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LiberalLovinLug

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62. Yes!

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:59 AM

Sep 2018

the cowardice in here makes me sick. Give the people an actual choice. Virginia voted in Obama.

Offering them a DINO as their only choice is insultingly paternalistic to them. But yes, they have to be able to relate, and get simple, straightforward messages out. They CAN win. This is not the 1950's.

So funny seeing all these pro-Avenatti posts praising the balls of the guy that if any Democrat tried to be so brazen they'be quickly be shoo shooed by Nancy and Chuck. There is still, unfortunately, still an archaic paralyzed group at the top that is stuck in the past, where they just ASSUME that people can't change, can't learn, can't be swayed. Well...NEWS FLASH..they surely won't consider anything else if the national Democratic party treats you like your babysitter who can't handle grown-up scissors.

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Red-state Democrats refuse to come out against Kavanaugh [View all] Calista241 Sep 2018 OP

This is why we *SHOULD* not expand our tent to include right-wing Democrats idcdu Sep 2018 #1

But if we didn't have Manchin or someone like him, it would be a real Republican. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #6

Hard situation but even Joe said a month ago that he has 800,000 appalachiablue Sep 2018 #22

Of course it's better to have Manchin SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #24

I'd much rather have robert byrd. scipan Sep 2018 #54

Just a guess because SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #57

True. I live in a dark red area. There is no way La. is going to elect a regular Democrat.... Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #63

honeycombe8: SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #64

I think so, too. A # of the Repubs here use Obamacare. And rely on Social Security & Medicare. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #66

Wrong. We need every DINO vote for becoming the majority party, and being able to set the agenda. pnwmom Sep 2018 #7

You & Honeycombe are exactly right. 7962 Sep 2018 #17

No, we shouldn't. john657 Sep 2018 #16

I remind you of Harry S Trumans quote idcdu Sep 2018 #60

If it weren't for Manchin, we wouldn't have the ACA. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #42

Uh - no leftynyc Sep 2018 #47

Actually it's why we should have plain talking, thoughtful people who can relate to and be KPN Sep 2018 #58

Your formula would guarantee the Democrats would not have control of any area Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #59

Let's hope they're waiting to see how their constituents feel about it after Ford's testimony. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #2

If These "Democrats" Vote Yes, And Then Lose LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #3

it never makes sence for dems to vote with fascists elmac Sep 2018 #15

It's called "political strategy" SHRED Sep 2018 #4

I still think that if Repubs retain control of the Senate, Thomas will retire before 2020. Calista241 Sep 2018 #5

Well there is one option and that is to increase the number of SCOTUS judges the next time we have cstanleytech Sep 2018 #11

I dont think people would support that. It would just look like stacking the deck because we lost. 7962 Sep 2018 #19

That's not a reasonable strategy. First, we'll have to control all 3 branches of government. Calista241 Sep 2018 #20

I agree with you all! Laura in LA Sep 2018 #29

Ending the filibuster is a good idea. David__77 Sep 2018 #36

Exactly. cstanleytech Sep 2018 #8

Yep. SHRED Sep 2018 #10

Right . . . hatrack Sep 2018 #28

Exactly JonLP24 Sep 2018 #53

Yes! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #62

As far as political strategy goes JonLP24 Sep 2018 #56

Ignore. DarthDem Sep 2018 #9

If kavanaugh will be confirmed anyway they should vote yes Cicada Sep 2018 #12

i think they have permission from schumer, unless it matters. mopinko Sep 2018 #37

I agree Kilgore Sep 2018 #51

Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #13

Do they honestly think voting no to his appointment would make a damned bit of difference? Hulk Sep 2018 #14

And we expect Republicans like Collins to vote with us? These Democrats are cowards. jalan48 Sep 2018 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Sep 2018 #21

They need to get a grip on reality, Kavanaugh has a 31% approval rating Snake Plissken Sep 2018 #23

Ditto! BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #44

Fuck Politico jaysunb Sep 2018 #25

any democratic senator who votes for Kavanaugh should change political partys. olddad56 Sep 2018 #26

Why doesn't Manchin just give it up already meadowlark5 Sep 2018 #27

Of course they should delay committing themselves until all the facts are in. All Senators should. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #30

I disagree with "all senators should." If there is enough spooky3 Sep 2018 #39

Let them posture and wiggle. It's their final vote that counts. Xipe Totec Sep 2018 #31

They are in a tough position, and we need them to win in 2018. What I would like to think spooky3 Sep 2018 #32

No surprise there Puzzledtraveller Sep 2018 #33

In the end they will oppose EricMaundry Sep 2018 #34

Kavanaugh is so horrible there is no downside in not voting for him at this point Cosmocat Sep 2018 #61

These people are elected to lead shadowmayor Sep 2018 #35

They're elected to represent their constituents, not the broader national population Calista241 Sep 2018 #40

You made my point for me I'm afraid shadowmayor Sep 2018 #41

My guess ThoughtCriminal Sep 2018 #38

Good guess. nt SunSeeker Sep 2018 #43

politico.com - clickbait for wonks & nerds. dchill Sep 2018 #45

I think the cover will be in place once Ford has appeared before the committee and torn to beachbum bob Sep 2018 #46

As long as they vote against him I don't care what they say or do not say rpannier Sep 2018 #48

I do not know how any Democrat can vote for him Akacia Sep 2018 #49

two things Snoopy 7 Sep 2018 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Sep 2018 #52

It's their votes that matter, not when they announce their intentions Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #55

Dinos truthisfreedom Sep 2018 #65