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David__77

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95. I don't know that.

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 02:01 PM

Sep 2018

"I made a decision in this presidential election that I will run as a Democrat. I am a Democrat now."

"And what I am going to do as the Democratic nominee, if we win this thing -- and I think we have a good chance to do that, is to create a new and different type of Democratic Party..."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kavanaugh-denies-high-school-assault-allegation/story?id=57801261

“I am running as a Democrat obviously, I am a Democrat now.”

https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/2015/11/05/sanders-declares-democrat-nh-primary/75242938/

Subsequently, he declared himself an independent. I didn't locate a quote where he said that he serve as Senator as a Democrat for to a certain date. I can understand frustration with his changes in partisan identification; at the same time, I'm not sure I consider that a lie. That said, he could have made other statements I didn't see that constitute lies.

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Sanders allies expect him to make second White House bid [View all] left-of-center2012 Sep 2018 OP

... DURHAM D Sep 2018 #1

But surely you'd wake up in time to vote in 2020 right? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #140

But What Primary Would He Win...Under What Party Me. Sep 2018 #161

Maybe you missed this part LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #165

I Haven't Missed A Thing Me. Sep 2018 #168

So... LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #170

First Me. Sep 2018 #171

sigh LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #173

You're right on so many levels... one can only hope Bernie runs again. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #181

Then why isn't he President today? George II Sep 2018 #203

America wasn't ready for him then. zanana1 Sep 2018 #208

The choices in the poll for most popular were: betsuni Sep 2018 #193

That's the other skewed poll of cherry- picked"politicians" to choose from... George II Sep 2018 #195

Oops! I forgot about the most popular Senator one. betsuni Sep 2018 #199

Among all 600,000 constituents!!! George II Sep 2018 #202

They really love Bernie's status quo! betsuni Sep 2018 #206

Here we go with that "most popular" thing again? George II Sep 2018 #194

Why? Me. Sep 2018 #2

Great minds... Cary Sep 2018 #7

Agreed. democratisphere Sep 2018 #30

Heavy is right pandr32 Sep 2018 #32

He will NO MATTER WHAT, because it is about him, really. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #52

Absolutely it is!! Not sure why voters can't see it Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #93

And for very other politician on the planet, its NOT about them LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #124

Which has ZIP to do with what I was responding to, I responded to someone Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #125

what? "who would bow down"? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #131

I got you confused with this Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #139

Well if the DNC says he can run as a Democrat, then he is by all intents LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #144

Here is what I dont get, why do you not have the SAME suspicions when someone refuses to release Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #145

Because of his track record, he has a lot of rope. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #164

Comparing his tax return release to trumps is irrelevant.... George II Sep 2018 #172

"but what about his tax returns?" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #175

Luckily ballot access laws in a couple blue states will be in effect for 2020 Gothmog Sep 2018 #176

No it doesn't. Tax returns sounds nothing like emails. George II Sep 2018 #198

The Iran deal is still going on with other countries JonLP24 Sep 2018 #190

The US Senate didn't vote for other countries and... George II Sep 2018 #196

He voted against the sanctions for Iran JonLP24 Sep 2018 #197

He voted against the bill, not just half of it. George II Sep 2018 #200

Because of the Iran sanctions JonLP24 Sep 2018 #201

No matter what he and his supporters claim, he voted against Russia sanctions George II Sep 2018 #204

And dread. kstewart33 Sep 2018 #73

In my case it wasn't fatigue. George II Sep 2018 #133

I'm tired of the B.S. Cary Sep 2018 #138

Good question. He is not using our party again. True Blue American Sep 2018 #41

The DNC passed a rule relating to candidate qualifications. David__77 Sep 2018 #42

Is the 57% who did NOT vote murielm99 Sep 2018 #71

Of course. Sanders didn't win the nomination. David__77 Sep 2018 #75

Then why did you bring it up? George II Sep 2018 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Sep 2018 #166

Absolutely... as it should be. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #96

That's a red sneaker! George II Sep 2018 #162

Not to refight the primaries (which you did) but how much of that 43%... George II Sep 2018 #132

Yet that is not what he does in the Senate bottomofthehill Sep 2018 #192

if a Democrat announced who he felt would actually pursue a similar agenda... yurbud Sep 2018 #46

Never, many existing Democrats who are in the house or senate now Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #55

Correct Me. Sep 2018 #135

I Salute Your Optimism Me. Sep 2018 #65

Like he did in the 2016 general election campaign? George II Sep 2018 #163

That was exactly my question. Even many of the candidates he supported have lost. George II Sep 2018 #127

He'll lose again Renew Deal Sep 2018 #3

Why? Cary Sep 2018 #4

Perhaps It's The Money Me. Sep 2018 #15

Hillary stayed in until the bitter end in 2008 & it didn't hurt Obama at all. yurbud Sep 2018 #48

Well, considering they were practically tied all american girl Sep 2018 #72

Hillary Clinton is a Democrat Cary Sep 2018 #115

Quite Me. Sep 2018 #130

No, she didn't mcar Sep 2018 #150

There's always a WhataboutHillary that isn't even true. betsuni Sep 2018 #189

Three points: George II Sep 2018 #160

Don't remind me! Was awful how Obama was treated by many of her supporters. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #182

Here we go again. awesomerwb1 Sep 2018 #5

I hope not. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #6

Because the Black voting bloc will turn out in droves for an old white man from Vermont njhoneybadger Sep 2018 #8

I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Sep 2018 #38

What is the source that Bernie was asked to stop it? Omaha Steve Sep 2018 #105

I heard this both from my whip and from a delegate in Georgia delegation Gothmog Sep 2018 #108

That's good enough for me. George II Sep 2018 #129

The National Convention was a mess Gothmog Sep 2018 #174

Damn that JPR post is nauseating. Good thing the Internet is forever. nt Hekate Sep 2018 #142

The JPR posters on that thread are really sad people Gothmog Sep 2018 #149

I trust your eyewitness account, gothmog. yardwork Sep 2018 #146

I was very very upset when this happened Gothmog Sep 2018 #148

No wonder...no wonder...cant say more. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #152

Yep.(nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #157

One would think he would know what his supporters were doing mcar Sep 2018 #151

Yeah, I can just feel the groundswell. They booed John Freaking Lewis at the Convention... Hekate Sep 2018 #141

Susan Sarandon Gets in the Face of Dolores Huerta Nevada Caucus Gothmog Sep 2018 #177

Can the Dems make a rule that only registered Democrats can Frances Sep 2018 #9

DNC passed a rule relating to this question. David__77 Sep 2018 #19

Sanders would have to become a Democrat True Blue American Sep 2018 #50

Presumably he'd have to agree to run and serve as a member of the Democratic Party. David__77 Sep 2018 #57

Bernie made True Blue American Sep 2018 #92

I don't know that. David__77 Sep 2018 #95

NO!!!!! nt jrthin Sep 2018 #10

I hope not Pisces Sep 2018 #11

No! Rebl2 Sep 2018 #12

I would rather have one year of a good president who dies in office than eight... yurbud Sep 2018 #51

Many of us remember Reagan. ehrnst Sep 2018 #158

No. No Sanders, No Clinton, No Biden, No Kerry. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2018 #13

Tom Steyer will be 63 in 2020. And he will be my candidate. StevieM Sep 2018 #27

But I want a candidate under 70 please Freddie Sep 2018 #33

Well, Biden and Sanders will both turn 79 in 2020. And I fully expect both of them to run. StevieM Sep 2018 #40

I agree with three quarters of your statement. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #183

I would rather he didn't. We have wonderful talent in our Ninga Sep 2018 #14

I would have to see what field take shape before deciding on this one. David__77 Sep 2018 #16

Just in time to stir up divisiveness for the midterms... Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2018 #17

I know, it feels like a squeeze bunt play njhoneybadger Sep 2018 #83

Run as what? He made it clear he didn't want to be identified with the Democratic party, by still_one Sep 2018 #18

Look At The Cut & Run He Did In Vermont Me. Sep 2018 #44

It is divisionary still_one Sep 2018 #97

I voted for him in the primary, and voted for Hillary in the general Dopers_Greed Sep 2018 #20

Exactly like me. Chemisse Sep 2018 #23

I can understand your perspective. David__77 Sep 2018 #35

Bad idea, Bernie... CTyankee Sep 2018 #21

Well, there is a certain logic to that DFW Sep 2018 #22

Good it'll give me the opportunity to write in hillary's name sort of returning the favor Fullduplexxx Sep 2018 #24

Sanders supported Hillary Clinton. David__77 Sep 2018 #37

Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #59

What is more democratic than letting the best men and women run and drawing up contrasts Doitnow Sep 2018 #113

Delete - Wrong Placement of reply to OP - See below n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #62

Give us a break Bernie TEB Sep 2018 #25

... BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #26

geeeez,,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2018 #28

FUCK THAT leftynyc Sep 2018 #29

DEMOCRATic Socialist icaria Sep 2018 #102

Spare me leftynyc Sep 2018 #103

Political model icaria Sep 2018 #106

Seriously? Hav Sep 2018 #134

Couldn't agree more. N/t leftynyc Sep 2018 #155

Yes pretty seriously icaria Sep 2018 #185

He's an independent leftynyc Sep 2018 #154

Which democrat is he MFM008 Sep 2018 #31

Better question Freddie Sep 2018 #34

The nominee is responsible for the nominee's campaign. David__77 Sep 2018 #36

Noooooooooo. Control-Z Sep 2018 #39

He will have less support. LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #43

For fuck's sake.... Adrahil Sep 2018 #45

No! sheshe2 Sep 2018 #47

Great ForDemocracy Sep 2018 #49

Better headline: People who aren't Sanders speaking for him just to get their own names out. DRoseDARs Sep 2018 #53

Yep. True Blue American Sep 2018 #60

Talking point: Only reason for criticizing Bernie is "because he ran against Hillary in the primary" betsuni Sep 2018 #167

Thank You for clearing up that poster's misconception Cha Sep 2018 #186

I wish they would listen. betsuni Sep 2018 #187

I don't care for the way BS has conducted himself since Cha Sep 2018 #184

lol fail ! stonecutter357 Sep 2018 #54

2020 is still a ways away - let's just focus on midterms HopeAgain Sep 2018 #56

+1000 n/t MBS Sep 2018 #67

Not this time Bernie. GemDigger Sep 2018 #58

Agree, NO NO NO NO NO onetexan Sep 2018 #63

It was his refusal to immediately support HRC and his donor list. That was costly and beneficial GemDigger Sep 2018 #68

No, Bernie. SCRUBDASHRUB Sep 2018 #61

I'll say it Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #64

This time, he will be competing with candidates like himself ... Bok_Tukalo Sep 2018 #66

Bernie or Elizabeth Warren, I'll be thrilled with either one. Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #69

Same Marrah_Goodman Sep 2018 #88

I normally stay far far away from 2020 projections NastyRiffraff Sep 2018 #70

Go ahead Bernie and AZ Jim Sep 2018 #74

How would that be playing a spoiler? David__77 Sep 2018 #77

The same way he did in 2016.... Adrahil Sep 2018 #79

Lots of Sanders voters voted for Clinton. David__77 Sep 2018 #80

Yes. Including my wife. Many did not. Adrahil Sep 2018 #86

I understand. David__77 Sep 2018 #90

Yeah but it is made worse if the candidate in question is a woman. There is a lot of sexism in our StevieM Sep 2018 #87

No, no, no, no all american girl Sep 2018 #76

Psst. He's still not a Democrat, & this time the DNC won't waste a nickel of their resources on him Hekate Sep 2018 #78

Spoiler if he ran as third party icaria Sep 2018 #104

Our party may include some Democratic Socialists icaria Sep 2018 #111

BS is an Independent who is too pure to register as a Democrat unless there is some gain... Hekate Sep 2018 #116

Many Democratic Socialists are Democrats icaria Sep 2018 #120

Uh-huh. Sure. Hekate Sep 2018 #143

Ballot access laws may affect this proposed run Gothmog Sep 2018 #81

I expected this... Mike Nelson Sep 2018 #82

by definition he cannot both win and put a "Democrat" in the white house nt msongs Sep 2018 #84

He can run as a Democrat. David__77 Sep 2018 #85

I doubt the DNC will allow him a second bite at the apple. Why would they? Hekate Sep 2018 #118

If he complied with the policy, why not? David__77 Sep 2018 #121

The DNC is a big organization, and big organizations cost money to run. It costs money to support... Hekate Sep 2018 #122

I'd rather see him do some Senate work. Maybe put up a few bills, build coalitions, pass laws. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #89

Oh, God no! Please.....don't run! machoneman Sep 2018 #91

The republicans want him to run... tell you anything?? Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #94

This is a good read. Uncle Joe Sep 2018 #98

Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #99

I am a Bernie supporter and voted for him in the primary. But perhaps it's time to pass the torch. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #100

How can Bernie put a Democrat in the White House? He is not a Democrat. PubliusEnigma Sep 2018 #101

GOOD, Let him run as a Republican this time bottomofthehill Sep 2018 #107

Alternative would be third party icaria Sep 2018 #114

Bernie is trying to put Bernie in office bottomofthehill Sep 2018 #169

He caucasus with Democrats and criticize Republicans all the time JonLP24 Sep 2018 #191

I love Bernie !!! SamKnause Sep 2018 #109

Sanders allies have not been paying attention. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #110

no no its time for Warren/Schiff to head the ticket INdemo Sep 2018 #112

Warren said she isn't running Omaha Steve Sep 2018 #117

Really? I hadn't heard that. INdemo Sep 2018 #123

GOOD SkatmanRoth Sep 2018 #119

+ 1000 LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #126

Yes +1000 icaria Sep 2018 #188

How is this Latest Breaking NEWS? It's speculation. George II Sep 2018 #128

Bernie pamdb Sep 2018 #137

Damn good news! Devil Child Sep 2018 #147

hopefully he will not n/t chillfactor Sep 2018 #153

I am looking in my crystal ball. I see ... yes, I see Bernie running for president. betsuni Sep 2018 #156

He's going to keep running until one of two things happens.... George II Sep 2018 #159

Russia Bernie...remember you blamed Hillary. Historic NY Sep 2018 #178

Fine by me. Better than fine. shanny Sep 2018 #179

I'll vote for Joe SHRED Sep 2018 #180

Bernie is Not a Democrat dlk Sep 2018 #205

Sanders was surprised as anyone Kurt V. Sep 2018 #207

Locking... DonViejo Sep 2018 #209