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122. The DNC is a big organization, and big organizations cost money to run. It costs money to support...

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 05:21 PM

Sep 2018

...a candidate by giving them access to the name, the mailing lists, data base, and all the other associated stuff that comes with running under the umbrella of said organization. As a general rule, it is understood that candidates "share back," not hog the info (like mailing lists) they have gained. As a general rule, when one has held office a long time, a lot of reciprocity has built up.

As far as I can tell, there's no reciprocity with Bernie. By belonging to NO party, he has never felt any obligation to the Democratic Party whatsoever. He exists to scold us for not being perfect in his eyes.

Do you know the saying: "Don't bite the hand that feeds you"? Bernie bit the hand of the DNC. Why would they work with him again, knowing what they now know? He has made it clear he is not a Democrat.

There's another old saying: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Or as Dubya famously misquoted: "Fool me twice, uh, won't be fooled agin."

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Sanders allies expect him to make second White House bid [View all] left-of-center2012 Sep 2018 OP

... DURHAM D Sep 2018 #1

But surely you'd wake up in time to vote in 2020 right? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #140

But What Primary Would He Win...Under What Party Me. Sep 2018 #161

Maybe you missed this part LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #165

I Haven't Missed A Thing Me. Sep 2018 #168

So... LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #170

First Me. Sep 2018 #171

sigh LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #173

You're right on so many levels... one can only hope Bernie runs again. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #181

Then why isn't he President today? George II Sep 2018 #203

America wasn't ready for him then. zanana1 Sep 2018 #208

The choices in the poll for most popular were: betsuni Sep 2018 #193

That's the other skewed poll of cherry- picked"politicians" to choose from... George II Sep 2018 #195

Oops! I forgot about the most popular Senator one. betsuni Sep 2018 #199

Among all 600,000 constituents!!! George II Sep 2018 #202

They really love Bernie's status quo! betsuni Sep 2018 #206

Here we go with that "most popular" thing again? George II Sep 2018 #194

Why? Me. Sep 2018 #2

Great minds... Cary Sep 2018 #7

Agreed. democratisphere Sep 2018 #30

Heavy is right pandr32 Sep 2018 #32

He will NO MATTER WHAT, because it is about him, really. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #52

Absolutely it is!! Not sure why voters can't see it Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #93

And for very other politician on the planet, its NOT about them LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #124

Which has ZIP to do with what I was responding to, I responded to someone Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #125

what? "who would bow down"? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #131

I got you confused with this Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #139

Well if the DNC says he can run as a Democrat, then he is by all intents LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #144

Here is what I dont get, why do you not have the SAME suspicions when someone refuses to release Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #145

Because of his track record, he has a lot of rope. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #164

Comparing his tax return release to trumps is irrelevant.... George II Sep 2018 #172

"but what about his tax returns?" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #175

Luckily ballot access laws in a couple blue states will be in effect for 2020 Gothmog Sep 2018 #176

No it doesn't. Tax returns sounds nothing like emails. George II Sep 2018 #198

The Iran deal is still going on with other countries JonLP24 Sep 2018 #190

The US Senate didn't vote for other countries and... George II Sep 2018 #196

He voted against the sanctions for Iran JonLP24 Sep 2018 #197

He voted against the bill, not just half of it. George II Sep 2018 #200

Because of the Iran sanctions JonLP24 Sep 2018 #201

No matter what he and his supporters claim, he voted against Russia sanctions George II Sep 2018 #204

And dread. kstewart33 Sep 2018 #73

In my case it wasn't fatigue. George II Sep 2018 #133

I'm tired of the B.S. Cary Sep 2018 #138

Good question. He is not using our party again. True Blue American Sep 2018 #41

The DNC passed a rule relating to candidate qualifications. David__77 Sep 2018 #42

Is the 57% who did NOT vote murielm99 Sep 2018 #71

Of course. Sanders didn't win the nomination. David__77 Sep 2018 #75

Then why did you bring it up? George II Sep 2018 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Sep 2018 #166

Absolutely... as it should be. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #96

That's a red sneaker! George II Sep 2018 #162

Not to refight the primaries (which you did) but how much of that 43%... George II Sep 2018 #132

Yet that is not what he does in the Senate bottomofthehill Sep 2018 #192

if a Democrat announced who he felt would actually pursue a similar agenda... yurbud Sep 2018 #46

Never, many existing Democrats who are in the house or senate now Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #55

Correct Me. Sep 2018 #135

I Salute Your Optimism Me. Sep 2018 #65

Like he did in the 2016 general election campaign? George II Sep 2018 #163

That was exactly my question. Even many of the candidates he supported have lost. George II Sep 2018 #127

He'll lose again Renew Deal Sep 2018 #3

Why? Cary Sep 2018 #4

Perhaps It's The Money Me. Sep 2018 #15

Hillary stayed in until the bitter end in 2008 & it didn't hurt Obama at all. yurbud Sep 2018 #48

Well, considering they were practically tied all american girl Sep 2018 #72

Hillary Clinton is a Democrat Cary Sep 2018 #115

Quite Me. Sep 2018 #130

No, she didn't mcar Sep 2018 #150

There's always a WhataboutHillary that isn't even true. betsuni Sep 2018 #189

Three points: George II Sep 2018 #160

Don't remind me! Was awful how Obama was treated by many of her supporters. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #182

Here we go again. awesomerwb1 Sep 2018 #5

I hope not. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #6

Because the Black voting bloc will turn out in droves for an old white man from Vermont njhoneybadger Sep 2018 #8

I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Sep 2018 #38

What is the source that Bernie was asked to stop it? Omaha Steve Sep 2018 #105

I heard this both from my whip and from a delegate in Georgia delegation Gothmog Sep 2018 #108

That's good enough for me. George II Sep 2018 #129

The National Convention was a mess Gothmog Sep 2018 #174

Damn that JPR post is nauseating. Good thing the Internet is forever. nt Hekate Sep 2018 #142

The JPR posters on that thread are really sad people Gothmog Sep 2018 #149

I trust your eyewitness account, gothmog. yardwork Sep 2018 #146

I was very very upset when this happened Gothmog Sep 2018 #148

No wonder...no wonder...cant say more. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #152

Yep.(nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #157

One would think he would know what his supporters were doing mcar Sep 2018 #151

Yeah, I can just feel the groundswell. They booed John Freaking Lewis at the Convention... Hekate Sep 2018 #141

Susan Sarandon Gets in the Face of Dolores Huerta Nevada Caucus Gothmog Sep 2018 #177

Can the Dems make a rule that only registered Democrats can Frances Sep 2018 #9

DNC passed a rule relating to this question. David__77 Sep 2018 #19

Sanders would have to become a Democrat True Blue American Sep 2018 #50

Presumably he'd have to agree to run and serve as a member of the Democratic Party. David__77 Sep 2018 #57

Bernie made True Blue American Sep 2018 #92

I don't know that. David__77 Sep 2018 #95

NO!!!!! nt jrthin Sep 2018 #10

I hope not Pisces Sep 2018 #11

No! Rebl2 Sep 2018 #12

I would rather have one year of a good president who dies in office than eight... yurbud Sep 2018 #51

Many of us remember Reagan. ehrnst Sep 2018 #158

No. No Sanders, No Clinton, No Biden, No Kerry. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2018 #13

Tom Steyer will be 63 in 2020. And he will be my candidate. StevieM Sep 2018 #27

But I want a candidate under 70 please Freddie Sep 2018 #33

Well, Biden and Sanders will both turn 79 in 2020. And I fully expect both of them to run. StevieM Sep 2018 #40

I agree with three quarters of your statement. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #183

I would rather he didn't. We have wonderful talent in our Ninga Sep 2018 #14

I would have to see what field take shape before deciding on this one. David__77 Sep 2018 #16

Just in time to stir up divisiveness for the midterms... Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2018 #17

I know, it feels like a squeeze bunt play njhoneybadger Sep 2018 #83

Run as what? He made it clear he didn't want to be identified with the Democratic party, by still_one Sep 2018 #18

Look At The Cut & Run He Did In Vermont Me. Sep 2018 #44

It is divisionary still_one Sep 2018 #97

I voted for him in the primary, and voted for Hillary in the general Dopers_Greed Sep 2018 #20

Exactly like me. Chemisse Sep 2018 #23

I can understand your perspective. David__77 Sep 2018 #35

Bad idea, Bernie... CTyankee Sep 2018 #21

Well, there is a certain logic to that DFW Sep 2018 #22

Good it'll give me the opportunity to write in hillary's name sort of returning the favor Fullduplexxx Sep 2018 #24

Sanders supported Hillary Clinton. David__77 Sep 2018 #37

Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #59

What is more democratic than letting the best men and women run and drawing up contrasts Doitnow Sep 2018 #113

Delete - Wrong Placement of reply to OP - See below n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #62

Give us a break Bernie TEB Sep 2018 #25

... BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #26

geeeez,,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2018 #28

FUCK THAT leftynyc Sep 2018 #29

DEMOCRATic Socialist icaria Sep 2018 #102

Spare me leftynyc Sep 2018 #103

Political model icaria Sep 2018 #106

Seriously? Hav Sep 2018 #134

Couldn't agree more. N/t leftynyc Sep 2018 #155

Yes pretty seriously icaria Sep 2018 #185

He's an independent leftynyc Sep 2018 #154

Which democrat is he MFM008 Sep 2018 #31

Better question Freddie Sep 2018 #34

The nominee is responsible for the nominee's campaign. David__77 Sep 2018 #36

Noooooooooo. Control-Z Sep 2018 #39

He will have less support. LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #43

For fuck's sake.... Adrahil Sep 2018 #45

No! sheshe2 Sep 2018 #47

Great ForDemocracy Sep 2018 #49

Better headline: People who aren't Sanders speaking for him just to get their own names out. DRoseDARs Sep 2018 #53

Yep. True Blue American Sep 2018 #60

Talking point: Only reason for criticizing Bernie is "because he ran against Hillary in the primary" betsuni Sep 2018 #167

Thank You for clearing up that poster's misconception Cha Sep 2018 #186

I wish they would listen. betsuni Sep 2018 #187

I don't care for the way BS has conducted himself since Cha Sep 2018 #184

lol fail ! stonecutter357 Sep 2018 #54

2020 is still a ways away - let's just focus on midterms HopeAgain Sep 2018 #56

+1000 n/t MBS Sep 2018 #67

Not this time Bernie. GemDigger Sep 2018 #58

Agree, NO NO NO NO NO onetexan Sep 2018 #63

It was his refusal to immediately support HRC and his donor list. That was costly and beneficial GemDigger Sep 2018 #68

No, Bernie. SCRUBDASHRUB Sep 2018 #61

I'll say it Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #64

This time, he will be competing with candidates like himself ... Bok_Tukalo Sep 2018 #66

Bernie or Elizabeth Warren, I'll be thrilled with either one. Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #69

Same Marrah_Goodman Sep 2018 #88

I normally stay far far away from 2020 projections NastyRiffraff Sep 2018 #70

Go ahead Bernie and AZ Jim Sep 2018 #74

How would that be playing a spoiler? David__77 Sep 2018 #77

The same way he did in 2016.... Adrahil Sep 2018 #79

Lots of Sanders voters voted for Clinton. David__77 Sep 2018 #80

Yes. Including my wife. Many did not. Adrahil Sep 2018 #86

I understand. David__77 Sep 2018 #90

Yeah but it is made worse if the candidate in question is a woman. There is a lot of sexism in our StevieM Sep 2018 #87

No, no, no, no all american girl Sep 2018 #76

Psst. He's still not a Democrat, & this time the DNC won't waste a nickel of their resources on him Hekate Sep 2018 #78

Spoiler if he ran as third party icaria Sep 2018 #104

Our party may include some Democratic Socialists icaria Sep 2018 #111

BS is an Independent who is too pure to register as a Democrat unless there is some gain... Hekate Sep 2018 #116

Many Democratic Socialists are Democrats icaria Sep 2018 #120

Uh-huh. Sure. Hekate Sep 2018 #143

Ballot access laws may affect this proposed run Gothmog Sep 2018 #81

I expected this... Mike Nelson Sep 2018 #82

by definition he cannot both win and put a "Democrat" in the white house nt msongs Sep 2018 #84

He can run as a Democrat. David__77 Sep 2018 #85

I doubt the DNC will allow him a second bite at the apple. Why would they? Hekate Sep 2018 #118

If he complied with the policy, why not? David__77 Sep 2018 #121

The DNC is a big organization, and big organizations cost money to run. It costs money to support... Hekate Sep 2018 #122

I'd rather see him do some Senate work. Maybe put up a few bills, build coalitions, pass laws. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #89

Oh, God no! Please.....don't run! machoneman Sep 2018 #91

The republicans want him to run... tell you anything?? Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #94

This is a good read. Uncle Joe Sep 2018 #98

Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #99

I am a Bernie supporter and voted for him in the primary. But perhaps it's time to pass the torch. YOHABLO Sep 2018 #100

How can Bernie put a Democrat in the White House? He is not a Democrat. PubliusEnigma Sep 2018 #101

GOOD, Let him run as a Republican this time bottomofthehill Sep 2018 #107

Alternative would be third party icaria Sep 2018 #114

Bernie is trying to put Bernie in office bottomofthehill Sep 2018 #169

He caucasus with Democrats and criticize Republicans all the time JonLP24 Sep 2018 #191

I love Bernie !!! SamKnause Sep 2018 #109

Sanders allies have not been paying attention. OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #110

no no its time for Warren/Schiff to head the ticket INdemo Sep 2018 #112

Warren said she isn't running Omaha Steve Sep 2018 #117

Really? I hadn't heard that. INdemo Sep 2018 #123

GOOD SkatmanRoth Sep 2018 #119

+ 1000 LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #126

Yes +1000 icaria Sep 2018 #188

How is this Latest Breaking NEWS? It's speculation. George II Sep 2018 #128

Bernie pamdb Sep 2018 #137

Damn good news! Devil Child Sep 2018 #147

hopefully he will not n/t chillfactor Sep 2018 #153

I am looking in my crystal ball. I see ... yes, I see Bernie running for president. betsuni Sep 2018 #156

He's going to keep running until one of two things happens.... George II Sep 2018 #159

Russia Bernie...remember you blamed Hillary. Historic NY Sep 2018 #178

Fine by me. Better than fine. shanny Sep 2018 #179

I'll vote for Joe SHRED Sep 2018 #180

Bernie is Not a Democrat dlk Sep 2018 #205

Sanders was surprised as anyone Kurt V. Sep 2018 #207

Locking... DonViejo Sep 2018 #209