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Jakes Progress

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54. But your actions will bring them back.

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:36 PM

Sep 2012

Is religion your only beef with the fifties? I was around then. My church brought me to civil rights marches. It sheltered war-protesters in the sixties. It taught me to care about others. It inculcated a concern for those less fortunate than I.

None of that is part of the plan that mitt wants for the country. The greed and selfishness of the fifties is their platform. If we decide to piss off those who see religion differently than you and let mitt lie to them about his motives, we only help bring their version of the fifties back.

I'm not looking for enemies. I don't plan on being called one just because my spiritual beliefs are different from yours. I don't care what you believe. Why do you seem so bent on what I believe? How's that for a question?

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President Barack Obama personally intervened to change party platform on God, Jerusalem [View all] Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 OP

Obama again heading in the wrong direction and lacking backbone on point Sep 2012 #1

I'm pretty sure this shows he has backbone. Renew Deal Sep 2012 #5

He lost nothing - and handed Ryan /foxNews their asses on a platter. ehrnst Sep 2012 #8

Here is why it was awesome: romney said he could not change the Rnc platform Evergreen Emerald Sep 2012 #66

Exactly, The president OWNED the DNC PLATFORM, Mittens Ran from his Heather MC Sep 2012 #101

Why should he be applauded for standing up for sectarianism? Humanist_Activist Sep 2012 #73

Political stupidity is not backbone. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #24

i heard that on the local drive radio station, kinda weird, probuably not the finest moment loli phabay Sep 2012 #70

With Florida and North Carolina Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #84

Y'know, if the South seceded, America would've been a more secular nation would it? alp227 Sep 2012 #87

God is a specific reference to the Christian god. billy_j Sep 2012 #71

This sounds like your assumption to me. kwassa Sep 2012 #82

So which god is it then? JackRiddler Sep 2012 #92

We live in a multicultural country now kwassa Sep 2012 #96

My definition of God most definitely does not apply. JackRiddler Sep 2012 #103

LOL PassingFair Sep 2012 #106

agreed /nt still_one Sep 2012 #2

Ick. Brickbat Sep 2012 #3

Agree 100% leftynyc Sep 2012 #4

but it shows the Dems actually care what their party thinks of the Platform ehrnst Sep 2012 #11

The Paulites weren't a representative group of the base, I would argue. Selatius Sep 2012 #13

That's what they are, new paint on the same elephant. Result for voting for any of them is the same. freshwest Sep 2012 #61

I don't care what the pubs do or say leftynyc Sep 2012 #16

No it does not! The voice vote was overwhelmingly to keep these changes out dmallind Sep 2012 #80

this DID NOT pass the delegates vote it was forced on them against their will as their boos azurnoir Sep 2012 #46

It is what it is leftynyc Sep 2012 #75

Unnecessary. He wasn't about to lose many votes on those that hadn't already gone to other side. leveymg Sep 2012 #6

Why lose any votes when you don't have to? Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #10

In the end, pandering loses you more than a few votes. leveymg Sep 2012 #18

Exactly. levp Sep 2012 #29

My guess is that a certain someone who left the Administration a while back to return to leveymg Sep 2012 #31

Do you really think that President Obama lost any votes due to this? Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #33

I think we lost the House in 2010 (in part) due to the heavy-handed shove given the Left base leveymg Sep 2012 #34

du is not the base. the base prefers okieinpain Sep 2012 #90

because he spit in faces of the delegates azurnoir Sep 2012 #47

Not in the real world. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #25

There'd be no booing if there hadn't been the heavy hand from above. leveymg Sep 2012 #32

So are you going to vote for Mitt now? Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #35

No, but I'm not knocking 4,000 doors this time. As for the rest, leveymg Sep 2012 #36

I'm the choir. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #51

We're on the same train, but this trip I'm not riding all the way to the end of line. leveymg Sep 2012 #52

Sometimes there isn't a next time. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #55

It's always that way, or so we're told. leveymg Sep 2012 #59

Ah to live in a blue state. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #62

The behavior you represent GIVES Republicans a chance demwing Sep 2012 #94

You just threw 500 years of Enlightenment thought in the trash, including the Social Contract, leveymg Sep 2012 #95

Your hyperbole meter just shot from 0 to 11 in no time flat! demwing Sep 2012 #97

No, my sense of self-interest is not binding on others. If you feel that our elected officials are leveymg Sep 2012 #98

"It is not my duty to reward those who's performance is...unsatisfactory" demwing Sep 2012 #100

I'm not sure it's so much about votes as about Union Scribe Sep 2012 #65

blah iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #7

The issue of Jerusalem being annexed by Israel isn't one worth losing an entire election over. Selatius Sep 2012 #9

Technically, no. This isn't "Realpolitick" Bucky Sep 2012 #20

Yeah, it's not like the US Muslim vote exceeds that of JackRiddler Sep 2012 #104

Oh 1950's we were almost rid of you. Sigh. Fearless Sep 2012 #12

Thumbs Up Bucky Sep 2012 #19

+1. Another day, another move to the right. Dawgs Sep 2012 #21

Are you sighing for a return to the 50's? Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #26

Umm actually no. I was sighing despondantly at the fact we were almost done with the 1950's Fearless Sep 2012 #41

But your actions will bring them back. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #54

Religion as a function of government. Fearless Sep 2012 #60

Just where Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #63

I would be happier if the platform, which I overall agree with Fearless Sep 2012 #68

Maybe your values and Obama's Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #83

Clearly we see differently. Fearless Sep 2012 #85

A lot of libertarian clap trap Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #99

I can't wait until the day politicians no longer have to pander to magic. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #14

However, it won't stop the GOP from screaming about the Dems. CBHagman Sep 2012 #15

Frankly I care more about how the President's reaction appears in the Middle East snappyturtle Sep 2012 #17

Dear OP Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #22

I am an atheist salib Sep 2012 #23

I don't understand why Jeruselum is even an issue in our convention Marrah_G Sep 2012 #27

You don't understand that its an important issue for a large Democratic bloc of voters? onenote Sep 2012 #38

No, I don't. It's not our country. Marrah_G Sep 2012 #39

Well, if you don't appreciate the fact that its an important issue to a major voting block onenote Sep 2012 #40

so you seem to saying that this was done to please Jews? azurnoir Sep 2012 #48

As a Jewish supporter of President Obama onenote Sep 2012 #50

yes there is a group called IvoteIsrael saying much the same as you azurnoir Sep 2012 #53

There are also many American Jews who see unilateral annexation of Jerusalem as a violation of leveymg Sep 2012 #56

I agree that there are differences within the Jewish community on the question of Jerusalem onenote Sep 2012 #57

The differences within are more significant and deeper. It's always been that way. Taking sides leveymg Sep 2012 #58

Atheists, agnostics, free thinkers and other people who choose "none" PassingFair Sep 2012 #107

Yeah, this ought to help with the Arab-American vote. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #42

Pretty sure Arabs aren't going to go red this year. Ash_F Sep 2012 #76

Muslim Americans, you mean? JackRiddler Sep 2012 #105

Israel is a third-rail topic. alp227 Sep 2012 #88

I thought the platform was the platform. How could it get changed? AngryAmish Sep 2012 #28

"The Republican noise machine, then, successfully changed the Democratic platform document... HomerRamone Sep 2012 #30

Israeli-hating atheist you say??!! and-justice-for-all Sep 2012 #37

"they all swear to uphold the Constitution" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #49

"So help me god" also a violation..nt and-justice-for-all Sep 2012 #69

This may have been politic, but I am disappointd with the pandering. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #43

Ha... Israel-hating Atheists.... that's funny. defacto7 Sep 2012 #44

Only 13% of Israelis are athiest Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #77

good call... but I think it's 37%. defacto7 Sep 2012 #81

I have to add.... defacto7 Sep 2012 #45

Too bad they didn't consult the President last week! marshall Sep 2012 #64

He's only one man and there are only so many hours in the day Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #78

So Bret Baier asks Dick Durbin about the God thing, Redford Sep 2012 #67

I'm an atheist, it's 2012 and I'm sick of ignorant bigots acting like its something to apologise for wickerwoman Sep 2012 #72

I guess, to many Democrats, Atheists aren't "Real Americans"... Humanist_Activist Sep 2012 #74

agreed.... madrchsod Sep 2012 #79

That was a tough spot for Villaraigosa madville Sep 2012 #86

You're sympathizing with the one who... JackRiddler Sep 2012 #93

This whole issue about god is pathetic and disgusting nopedontlikeitatall Sep 2012 #89

Oh oh, thank GOD! - Disgusting. JackRiddler Sep 2012 #91

stupidity and ignorance in the party platform bowens43 Sep 2012 #102