2018 #57
Hopefully the oppressed are willing to continue to pay for the delay with their lives and freedom. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #72
If "a cultural subgroup's practice" is cruel and inhumain it should be ruled against Merlot Aug 2018 #84
I agree. Doreen Aug 2018 #102
Been there; done that HeiressofBickworth Aug 2018 #308
Hooray! I hope similar bans are enacted across the western world. Coventina Aug 2018 #24
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #38
Like totally unfair...Xenophobic , Reminds me of the rabid antiabortion freaks in americu.. Maxheader Aug 2018 #25
Tough leftynyc Aug 2018 #141
+1 Coventina Aug 2018 #144
Hey Coventina leftynyc Aug 2018 #145
I know. Thoroughly disgusting. Coventina Aug 2018 #146
They can call me a racist all day long leftynyc Aug 2018 #147
Agree 100% Coventina Aug 2018 #148
the fact they do not tell the difference between a niqab and burja is ignorance DonCoquixote Aug 2018 #28
Unless the immigrant is from KSA, this is a repressive JCMach1 Aug 2018 #29
A nijab that does not cover the face is not banned. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #32
+1. Americans know that racism as foundation of policy is bad. Refusing to cop to it is worse. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #33
It has nothing to do with race. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #39
So some say. But the claim strains credulity. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #40
It bans face coverings regardless of race. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #42
You seem personally invested in negating disagreeing opinions on this. But you can't. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #43
I am not "negating opinions," I am correcting your mistatement of facts. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #44
You are not the people of Denmark. That's not your place. You are one individual. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #45
So now you're telling me what "my place" is? You see no irony here? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #47
You are one person, and your job is not to naysay everyone else here with opinion claimed as facts. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #49
I am not "naysaying everyone else here." SunSeeker Aug 2018 #95
Your posts declare the intent and effect of the policy as having nothing to do with race. Opinion. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #96
Nope, the law does not mention religion or race. Fact. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #104
A law need not acknowledge it is racist in order to be racist. I'm surprised you tried this argument FreepFryer Aug 2018 #113
What is racist about not allowing face coverings in public? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #117
Potentially, many things. Perhaps you should stop talking and start thinking. (nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #119
You can't answer because it's not. Nor are bans on female genital mutilation. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #127
Your error? "misogynistic, backwards, debilitating cultural practices" is opinion, not fact (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #128
You really think burqas and FGM are not misogynistic, backwards, debilitating cultural practices? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #129
I try not to make absolutist value judgments about other cultural practices than mine. It's racist. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #130
Defending FGM on DU!! - who would have thought this day would come? n/t Fix The Stupid Aug 2018 #134
Yep, I think that might be a new low. Coventina Aug 2018 #137
How is it racist? Are we not allowed to stop backwards practices that debilitate women? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #136
Foot binding! It's a beautiful, cultural tradition! How dare we criticize it! Coventina Aug 2018 #138
You are no liberal leftynyc Aug 2018 #142
You're thoroughly incorrect. And you are also entitled to your opinion, as am I. Cheers! FreepFryer Aug 2018 #149
Hahahahaha! That's hilarious! Yes, the west forces women to wear bikinis. Coventina Aug 2018 #152
LOL, the bad logic in your post is what is laughable. Are all women wearing burqa forced? NO. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #154
If they want to live in the west, then they should adopt western dress. Coventina Aug 2018 #156
So you are in favor of forced assimilation? But see no problem conflating FGM and the burqa? FreepFryer Aug 2018 #157
Nope. If it was a cultural issue, then all Muslim men would continue to wear the thawb. Coventina Aug 2018 #159
Yup. But your use of the word "all" in that comment is pure stupidity and racist absolutism. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #162
No, it's merely holding the men to the same standard as the women. Coventina Aug 2018 #164
No, it's holding another culture to your personal (not even your culture's) standards. Xenophobia. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #165
No, if they want to wear the burqa in the land in which it developed, fine. Coventina Aug 2018 #168
No, emigration doesn't work that way, unless it is to a totalitarian state. Freedom of expression FreepFryer Aug 2018 #169
No, there is no such thing as being able to express yourself however you want. Coventina Aug 2018 #172
Wearing a burqa is a form of expression. It is, and should be, tolerated in many societies. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #174
It's cute that you think I would care about what you call me. Coventina Aug 2018 #177
It's super cute that you think you can demand an entire society of people abandon their practices FreepFryer Aug 2018 #179
"Entire society of people"? No, just that Muslim women enjoy the same rights as their men. Coventina Aug 2018 #181
Feminists listen to women and ask them their values. White saviors speak for them without listening FreepFryer Aug 2018 #183
Again with the assumptions. Coventina Aug 2018 #185
i don't believe you. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #186
That's your choice, of course. Coventina Aug 2018 #188
It sure seems to matter to you, as you have been attacking my opinions as if they threaten you. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #190
Haha! Threatened by you? Coventina Aug 2018 #192
Real feminism requires real work. The burqa is not shorthand for male oppression, and outlawing it FreepFryer Aug 2018 #194
Again, assumptions piled on assumptions. Coventina Aug 2018 #197
No assumptions, just your racist words. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #198
No Muslim has ever come to me asking me to protect the burqa. Coventina Aug 2018 #201
Okay, it's been fun but you aren't being honest so I'm done feeding you. See post 200. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #203
Right back atcha, pal. Coventina Aug 2018 #206
Ah, assumptions. If you only knew how dumb that was to say. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #207
Oh dear, and here I thought you were done with me! Coventina Aug 2018 #209
Lol. Last word much? (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #210
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Coventina Aug 2018 #212
LOL! Your shift is probably coming to an end by now. Have a great day! (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #214
My shift? I'm not a shift worker. Coventina Aug 2018 #218
The idea of you spending a precious vacation day arguing racist trash is what's really funny. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #220
You're amusing, what can I say? Coventina Aug 2018 #222
Islam is a religion, not a race. EX500rider Aug 2018 #225
I am proudly culturally biased against misogynistic cultures. GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #332
"I try not to make absolutist value judgments about other cultural practices than mine. It's racist" EX500rider Aug 2018 #224
Dishonestly omitting "absolute" when quoting me and equating human sacrifice to burqa... FreepFryer Aug 2018 #232
I quoted you quite correctly. EX500rider Aug 2018 #235
Your post is Dishonest. U omitted the word absolutist from my quote, and that's dishonest. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #237
Maybe you need glasses? EX500rider Aug 2018 #239
No, paraphrasing me u said NO judgment can be made, a dishonest contradiction of my point. (Nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #240
Well I for sure can be absolutest in my condemnation of certain cultural practices.. EX500rider Aug 2018 #241
Awesome! Enjoy (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #242
There are things that are just wrong christx30 Aug 2018 #347
And your opinion is not a fact. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #46
No, but the assertion that a nijab would be banned is an incorrect statement of fact. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #48
I didn't say a nijab would be. And laws are based on many factors... this one clearly reflects race. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #50
You agreed with a post of pictures of black women wearing hair covering... SunSeeker Aug 2018 #97
That's your opinion, and I never made no such assertion that such coverings would be banned. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #99
No, you typed "+1" which means you agree with everything in the post. A fact. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #103
I can agree with the post without agreeing with your interpretation of the post. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #112
Do you understand this law does not ban hair coverings as pictured in that post you agree with? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #118
Do you understand how to let others have opinions with which you disagree? Like, wearing burqas? nt FreepFryer Aug 2018 #131
So you don't want to answer? Why are you deflecting with insults? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #135
I'm not defl3cting. Why are you attacking those with whom you disagree? Difference of opinion FreepFryer Aug 2018 #150
I see all you have is insults. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #202
Then you aren't looking. See post 200. Ciao! (N/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #204
See my reponse. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #227
Racism bad. Sexism ok? Merlot Aug 2018 #90
Sexism super bad. If women do not voluntarily abandon the hijab, assuming they want to is sexist. nt FreepFryer Aug 2018 #91
Niqab covers the face samir.g Aug 2018 #64
Today they ban niqab, tomorrow they ban hijab samir.g Aug 2018 #66
Can you show me where... Fix The Stupid Aug 2018 #73
"crickets"... Fix The Stupid Aug 2018 #120
Off course *crickets* Because they got nothin' Coventina Aug 2018 #139
No the distinction is clear. What is banned are ski masks and other coverings pnwmom Aug 2018 #88
Lots of religions have tenets/rules that need attacking GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #98
There's been a law on the books in NYC leftynyc Aug 2018 #143
Wrong. Both of them fully obscure the face, except for the eyes. The only difference pnwmom Aug 2018 #87
a niqab is a face covering Mosby Aug 2018 #93
Victory for secularism over religious opression, brave move by Denmark n/t Devil Child Aug 2018 #41
Also a victory for automated facial recognition surveillance jberryhill Aug 2018 #54
And people of color r vastly misrecognized by this tech (predominantly written/trained by non POCs) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #60
Too bad jberryhill Aug 2018 #63
DUers and straight up racist bullshitter trolls. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #65
Well, yes jberryhill Aug 2018 #67
Yes indeed. And Americans are indeed paying attention. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #69
My support for this "burqa ban" does not equal support for facial recognition surveillance Devil Child Aug 2018 #74
Support for Jill Stein does not equal support for Trump either jberryhill Aug 2018 #100
Excellent post. Thanks for the thoughtful comments. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #116
"When in Rome..." saidsimplesimon Aug 2018 #56
good for Denmark rollin74 Aug 2018 #81
The irony is that the people on DU outraged about this ban as somehow oppressive GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #114
+1 Freedom and tolerance give no right to tolerate oppression of others Snellius Aug 2018 #123
Ferengi are similar oppressive. woman are nude,not allowed in public or to own businesses. Sunlei Aug 2018 #126
Good -- it should be illegal here, too obamanut2012 Aug 2018 #133
let her decide. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #151
I'll take false equivalency for $500, Alex. Coventina Aug 2018 #153
Sorry, that category has been done to death by those of you declaring this a one sided issue. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #155
It is one-sided. Against the women. Coventina Aug 2018 #158
Some Muslim women adopt western dress in the West, and not all women who wear burqa are forced. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #160
If they want to wear the burqa, they should go to a country where that is the norm. Coventina Aug 2018 #161
That is a fundamentally racist statement. That isn't your decision to make. It's theirs. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #163
*BZZT* Culture is not race. Coventina Aug 2018 #166
A culture is neither rejected, nor adopted, wholesale. That is a foolish notion. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #167
The individual is one of the cornerstones of Western culture. Coventina Aug 2018 #170
Then why are you interfering with those individuals' right to choose their own mode of dress? FreepFryer Aug 2018 #171
"I" am not doing anything, other than applauding the Danes. Coventina Aug 2018 #173
Your spam posts here do exactly that. A burqa does not erase identity if a woman chooses it. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #175
Hilarious! Because I stand up for women I'm spamming? Coventina Aug 2018 #178
That is the entire purpose of a burqa? Says you... a non-Arab, non-Muslim? Did you study Islam? FreepFryer Aug 2018 #180
Yes, as a matter of fact I have studied Islam. I have Muslim students who tell me Coventina Aug 2018 #182
Any educated educator would never freely use the absolutist language you do. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #184
Again, projection. Coventina Aug 2018 #187
Not projection. You used absolutist lterms inappropriate to the realities of cultural interaction. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #189
Cultural interaction is what I teach. I am well aware of what is oppressive and what is not. Coventina Aug 2018 #191
Nor is demanding all immigrants to a society assimilate in full, as u did above. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #193
I never said any such thing. I said the BURQA was not appropriate. Coventina Aug 2018 #195
Don't be dishonest. U said "If they want to live in the west, then they should adopt western dress" FreepFryer Aug 2018 #196
The Muslim men seem to be able to do it with no problem. Coventina Aug 2018 #199
All women should be free to dress as they please and to wear clothing that expresses their identity FreepFryer Aug 2018 #200
Tolerating intolerance is not liberal. Coventina Aug 2018 #205
The it's you on one side of this argument, and me and Amnesty International on the other. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #208
That's fine. Like I said, I care not what you think of me. Coventina Aug 2018 #211
I value the opinions of the world's human rights authorities over anecdotes deployed to racist ends FreepFryer Aug 2018 #213
If being anti-burqa is YOUR definition of racist, then there are a LOT of "racists" here on DU. Coventina Aug 2018 #215
And, thankfully, those racists are still the minority. The OP is clear... FreepFryer Aug 2018 #217
Then, the burqa, by definition, cannot be worn by women. Coventina Aug 2018 #219
Says you. And since you are not a woman who wears one, it's not your call to make for them. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #221
And, as I've said before, I had nothing to do with this decision, I merely applaud it. Coventina Aug 2018 #223
This does not criminalize clothing, it criminalizes covering your face. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #226
Sunseeker, meet Coventina. You seem to disagree with each other about the legality of the burqa. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #234
No, women's equality is more important to me than the burqa. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #245
Me too. But I wouldn't presume to ban it outright, I would let Muslim women decide for themselves. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #246
No, that's not equality, that is letting misogyny rule. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #248
Letting women decide for themselves is misogyny? You can't be serious with this trash. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #249
These practices do anything but let women decide for themselves. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #254
You are not the one to decide if another person has an identity or not based on their clothing. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #256
EVERY person has an identity. Even women. I did not decide that. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #259
You are not the one to decide if a person's identity is obliterated by their choice of covering. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #260
The very purpose of a burqa is to erase a woman's identity in public. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #261
A non Muslim can assuredly tell Muslim women the purpose of the burqa? Nonsense. nt FreepFryer Aug 2018 #280
You can't hide from reality. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #283
And you can't deny reality. nt FreepFryer Aug 2018 #284
I never do. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #286
Except when you post opinion and call it fact, as all over this post. (nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #288
Wow. You really can't let this go. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #291
Wow, if you can resist responding, you may be right. Otherwise it's on u! FreepFryer Aug 2018 #292
You keep saying racist. But we are not talking race here GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #337
Thank god you arrived to tell everyone what we were and weren't already talking about! nt FreepFryer Aug 2018 #339
Your very welcome GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #341
The OP says it all... FreepFryer Aug 2018 #216
A burqa obliterates a woman's identity. It constrains women's freedom. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #228
Amnesty International disagrees with you. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #231
Danish culture does not allow the valuing of women as second class. FULL STOP RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #230
Amnesty International disagrees with you. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #233
Then Amnesty Int'l needs to get a clue about the public erasure of women's identities RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #236
Awesome! Let us know how your effort to educate the worlds foremost human rights org goes. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #238
Even Amnesty Intl gets some things wrong, assuming this person speaks for them. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #243
LOL. No way you could be wrong. It must be Amnesty International that is in error. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #244
"LOL"? I don't find subjugation of women all that amusing. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #247
I find hilarious your inability to let a differing opinion stand without trying to negate it. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #250
You're projecting. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #251
Not in the slightest. Have a great day! (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #252
You have a great day too. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #255
Thanks! See ya. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #257
You will. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #263
Wow, issues much? :) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #265
You keep saying goodbye, but you keep posting. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #266
You're projecting. Funny :) (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #267
You just keep making my point. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #269
And you keep making mine. I'm not the one shouting you down. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #275
Nope. No one is shouting you down. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #277
Not in the least. Your opinions are not facts. Let others have their opinions. (nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #282
If you think my statements of fact are opinions, why are you so bothered by them? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #285
I'm not bullying you. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #287
Islam is the new darling of many on the Left.' MicaelS Aug 2018 #253
Islamophobia is not going to take hold on the Left as it has on the right... FreepFryer Aug 2018 #258
If burqa bans are Islamophobic, why did Morrocco, which is 99% Muslim, ban them? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #262
That's a great article, that shows Muslims deciding their own policy, for themselves. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #264
So no one can govern Muslims? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #268
Says who? (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #270
You. You suggested that only a Muslim government should issue a burqa ban. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #271
I did not. How many Muslims are in the Danish Parliament? FreepFryer Aug 2018 #272
Why is that relevant, unless you believe only Muslims should issue burqa bans? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #273
It matters if you value a diverse society of tolerance. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #274
You are the one who suggested a Muslim was not a Dane, not me. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #276
No, I said Morocco is not Denmark. Slow down and take a breath... you're slipping. (nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #278
No, I quoted you. You're the one slipping. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #279
Now you're just lying. I think you have been Trumped . (nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #281
No, I'm quoting you in this thread. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #289
The Danes, whose parliament is WHAT % Muslim? You haven't answered. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #290
You're the one who suggests only Muslims should rule Muslims. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #293
LIE. I said no such thing. You are seriously slipping now. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #294
So why are you fine with the Morocco burqa ban, but not the Denmark burqa ban? nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #295
Because Morocco's decision was made by people with cultural familiarity w the burqa. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #296
And I'm still waiting. What % of Danish Parliament is Muslim? (nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #297
So only Muslims can have "familiarity" with a Muslim custom? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #298
Anyone who had that familiarity wouldn't make the ignorant claims u have made. Still waiting. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #299
Google it yourself. I'm not your research slave. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #300
LIE. I never said that and repeating it won't make it so. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #301
If that's a lie, why are you fine with the Morocco burqa ban, but not Denmark's? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #302
It's gratifying that you must resort to lies to continue your filibuster. Thanks for the laffs! FreepFryer Aug 2018 #303
Trump claims when people quote him they are lying. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #309
Not being a referendum, the Danish Parliament are the Danes of which I spoke. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #313
Again, what % of the Danish Parliament are Muslim? (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #314
I did not ignore anything. You're fine with the Morocco burqa ban, but not the Danish one. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #317
trumpists hate civics, and they despise context. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #318
Again, you suggest that unless the legislator is Muslim, they shouldn't vote to ban burquas. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #319
Not what I said. Your posts seem willfully immune to understanding. (nt) FreepFryer Aug 2018 #320
Right back atcha. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #321
Now you've gone completely down the worm hole! GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #343
Not only that, but doing so is "racist" somehow. Coventina Aug 2018 #304
Lock 'em up jberryhill Aug 2018 #322
Islamophobia is alive and well,even in the "tolerant" West. eom guillaumeb Aug 2018 #305
The good news is 340 posts and only 8 recs shows in how little regard DUers hold racist policies. FreepFryer Aug 2018 #340
8 is 8 too many in my opinion. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #357
"All women should be free to dress as they please" But what if I want to wear a Burqa? McCamy Taylor Aug 2018 #342
If you want to wear a burqa christx30 Aug 2018 #352
How many here know women who wear a burka? NickB79 Aug 2018 #360
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