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In reply to the discussion: Cherokee Nation: Warren's use of DNA test 'inappropriate,' 'wrong' [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)50. lol this has zero to do with tribal customs or Elizabeth Warren
This is 100% about not giving Cherokees who aren't on the official tribal census a mechanism to claim enough Cherokee blood to qualify for a cut in the gambling revenues.
Every tribe has regulations about who gets on the official census which can include both percent of blood relations and residency. Unfortunately there are lots of clan divisions in tribes where one clan gets control and eliminates others off the clan. It can mean hundreds of thousands of dollars per family and those that are in control don't want to lose control to other factions so they don't want outside factors, like DNA tests to gain a foot hold.
Exacerbating the problem is that gambling revenues always decline after a casino opening, partly due to exhausting a pent up demand and partly to other casinos opening in the area.
The Cherokee Harrah's just had a $ 600 million up lift and yearly dividend payments are still declining. For that reason they don't want to add more people to the census and see their revenue decline even further.
https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2014/03/27/revenue-growth-slows-cherokee-casino/6971123/
Theres only so much gambling that can be done, only so much disposable income, Meister said. Youre adding more and more gambling competing for the same dollars.
There are 468 Indian gambling facilities in 28 states, the report said. But there are no casinos in states surrounding North Carolina. The Cherokee casino draws 3.6 million people a year.
The casino was helped in 2012, when the tribe was given permission by the state to introduce live table games blackjack, craps and roulette.
But there could be competition.
The Catawba Indian Nation is trying to develop a casino that promises to bring 4,000 jobs to a site off Interstate 85 near Kings Mountain in Cleveland County. The Catawbas want to build a gambling hall after South Carolina laws blocked the tribes effort to build a casino in its home state. The tribe continues to challenge the laws
Not only are the Cherokees trying to control and limit their census (which is perfectly legitimate) they are using their power to block other tribes from opening more casinos in the surrounding area.
The comments about DNA are not about customs but about limiting the number of people who can claim to be on the census and their method for proving it, which of course Senator Warren is not doing. If they go along with her DNA claim then it could have an impact on others who are bringing legal action to get a piece of the action.
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Cherokee Nation: Warren's use of DNA test 'inappropriate,' 'wrong' [View all]
Jose Garcia
Oct 2018
OP
Whether the Cherokee Nation accepts DNA test results as an indicator of whether someone
Squinch
Oct 2018
#1
follow the money..if a cheek swab can get me annual gambling proceeds...hell yes swab away
dembotoz
Oct 2018
#152
Of course that is the real story, but not one that The Hill would push because that would not dis or
still_one
Oct 2018
#7
Until Elizabeth Warren attempts to apply for Cherokee status he should STFU.
LiberalFighter
Oct 2018
#36
That's right. It was done to win a bet. Nothing more. The 1 million don ivan refuses to pay
Crutchez_CuiBono
Oct 2018
#103
I found out about five years ago that along with being an American (born in Brooklyn 70 yrs ago)....
George II
Oct 2018
#97
Under Cherokee law and tradition, does the dealer have to hit or stand on 16?
jberryhill
Oct 2018
#77
Then he should confine his concerns to the Cherokee nation. Her heritage traces back to the...
George II
Oct 2018
#94
Two stories from The Hill to either dis or divide Democrats. The first one was that
still_one
Oct 2018
#6
She wasn't claiming to be a member of any nation. What does this guy have to say about....
George II
Oct 2018
#8
Wow, brother ... it's not like she's trying to license a casino, nor to get 'benefits'
mr_lebowski
Oct 2018
#11
Well said ... worth asking, does Mr. Hoskin have any comment on GOP Leader McCarthy's brother-in-law
RHMerriman
Oct 2018
#15
By the Cherokee's rules there is a chance she could be listed on the tribe's membership rolls
Bradshaw3
Oct 2018
#21
she is not claiming to be descended from the someone on the Dawes rolls is she?
delisen
Oct 2018
#32
The only two native American Congressional Reps are Republicans from Oklahoma
jberryhill
Oct 2018
#87
Was there anything in her statement in which she was claiming to that degree? No!
LiberalFighter
Oct 2018
#34
I have a right to challenge when his authority exceeds his jurisdiciton.
LiberalFighter
Oct 2018
#38
Pretty damn arrogant, some of us found out about our NA heritage ONLY from research
JCMach1
Oct 2018
#37
It's a sad day when DUers are slamming a tribal elder about tribal customs and laws
Kaleva
Oct 2018
#41
Other than telling white people what to say, you're doing a splendid job of staying out of it.
LanternWaste
Oct 2018
#128
It's a sad day when a Tribal Elder buys into Trump's latest Birther smear, & I mean that.
Hekate
Oct 2018
#58
It's a sad day when we give a shit about red-state local politicians' opinions
jberryhill
Oct 2018
#78
You'd probably not like Hillary if you based your opinion on her by what DUers said back in 2008
Kaleva
Oct 2018
#149
Oh FFS I am sick of this. She never claimed tribal status and has lived her life as a white woman...
Hekate
Oct 2018
#55
It feels like this tribal leader doesn't udnerstnad the context in which Warren's claimed heritage
JCanete
Oct 2018
#63
The Republicans think they have something detrimental about her that will stick.
YOHABLO
Oct 2018
#68
Well, duh, the only Native Americans in Congress are Oklahoma Republican Trump Humpers
jberryhill
Oct 2018
#88
Honest question - why/in what context did she bring this up in the first place, and why is it of any
Kashkakat v.2.0
Oct 2018
#96
Yes I know that - I mean why was her family history and 1 distant relative
Kashkakat v.2.0
Oct 2018
#111
You seem to have walked into the middle of the movie, demanding to know what is going on
jberryhill
Oct 2018
#113
fyi - white people expropriating or exploiting native Am culture/spirituality is a thing - ranging
Kashkakat v.2.0
Oct 2018
#100
I wonder if it is a Cherokee nation repuke group putting this out this statement?
kimbutgar
Oct 2018
#102
Very disappointed the Cherokee Nation chooses to disregard the content
BlancheSplanchnik
Oct 2018
#125