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41. No. He can't turn away any customers for who they are

Thu Aug 16, 2018, 10:33 AM

Aug 2018

Even in the broadest interpretation of where the court was going (they avoided it... but almost certainly would with Kavanaugh), he could turn away a black customer who ordered a BLM cake that said "white christians are the problem"... but he couldn't turn away the same customer if he ordered a cake that said "Happy Birthday".

But SCOTUS didn't even reach that far... which is probably where this case came from.

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Colorado baker sues state officials, claiming continued religious persecution [View all] DonViejo Aug 2018 OP

The GOPee obviously put him up to this. sandensea Aug 2018 #1

I assume you meant Polis Jake Stern Aug 2018 #52

How could a gender change be in the bible, and thus, be a religious belief? SWBTATTReg Aug 2018 #2

They don't believe that gender change is a thing. christx30 Aug 2018 #14

John 3:16 Oneironaut Aug 2018 #50

Haha! jcgoldie Aug 2018 #3

There is NO Christian persecution taking place in this country...... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #4

The most persecuted religious people in the U.S. are white Christians, haven't you heard? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2018 #19

"Forced to bake cakes" Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #5

Another bad SCOTUS decision. dameatball Aug 2018 #6

Yep. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #9

"My religious belief is that women should stay in the home..." DBoon Aug 2018 #13

Yes, that too. Many directions this could go. dameatball Aug 2018 #15

Leviticus forbids a lot of things: azureblue Aug 2018 #20

So if his "religion" allowed race discrimination, he could turn away black customers? SunSeeker Aug 2018 #7

No. He can't turn away any customers for who they are FBaggins Aug 2018 #41

But he was allowed to turn away gay people for who they are. nt SunSeeker Aug 2018 #42

No he wasn't FBaggins Aug 2018 #43

He turned away gay customers when they wanted to buy a wedding cake. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #44

That's an incomplete description of what was alleged. FBaggins Aug 2018 #46

Oh but it is, FBaggins. It was all about WHO was buying the cake, not what was said. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #48

Would he bake a cake for a second marriage after a divorce? keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #8

You know, this is kind of tangential, but Bettie Aug 2018 #16

How does this person stay in business? workinclasszero Aug 2018 #10

IF the cake falls while baking benld74 Aug 2018 #11

ohhh, the pooooooor widdle homophoibc, religious zealot snowflake--I mean, victim. niyad Aug 2018 #12

That's the question I'd like to ask! moose65 Aug 2018 #30

And these are the people PatSeg Aug 2018 #17

my his business falter bigley nt heaven05 Aug 2018 #18

"Phillips is seeking restitution for legal fees and $100,000" left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #21

It is THESE TYPE of religious people that bluestarone Aug 2018 #22

The baker should transition to baking bread bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #23

Persecution? plantwomyn Aug 2018 #24

He's being trolled by somebody. Igel Aug 2018 #35

What a Whiny Little Bitch!! nt SCVDem Aug 2018 #25

SCOTUS did NOT find "previous attempts to do so amounted to religious persecution." bitterross Aug 2018 #26

Remember when Paul Harvey called these frivolous guys, "sewers?" Democrats_win Aug 2018 #27

I think it is amusing that he is being harassed by LGBTQ customers. Nitram Aug 2018 #28

Was there anything inherently transgender about the cake requested? unblock Aug 2018 #29

Law suits don't come cheap. Firestorm49 Aug 2018 #31

He went through Alliance Defending Freedom for the last one jmowreader Aug 2018 #33

Looks like a new cosplay location. Corgigal Aug 2018 #32

a cake that faded from pink to blue - is this a thing? 0rganism Aug 2018 #34

Yes. Igel Aug 2018 #36

i don't know if i'd eat that cake, but i'd watch it with interest 0rganism Aug 2018 #37

lol that sounds pretty fancy jcgoldie Aug 2018 #40

What gives the baker a right to pry into someone's personal business? moose65 Aug 2018 #49

Why do people keep trying to give him their money? RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #38

Because it's not about the cake. christx30 Aug 2018 #39

OFFS, no one "forced" him to go into the business of selling cakes to the public. SunSeeker Aug 2018 #45

Where in the Bible are gender transitions banned? Takket Aug 2018 #47

Probably near where it's dictated that, if someone works on Sunday, summarily execute them. Oneironaut Aug 2018 #51

Has Colorado considered opening another bakery? Nt B2G Aug 2018 #53

Hmm... ck4829 Oct 2018 #54