Latest Breaking News

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

6. But if we didn't have Manchin or someone like him, it would be a real Republican.

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 09:48 PM

Sep 2018

The candidates reflect the people who live there. If it were a Republican, he would vote with the Republicans almost 100% of the time, if not 100%. A conservative Democrat votes with the Democrats most of the time, but sometimes w/the Republicans, because of his constituents. And because he's a Democrat, he goes on the Dem. side of the aisle and counts to give the Dems a majority sometimes. So it's a good thing the Senator is a Democrat, even if he is conservative. That conservative area is not going to vote for a traditional Democrat.

The Democratic Party doesn't press its members to vote party line as hard as the Republican leaders do, but I wish they would.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

66 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Red-state Democrats refuse to come out against Kavanaugh [View all] Calista241 Sep 2018 OP

This is why we *SHOULD* not expand our tent to include right-wing Democrats idcdu Sep 2018 #1

But if we didn't have Manchin or someone like him, it would be a real Republican. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #6

Hard situation but even Joe said a month ago that he has 800,000 appalachiablue Sep 2018 #22

Of course it's better to have Manchin SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #24

I'd much rather have robert byrd. scipan Sep 2018 #54

Just a guess because SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #57

True. I live in a dark red area. There is no way La. is going to elect a regular Democrat.... Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #63

honeycombe8: SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #64

I think so, too. A # of the Repubs here use Obamacare. And rely on Social Security & Medicare. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #66

Wrong. We need every DINO vote for becoming the majority party, and being able to set the agenda. pnwmom Sep 2018 #7

You & Honeycombe are exactly right. 7962 Sep 2018 #17

No, we shouldn't. john657 Sep 2018 #16

I remind you of Harry S Trumans quote idcdu Sep 2018 #60

If it weren't for Manchin, we wouldn't have the ACA. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #42

Uh - no leftynyc Sep 2018 #47

Actually it's why we should have plain talking, thoughtful people who can relate to and be KPN Sep 2018 #58

Your formula would guarantee the Democrats would not have control of any area Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #59

Let's hope they're waiting to see how their constituents feel about it after Ford's testimony. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #2

If These "Democrats" Vote Yes, And Then Lose LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #3

it never makes sence for dems to vote with fascists elmac Sep 2018 #15

It's called "political strategy" SHRED Sep 2018 #4

I still think that if Repubs retain control of the Senate, Thomas will retire before 2020. Calista241 Sep 2018 #5

Well there is one option and that is to increase the number of SCOTUS judges the next time we have cstanleytech Sep 2018 #11

I dont think people would support that. It would just look like stacking the deck because we lost. 7962 Sep 2018 #19

That's not a reasonable strategy. First, we'll have to control all 3 branches of government. Calista241 Sep 2018 #20

I agree with you all! Laura in LA Sep 2018 #29

Ending the filibuster is a good idea. David__77 Sep 2018 #36

Exactly. cstanleytech Sep 2018 #8

Yep. SHRED Sep 2018 #10

Right . . . hatrack Sep 2018 #28

Exactly JonLP24 Sep 2018 #53

Yes! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #62

As far as political strategy goes JonLP24 Sep 2018 #56

Ignore. DarthDem Sep 2018 #9

If kavanaugh will be confirmed anyway they should vote yes Cicada Sep 2018 #12

i think they have permission from schumer, unless it matters. mopinko Sep 2018 #37

I agree Kilgore Sep 2018 #51

Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #13

Do they honestly think voting no to his appointment would make a damned bit of difference? Hulk Sep 2018 #14

And we expect Republicans like Collins to vote with us? These Democrats are cowards. jalan48 Sep 2018 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Sep 2018 #21

They need to get a grip on reality, Kavanaugh has a 31% approval rating Snake Plissken Sep 2018 #23

Ditto! BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #44

Fuck Politico jaysunb Sep 2018 #25

any democratic senator who votes for Kavanaugh should change political partys. olddad56 Sep 2018 #26

Why doesn't Manchin just give it up already meadowlark5 Sep 2018 #27

Of course they should delay committing themselves until all the facts are in. All Senators should. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #30

I disagree with "all senators should." If there is enough spooky3 Sep 2018 #39

Let them posture and wiggle. It's their final vote that counts. Xipe Totec Sep 2018 #31

They are in a tough position, and we need them to win in 2018. What I would like to think spooky3 Sep 2018 #32

No surprise there Puzzledtraveller Sep 2018 #33

In the end they will oppose EricMaundry Sep 2018 #34

Kavanaugh is so horrible there is no downside in not voting for him at this point Cosmocat Sep 2018 #61

These people are elected to lead shadowmayor Sep 2018 #35

They're elected to represent their constituents, not the broader national population Calista241 Sep 2018 #40

You made my point for me I'm afraid shadowmayor Sep 2018 #41

My guess ThoughtCriminal Sep 2018 #38

Good guess. nt SunSeeker Sep 2018 #43

politico.com - clickbait for wonks & nerds. dchill Sep 2018 #45

I think the cover will be in place once Ford has appeared before the committee and torn to beachbum bob Sep 2018 #46

As long as they vote against him I don't care what they say or do not say rpannier Sep 2018 #48

I do not know how any Democrat can vote for him Akacia Sep 2018 #49

two things Snoopy 7 Sep 2018 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Sep 2018 #52

It's their votes that matter, not when they announce their intentions Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #55

Dinos truthisfreedom Sep 2018 #65