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The Velveteen Ocelot

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53. It could be either, but I'm guessing Roberts wants to remind Trump and his minions
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 04:25 PM
Nov 2018

that the judiciary is a branch of the government whose power is equal to that of the presidency as well as Congress, and that it will deal with matters before it according to the law and not with reference to how or by whom a particular judge was appointed. The fact that some judges are labeled "conservative" and others as "liberal" in most cases refers more to how laws are interpreted than to party bias. The conservative judges on the Supreme Court are more likely to rule in favor of corporate or business interests not so much because they are Republicans but because they favor a literalist interpretation of statutes, which are often drafted or supported by moneyed interests, or an originalist interpretation of the Constitution, which allows for little consideration of social change. Sometimes, however, a literalist approach can come in handy when dealing with the likes of Trump, who doesn't think the laws, even as written, apply to him. I fully expect a few hard slap-downs by the court, including by Gorsuch and maybe even Kavanaugh, when Trump tries to argue that some law unfavorable to him says something other than what is written in black and white and needs no interpretation.

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You wonder when he looks in the mirror exboyfil Nov 2018 #1
I have said almost that exact thing to Mrs. Lib on occasion rurallib Nov 2018 #18
Honest question: ret5hd Nov 2018 #50
He is usually the most reviled of the Chief Justices exboyfil Nov 2018 #51
Some Hope DownriverDem Nov 2018 #59
Trump's response - "Roberts is a loser" jpak Nov 2018 #2
OMG... PeeJ52 Nov 2018 #7
... Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #14
Let's see if Tiny now tries to "fire" Roberts, which, of course, he can't do. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #40
Loser? a lifetime appointment to a high paying job sdfernando Nov 2018 #55
(it was a joke) jpak Nov 2018 #56
Yeah, I got that. sdfernando Nov 2018 #61
This is a good sign. Perhaps when they are nominated to this office for life, something changes... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #3
LOL! Lucky Luciano Nov 2018 #6
Not sure, but sarcasm? nt SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #9
No way their bias disappears. Lucky Luciano Nov 2018 #11
Read about Earl Warren - a Republican, appointed by a Republican president. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #43
That was then...this is now. These guys are real ideologues. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2018 #47
Ideologues or not, Trump is managing to piss them off. That's not good for him. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #70
I agree, they don't change. demosincebirth Nov 2018 #72
You can be sure. enough Nov 2018 #13
Stevens? DrToast Nov 2018 #24
Souter? Faygo Kid Nov 2018 #48
Maybe you're right. I was perhaps expressing a very optimistic view of the court in their ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #16
They take it more seriously, I think. Of course they should be more serious jurists to begin with. Gore1FL Nov 2018 #39
Too late. Beert Kanthavenough is in the house. flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #42
some of these posts are overly cynical treestar Nov 2018 #65
It's called the weight of responsibility Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #12
This is kind of what I was thinking. However, a little skepticism is healthy. nt SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #17
I wonder if Whitaker feels that weight. He could screw Trump Bigly Pepsidog Nov 2018 #23
I'm afraid it's just that Trump was not supposed to let this out. yardwork Nov 2018 #19
Not quite...any justice can be impeached and removed. at140 Nov 2018 #27
It has never been done successfully to a Supreme Court justice. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #32
Maybe the new Congress watoos Nov 2018 #37
But it would be exactly the same situation as the possible impeachment of Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #38
Chief Justice Warren was unique. disndat Nov 2018 #49
iirc from civics classes, that was the founders' goal with the lifetime appointment 0rganism Nov 2018 #52
That's why the founders settled on life appointments marybourg Nov 2018 #54
That has happened treestar Nov 2018 #64
Surely you jest. pangaia Nov 2018 #80
Hmm... let's hope for a critical Trump tweet in response. Chakaconcarne Nov 2018 #4
"Sloppy John is a lightweight Loser, many People are Saying" Leghorn21 Nov 2018 #28
I cautiously agree wryter2000 Nov 2018 #5
Really? richdj25 Nov 2018 #8
Agreed and LittleGirl Nov 2018 #15
... and I hope PeeJ52 Nov 2018 #25
This Is The Most Egregious Example DallasNE Nov 2018 #46
Yes, a good sign. He foresees that some of them will be thought of as Trump Judges... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #10
Re: John Roberts Cheviteau Nov 2018 #21
Another thing... DrToast Nov 2018 #26
I've said many times on DU, LakeArenal Nov 2018 #36
I hope so, too. But his rulings have almost 100% of the time... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #68
Chief justice of the illegitimate SCOTUS tries and fails to legitimize it. Hassler Nov 2018 #20
My understanding is that Roberts really cares about the institution of the Court... Hekate Nov 2018 #22
Agree. See ACA repeal vote DrToast Nov 2018 #29
Yes, he clearly does care about the reputation of the court that has his name attached to it. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #33
Book it now. kairos12 Nov 2018 #30
I really doubt that will happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #34
Maybe it was a shot across the bow to Kavanaugh. JudyM Nov 2018 #45
It could be either, but I'm guessing Roberts wants to remind Trump and his minions The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #53
Justice Roberts JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #31
Of course, he left out one president caraher Nov 2018 #35
Clarence Thomas is a Tea Party judge, watoos Nov 2018 #41
I would argue though ut oh Nov 2018 #44
Very good news. elleng Nov 2018 #57
A Warning Shot macwriter Nov 2018 #58
I've always thought he might be appalled by Trump radical noodle Nov 2018 #60
I also thought that he may have been appalled by Kannaugh joining the Supremes. Marie Marie Nov 2018 #62
Perhaps he will surprise, as Justice Earl Warren did: Liberty Belle Nov 2018 #63
I'll never forgive him for Citizens United LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #66
And Stripping the voting rights act. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #73
Considering these two right wing judges Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #67
Donald Trump couldn't make a more powerful enemy. JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #69
"Asylum." I thought for a minute that meant Trump had been committed! klook Nov 2018 #71
No. BS. Roberts just trying to avoid Federalist criticism. sharedvalues Nov 2018 #74
So trump's really saying other Presidential Justice picks for the court duforsure Nov 2018 #75
A very good sign, if... bobGandolf Nov 2018 #76
I can't help but suspect that he also meant this as cautionary advice to Kavanaugh. calimary Nov 2018 #77
I'm also a retired lawyer and I also see this as a good sign. TruckFump Nov 2018 #78
Roberts is a sneaky bastard. He is doing this as a set up- pangaia Nov 2018 #79
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