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In reply to the discussion: Brennan: Trump worked with Russians and now he's desperate [View all]riversedge
(80,727 posts)1. I will add this Editorial from Brennan from NTTimes to OP......
John Brennan: President Trumps Claims of No Collusion Are Hogwash
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/opinion/john-brennan-trump-russia-collusion-security-clearance.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront
Thats why the president revoked my security clearance: to try to silence anyone who would dare challenge him.
By John O. Brennan
Mr. Brennan was director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2013 to 2017.
Aug. 16, 2018
When Alexander Bortnikov, the head of Russias internal security service, told me during an early August 2016 phone call that Russia wasnt interfering in our presidential election, I knew he was lying. Over the previous several years I had grown weary of Mr. Bortnikovs denials of Russias perfidy about its mistreatment of American diplomats and citizens in Moscow, its repeated failure to adhere to cease-fire agreements in Syria and its paramilitary intervention in eastern Ukraine, to name just a few issues.
When I warned Mr. Bortnikov that Russian interference in our election was intolerable and would roil United States-Russia relations for many years, he denied Russian involvement in any election, in America or elsewhere, with a feigned sincerity that I had heard many times before. President Vladimir Putin of Russia reiterated those denials numerous times over the past two years, often to Donald Trumps seeming approval.
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Mr. Trumps claims of no collusion are, in a word, hogwash.
The only questions that remain are whether the collusion that took place constituted criminally liable conspiracy, whether obstruction of justice occurred to cover up any collusion or conspiracy, and how many members of Trump Incorporated attempted to defraud the government by laundering and concealing the movement of money into their pockets. A jury is about to deliberate bank and tax fraud charges against one of those people, Paul Manafort, Mr. Trumps former campaign chairman. And the campaigns former deputy chairman, Rick Gates, has pleaded guilty to financial fraud and lying to investigators.
Mr. Trump clearly has become more desperate to protect himself and those close to him, which is why he made the politically motivated decision to revoke my security clearance in an attempt to scare into silence others who might dare to challenge him. Now more than ever, it is critically important that the special counsel, Robert Mueller, and his team of investigators be allowed to complete their work without interference from Mr. Trump or anyone else so that all Americans can get the answers they so rightly deserve.
John O. Brennan was director of the Central Intelligence Agency from March 2013 to January 2017.
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+1: "This stupidity that a sitting president cannot be indicted does not fly"
lagomorph777
Aug 2018
#10
First of all I disagree with your assessment, trump is worse than pence. As far as I am aware Pence
still_one
Aug 2018
#11
First of all I am not defending pence. The only criteria I was using was as far as I am aware he
still_one
Aug 2018
#29
Ideology Pence is as deplorable as trump. However, guilt by association does not mean some is a
still_one
Aug 2018
#30
I understand, and I have a lot of animosity for them, but I am referring to the legal aspects of it
still_one
Aug 2018
#42
If Pence were innocent of knowledge of the relationship between Russia, Putin and Trump,
Sophia4
Aug 2018
#28
First of all, I am not defending Pence. As I said ideology he is as bad as Trump. Whether he was
still_one
Aug 2018
#33
Now that Brennan is somewhat out of the security bag.................he just let the cat out of bag
turbinetree
Aug 2018
#8