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Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
64. Please
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:29 PM
Jan 2012

You sound like a spokesperson for the Japanese whaling industry. Yes, Japan is breaking the law. They are taking way more whales than is needed for scientific research. They are exploiting a loophole and using it to make a profit. You are never going to convince me that it takes 1000 dead whales a year for scientific research, and I don't care who was "very pleased" with the results (could you be just a tad more vague there?).

The law that SHOULD be enforced is the international ban on whaling. Period. I'm even against killing them for scientific research, but even within that loophole, it's pure bullshit to say that any kind of research requires 1000 whales per year to be killed.

And I'll ask you again, since you don't seem to be able to answer the question, what is this "research" that needs so many whales to be killed? All you can say is that somewhere, sometime, some person said they were "very pleased" with what they were seeing. Oh, well shit. I'm super satisfied. Gee, in no way would the whaling industry try and pump whatever limited information they've come up with in an effort to justify their slaughter of whales for profit.

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Are we supposed to be shocked or concerned about this? Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #1
They're protest-business. boppers Jan 2012 #2
You are slandering the Sierra Club Kolesar Jan 2012 #3
Ohh, nice website, wonder what it cost? boppers Jan 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #5
By which you mean "collecting a six figure salary"? boppers Jan 2012 #6
+ 1 nt hack89 Jan 2012 #11
Heavens. Six whole figures? Nearly 2% spent on admin costs? The horror. DirkGently Jan 2012 #14
Well, the other 1% CEOs making millions to run fortune 500 companies agree with you! boppers Jan 2012 #37
Find one that makes six figures instead 7-9 & try again. DirkGently Jan 2012 #40
Wow. They're not allowed to have a website? How about cell phones. Can they have cellphones? DirkGently Jan 2012 #25
"people who are in business" boppers Jan 2012 #38
Yes Non-profits. In the business of doing good, not screwing everyone else. You do DirkGently Jan 2012 #41
Yes, non-profits(!?) who make millions. By "caring". boppers Jan 2012 #45
We perceive a thing in such a way as to better validate our own presumptions. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #52
Sierra does exactly what it claims to do. Sorry, no way to spin that. DirkGently Jan 2012 #62
direct actions are not done for money,. Civilization2 Jan 2012 #9
And god-forbid an activist make as much as a school superintendent DirkGently Jan 2012 #20
They have saved many whales' lives. roody Jan 2012 #13
Agreed. This is the sort of thing that annoys me. TheWraith Jan 2012 #7
Yes don't do anything that is against the law, ever! Civilization2 Jan 2012 #10
Well if our side gets to break the law because we think we're doing something that's right... ProgressoDem Jan 2012 #17
We don't like when Rwingers stomp people's heads on curbs. DirkGently Jan 2012 #22
Well you've got to accept the results of your actions. ProgressoDem Jan 2012 #23
Obviously they are accepting the consequences of their actions. They knew exactly what would happen. DirkGently Jan 2012 #24
I do see what you're saying. ProgressoDem Jan 2012 #27
Yes, Watson plays things up for maximum effect. That's one of DirkGently Jan 2012 #42
In my eyes its not so much playing things up to maximum effect as its lying and twisting the truth Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #46
An example of an actual lie would be more convincing. DirkGently Jan 2012 #60
so in your opinion Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #65
Which fact is not true? You're disagreeing with his spin. The Japanese claim they're terrorists. DirkGently Jan 2012 #68
i think i pointed it out quite well Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #69
Rosa Parks broke the law... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #53
See reply 27. ProgressoDem Jan 2012 #55
Except their side (usually) gets to make the rules. Doremus Jan 2012 #67
What if 'activists' from a right-wing, say Ron Paul organization decided to occupy a building Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #18
Occupying isn't protesting, it's trespassing. ProgressoDem Jan 2012 #28
Japan's Illegal Slaughter of Whales Annoys Me raindaddy Jan 2012 #15
Oh, but Japan's crimes are committed by a state. So they don't count. DirkGently Jan 2012 #19
Yep, we're such good peeps, playing by the rules and all.. raindaddy Jan 2012 #26
How about, don't break international law and illegally slaughter 1000 whales Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #35
you mean except for the fact that its consider legal research by most Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #44
Really? Just who are "most?" Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #47
most countries involved with the IWC since Japan is abiding by article VIII Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #51
Oh you mean governments? Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #54
As i said Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #58
Please Downtown Hound Jan 2012 #64
you know what the IWC is yes? Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #66
yeah well they did this in australian waters PatrynXX Jan 2012 #48
So its ok for the sea shepards to tail the japanese but the japanese shouldn't be following sea Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2012 #50
or you can go to their audited financial statements melm00se Jan 2012 #8
Yep. Sierra's an outstanding organization. Only RW propaganda says otherwise. DirkGently Jan 2012 #16
I see another South Park episode coming up. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #12
They slipped while on board? rocktivity Jan 2012 #21
They're really not very good at "playing the victim" hughee99 Jan 2012 #29
Seems to me the Japanese whalers are "playing the victim". baldguy Jan 2012 #30
The press release is from the Sea Shepherd hughee99 Jan 2012 #31
You think the Japanese offered to return them to their ship? DirkGently Jan 2012 #61
If you sneak abord someone else's ship hughee99 Jan 2012 #63
Um the whalers are bankrupt. PatrynXX Jan 2012 #49
They bankrupted the Japanese government! Holy shit. hughee99 Jan 2012 #56
They're stowaways. They now have to answer to the skipper of the ship. MADem Jan 2012 #32
They understand the consequences. raindaddy Jan 2012 #33
Playing the "prisoner" card when they've trespassed probably isn't helpful. MADem Jan 2012 #34
They should be grateful the Japanese death penalty is only applied in cases of murder and treason. DRoseDARs Jan 2012 #43
I (mistakenly) thought Japan got rid of the death penalty! Even for murder...? MADem Jan 2012 #57
Political context is important to understanding these events The Traveler Jan 2012 #36
Bad move BoulderBean Jan 2012 #39
My wife and I have consistently provided Sea Shepherd with financial support but onenote Jan 2012 #59
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