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In reply to the discussion: Trump Mocks France for World War Losses [View all]LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)50. Trump is a fucking idiot.
He thinks Macron slighted the U.S. (probably got that from watching FOX), and is now angry, and insulting our oldest ally, over something that DIDN'T HAPPEN.
PARIS For the second time, President Trump has repeated the false claim that French President Emmanuel Macron called for a European army to protect the continent against the United States. Macron never said any such thing.
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Trumps interpretation of Macrons remarks is factually misleading and comes from an interview Macron gave to Frances Europe 1 radio several days before Trumps arrival. What Macron said has been largely echoed by European Union leaders for months now and in fact mimics the same demand Trump has long made: Europe needs to stop relying on the United States for its own defense.
I believe in the project of a sovereign Europe. We wont protect Europe if we dont decide to have a true European army. In front of Russia, which is at our borders and which can be threatening, I would like to start a security dialogue with Russia, which is a country I respect and which is European, Macron told Europe 1.
We have to have a Europe that can defend itself alone and without only relying on the United States in a more sovereign manner, he added.
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Trumps interpretation of Macrons remarks is factually misleading and comes from an interview Macron gave to Frances Europe 1 radio several days before Trumps arrival. What Macron said has been largely echoed by European Union leaders for months now and in fact mimics the same demand Trump has long made: Europe needs to stop relying on the United States for its own defense.
I believe in the project of a sovereign Europe. We wont protect Europe if we dont decide to have a true European army. In front of Russia, which is at our borders and which can be threatening, I would like to start a security dialogue with Russia, which is a country I respect and which is European, Macron told Europe 1.
We have to have a Europe that can defend itself alone and without only relying on the United States in a more sovereign manner, he added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/11/10/why-trumps-explosive-claim-that-macron-wants-european-military-protect-itself-us-is-so-misleading/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f535bdf07944
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He takes delight in the German Nazi's brutal war that lead to millions of deaths.
olegramps
Nov 2018
#37
True though without the US getting involved the UK probably would have fallen
cstanleytech
Nov 2018
#36
True. Though without US banks, Europe wouldn't have had war with such a mighty German army.
Mike Rows His Boat
Nov 2018
#43
I think that, in modern times, backing Nazis is close to the top of the list.
Mike Rows His Boat
Nov 2018
#48
since no one in my family (especially ME) has ever served any nation in any way
flibbitygiblets
Nov 2018
#52
Good thing Macron is a mature adult who won't take that bait of trump's childishness
The Liberal Lion
Nov 2018
#6